Chevrolet Performance LSX Challenge Series and LSX Shootout - NHRA/IHRA sanctions and safety equipment?




StreetStalkerZ
06-28-2007, 05:57 PM
Some of us need to know what the safety regulations are for this event? I have looked and only came up with rule books that you have to order to see what the safety equipments are regarding your ET. Any help would be nice so we don't drive up there and get turned away for not being legal.


Navy David SS
06-28-2007, 08:19 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully an IHRA license will hold up. Safety equipment should be about the same. No NHRA track close to us to license.

David

Villain281H
06-28-2007, 08:56 PM
I'll throw the question at NMCA guys tomorrow and see what the response is.

Derek


kp
07-02-2007, 01:17 AM
Memphis is an NHRA track. Not to scare anyone off but if the NMCA is handling the tech be prepared to have everything needed for your ET and its up to date, especially if its 9.99 or quicker. They went over my car better then anyone has in a while and they know what they are looking at.

But I'm not sure if NMCA or the track tech will be handling the LSX stootout cars, either way if you have all the stuff you have nothing to worry about. Its been years since I raced at Memphis so I have no idea how their regular tech is.

Quick reference is here for what you need but best you have a real rulebook or call someone who does if you arent sure on something.

http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ETQuickRef.html

David, NHRA does not accept IHRA licenses but IHRA does accept NHRA. I'm not sure what will be in place for the LSX race so best to ask the NMCA guys on the license thing.

Navy David SS
07-02-2007, 07:34 AM
KP / Derek. Who would I ask for the license. Any phone #/e-mail? I have all the safety equipment. I'm not about to pull that far just to be told I can't run quicker than 10.

David

kp
07-02-2007, 01:05 PM
It really depends who is teching the cars. At BG the NMCA guys were teching the cars that ran in the NMCA classes and the BG tech guys were doing the bracket race cars that ran the same day.

Not sure who is doing the LSX shootout cars, I dont blame you for wanting to know.

But to cut out the guessing I would get a hold of the source:

NMRA Tech Hotline:
Hours: Tue, Wed, & Thur. from 3:00-7:00 PM EST
Contact: Mike Bruns
Phone: (714) 460-3813
Email: nmcarules@promediapub.com

Villain281H
07-02-2007, 06:12 PM
I just got off the phone with NMCA tech, and the NHRA rules will stand since it is an NHRA track.

Thus, the NHRA will not accept an IHRA license, you'll need an NHRA license and make sure your car is current to NHRA rules.

Derek

Navy David SS
07-02-2007, 10:14 PM
I just got off the phone with NMCA tech, and the NHRA rules will stand since it is an NHRA track.

Thus, the NHRA will not accept an IHRA license, you'll need an NHRA license and make sure your car is current to NHRA rules.

Derek


That sucks!!! I'm not sure I'll be able to go the nearest NHRA track (250-300 miles ea way) just to license, not to mention the physical, etc, etc. etc. Not that I don't want to go, but shit. Not that I would even be very competitive but I would like to line up against some of the big shooter, you never know.

David

kp
07-02-2007, 10:39 PM
You can do it an 1/8 mile track too for a sportsmans license, maybe there is NHRA 1/8 mile track closer to you.

DrkPhx
07-02-2007, 11:44 PM
I just got off the phone with NMCA tech, and the NHRA rules will stand since it is an NHRA track.

Thus, the NHRA will not accept an IHRA license, you'll need an NHRA license and make sure your car is current to NHRA rules.

Derek

Hold on. This is from straight from the NMCA forum about the shootout:

All vehicles MUST pass NHRA/IHRA safety inspection for ET and speed.

Someone needs to call the event coordinator for clarification. Why would they publish the statement above, only to have the track say no to IHRA qualified vehicles? Which is it?

kp
07-03-2007, 12:32 AM
Since NMCA races at both sanction tracks I'm sure thats a generic IHRA/NHRA statement. The track's sanction is what dictates the rules, NMCA or anyone else cant tell an NHRA track to accept IHRA stuff as far as I know.

I cant speak for the track or the NMCA, if it were me I would call the track or that NHRA division tech director its in and see what their policy is and double check with the NMCA guys. Its an aweful big hassle and expense to get an NHRA license to run one event if you run IHRA tracks only and have an IHRA license but rules is rules..

Villain281H
07-03-2007, 06:49 AM
Someone needs to call the event coordinator for clarification. Why would they publish the statement above, only to have the track say no to IHRA qualified vehicles? Which is it?
Read my post carefully....
I just got off the phone with NMCA tech, and the NHRA rules will stand since it is an NHRA track.
Thus, the NHRA will not accept an IHRA license, you'll need an NHRA license and make sure your car is current to NHRA rules.

Since NMCA races at both sanction tracks I'm sure thats a generic IHRA/NHRA statement. The track's sanction is what dictates the rules, NMCA or anyone else cant tell an NHRA track to accept IHRA stuff as far as I know.

KP hit the nail on the head. Since the NMCA and NMRA tours race at both IHRA and NHRA tracks, they have to have a disclaimer stating rules at either, but it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to check before heading to a track they've never raced. I'd never go to an IHRA track before checking classes and rules, and thus the reason this thread was posted. I called the NMCA tech director and got the answer posted.

Derek

GIZMO
07-03-2007, 11:59 AM
Will they require an NHRA chassis sticker too?

kp
07-03-2007, 01:41 PM
Will they require an NHRA chassis sticker too?

Honestly, even though I know you called Derek, if it were me I would be on the phone with the track and/or NMCA before I dragged my 9.99 or faster car down to an NHRA track and all I had was IHRA stuff.

I went through the extra trouble of geting the NHRA license/sticker just to avoid any of the BS since IHRA accepts both as far as I know, why NHRA doesnt reciprocate I dont know.

DrkPhx
07-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Read my post carefully....




KP hit the nail on the head. Since the NMCA and NMRA tours race at both IHRA and NHRA tracks, they have to have a disclaimer stating rules at either, but it is ultimately the racer's responsibility to check before heading to a track they've never raced. I'd never go to an IHRA track before checking classes and rules, and thus the reason this thread was posted. I called the NMCA tech director and got the answer posted.

Derek

I can read well and I understand about calling beforehand, but my point was the published statement is misleading. Anyway, it's a moot point because it's a NHRA event based on your your post.

Villain281H
07-03-2007, 09:09 PM
I can read well and I understand about calling beforehand, but my point was the published statement is misleading. Anyway, it's a moot point because it's a NHRA event based on your your post.

NHRA track = NHRA rules.
IHRA track = IHRA rules.

If your series uses both sanctioning bodies facilities, I'd think you'd want to have a disclaimer that covers both. Sorry if I came across harsh, but I'm only trying to help out here. And since I write for FSC (NMCA's magazine) I thought getting a quick answer would benefit those interested in running it.

As KP posted, the phone # is there for the tech hotline. Make sure to cover your bases before towing out!

Derek

StreetStalkerZ
07-04-2007, 07:32 AM
I got a list of rules for NHRA sanctions. To answer the license questions here is what they are saying on the print off i got.

9.99-7.50 ETs
NHRA license/credentials-All must have a NHRA 3B or 4B license.

StreetStalkerZ
07-04-2007, 07:36 AM
I'm curious to know about this as well.

10.99-10.00 ETs
Transmission,automatic-All vehicles running a automatic transmission must be equipped with a transmission shield meeting SFI 4.1 spec.

I wonder if a RCI transmission blanked would be allowed instead of the shield? Anyone know?

Somebody from the NMCA event needs to step in and stress the rules more clearly than what some of us have found.

Villain281H
07-04-2007, 11:21 AM
A shield can be covered on the 10.00 to 10.99 base with either a hard shield (CSR, TCI, B & M, etc) or a blanket (as you mentioned RCI is one). I know blankets have passed NHRA divisional events, and they are strict on those!

Derek

kp
07-04-2007, 04:56 PM
blanket will work fine down to 10.0/135. 9.99 and quicker need a SFI flexplate and flywheels shield (CSR, Ultrabell, etc) as well.

NMCA has nothing to do with the making of the safety rules, thats 100% NHRA/IHRA so the all the NMCA needs to clarify is they will be using either NHRA OR IHRA rules depending on the host track. There are copies of the NHRA general guidelines floating around the internet right out of the NHRA rulebook. Any specific safety/license/chassis cert questions would be best to contact your NHRA regional tech director. But everything is pretty black and white in the NHRA rulebook until you are faster then 8.50 then you need the SFI info for chassis specs.

If you have a fast car and you are in doubt there is plenty of info out there on what you are going to need to run an NHRA track. If you have specific LSx shootout question call the NMCA guys and ask, best way to do it and then there is no confusion..