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Old 06-20-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Cam swap shopping list! am i missing anything?

like it says...im in the final moments before finishing ordering everything for my cam swap
Am i missing anything? let me know if you have any thing to add or subtract!

Cam
Patriot gold dual spring kit (springs, retainers, locks,)
Pushrods
ls6 oil pump
ls2 timing set
oem front gasket kit
coolant
oil
filter
crane valve spring tool

feels like i need more? If not then happy camming to me!
Old 06-20-2007, 10:13 PM
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Check the cam swap link in my sig.

Things that jump to mind: Brand new unused crank bolt, longer crank bolt or threated rod deal for pulley installation, and spare valve stem locks.
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something to keep the lifters from falling and something to keep the valves from dropping
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ah yes i forgot to write that on my list...longer crank bolt


pen magnets for lifters
compressed air for valves?
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i used rope in the cylinder trick to keep the valves from falling. they didnt go anywhere.
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Wooden dowels for the rods or rent the tools from 99blancoSS (that's what I did ). I used the TDC to hold the valves up, or compressed air (99blanco has the tool ). Good luck, it's time consuming but fun. Use some assembly lube/grease on the valve locks!

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whats the wooden dowel trick? I own the compressed air fitting (bought it awhile ago when i had to change a broken valvespring on old pickup), so ill just do compressed air. I've heard with that and the crane tool spring swap is pretty easy. I just need to figure out the best/safest way to do the cam without dropping a lifter. I really dont want to pull the heads. I've read like every cam swap thread/tech write up i can find, but any tips from people that have done them (preferably more than once) would be real helpful!
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I got two 5/16" wooden dowels cut to ~22" each. I took my dremel with sanding barrell and ground one side to a gradual point on each. Then I trimmed a bit off the top, picture the letter "D" rotated 90* to the right, that's what the profile of the rod looked like. Then I lubed the **** out of it and threw it in to hold up the lifters. Worked like a charm, and cost me $.72 after tax Crane tool is a Godsend, you won't be sorry for using it.

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It's technically not a "cam swap" item, but you might want to consider an upgraded fuel pump depending on how much you'll be putting down.
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thanks for advice, but im only going for a 375-400ish daily driver car. It has 60k on it and the stock fuel pump is still perfectly within factory spec pressure, and volume wise.


lastcall...do you have any pics, or could you pm some more details on the wooden dowels? I guess im not picturing it, but it sounds neat. I guess im just not seeing how only 2 dowels can hold up 16 lifters? haha
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This should help... The side view is a profile of about a total length of 1.5" The other view is looking straight on. HTH.

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Originally Posted by lastcall190
This should help... The side view is a profile of about a total length of 1.5" The other view is looking straight on. HTH.

-J

ok and did you sand the dowel into that shape (the D shape) for the entire length of the rod? And then pardon my newbiness to cam swappage, but how did you support the lifters with the two rods?
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When you take the cam retainer plate off, it's very obvious how I supported the lifters The writeup on ls1howto.com is all I used, and some helpful PMs from a few members. The dowels slide into the holes and hold the lifters up. WHERE do they support the lifter from? **** if I know, and it don't pay to ask All I know is that it works, and it's easy. I sanded that almost till the end. Don't make it too thin! The last thing you want is them breaking off in the block, then you're in a world of ****.

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Originally Posted by lastcall190
When you take the cam retainer plate off, it's very obvious how I supported the lifters The writeup on ls1howto.com is all I used, and some helpful PMs from a few members. The dowels slide into the holes and hold the lifters up. WHERE do they support the lifter from? **** if I know, and it don't pay to ask All I know is that it works, and it's easy. I sanded that almost till the end. Don't make it too thin! The last thing you want is them breaking off in the block, then you're in a world of ****.

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thanks man!
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why does it seem like the rods to hold the lifters are too long?
i shouldnt have to remove the A/c condenser should i?
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How long did you make them? Mine stuck out pretty far and I made them ~24" long. I don't see why you'd have to take off the AC compressor, but I have been wrong.

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i did a cam install without removing the condenser. you can just turn it up out of the way.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the CONDENSOR

It would help if I read... Yes I just moved mine up out of the way, but be careful how long you leave it pulled up out of the way, when you reassemble, the hard lines will take some "coercing" to get back to normal position.

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