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Old 07-30-2007, 02:14 PM
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I am thinking about going ahead and getting the texas speed and performance heads and cam package with the 5.3 liter heads stage 2.5 with the magic stick 3, I would like to get the magic stick 4, but do not want to have to flycut. What kind of power will this setup be making? i am looking to go into the 11's with a heads and cam package. I would also like to get the 111 LSA on the cam. my buddy has the trex cam and it is tuned pretty good but it bucks down low, I dont like this at all. I will be daily driving this car with this setup, so i would like the freindly setup with the car for daily driving.
My current mods are Headers, true duals, lid, filter, lca, phr, torque arm, and ram powergrip hd. I am really intrested in hearing some of your thoughts i have been thinking about this for a while now and am ready to purchase soon so help me out guys.
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Originally Posted by Trev_SS
I am thinking about going ahead and getting the texas speed and performance heads and cam package with the 5.3 liter heads stage 2.5 with the magic stick 3, I would like to get the magic stick 4, but do not want to have to flycut. What kind of power will this setup be making? i am looking to go into the 11's with a heads and cam package. I would also like to get the 111 LSA on the cam. my buddy has the trex cam and it is tuned pretty good but it bucks down low, I dont like this at all. I will be daily driving this car with this setup, so i would like the freindly setup with the car for daily driving.
My current mods are Headers, true duals, lid, filter, lca, phr, torque arm, and ram powergrip hd. I am really intrested in hearing some of your thoughts i have been thinking about this for a while now and am ready to purchase soon so help me out guys.

I have this setup, if tuned properly it makes great power and very driveable, if your buddys trex bucks then he needs a better tune
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^his car hauls *****
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How do you like that setup i will get it tuned right afterwards, So who would win that setup or a trex cam only, i will also be getting 4.10 gears
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look at my sig,its a good combo.it lacks a little in the torque department but with a big stall it really doesnt matter because it pulls really hard on top.Get the gears also.Give tsp a call when you order they can give you the best advice with exactly what you are planing for the car.
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Buddy of mine has the same setup from TX Speed, 453 rwhp on a fast 90/90 intake.
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WOW your torque numbers are really low for that setup, that makes me really worried there because i have 6-speed car and will get the 4.10 gears to help out. Altough your dragtimes are awesome, are you pulling the wheels. I guess I really should give TSP a call and talk to some of those guys. Also what LSA is your Magic Stick on I will not be running nitrous with this setup. This car will be all N/A. Any Input will be appreciated thanks alot guys. Also are you tuned too with those number, I know numbers really dont matter at all.
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HIS TQ'S ARE LOW BECAUSE THE CAR IS AN AUTO AND DYNOS DONT REALLY READ RIGHT FOR AUTO CARS..

I ALSO HAVE THIS SETUP I MADE 430RWHP THRU A UNLOCKED 4000 STALL MY TQ WAS SUPPOSDLY IN THE 350 RANGE BUT LIKE I SAID YOUR TQ #'S ARE KINDA MEANINGLESS WITH A BIG STALL

ALL IN ALL IN A M6 CAR YOUR GOOD FOR ATLEAST 450RWHP AND 400+TQ ID JUST MAKE SURE TO GET SOME 4.11 GEARS AND A GOOD TUNE

ALSO WHY NOT LOOK INTO THE EDDLEBROCK HEADS.. I HAVE THE 853 CASTINGS AND AM HAPY BUT HAD THERE BEEN EDDLEBROCK HEADS AT THE TIME I THINK I WOULDA WENT THAT ROUTE (SUPPOSLY HELPS THE MIDRANGE #'S A BIT)


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WOW your torque numbers are really low for that setup, that makes me really worried there because i have 6-speed car and will get the 4.10 gears to help out. Altough your dragtimes are awesome, are you pulling the wheels. I guess I really should give TSP a call and talk to some of those guys. Also what LSA is your Magic Stick on I will not be running nitrous with this setup. This car will be all N/A. Any Input will be appreciated thanks alot guys. Also are you tuned too with those number, I know numbers really dont matter at all.
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Personally If I Wasnt Gonna Spray Id Also Flycut And Do A Ms4 (again A Little Better) But If Your Even Thinkng About Spraying Id Stay Away From Flycutting
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what are the edelbrock heads that yall talking about i would like to know also, what if i went with a magic stick v4 with stock heads, what type of times and numbers will i put down with that cam, also would i have flycut with magic stick v4 and stock heads i have heard a 111 will fit
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Why not step up to LS6 "style" heads that are milled. They are not that much more and feature a "D" shaped exhaust port instead of the "oval" shape found on the "5.3L" and "LS1" style heads.

P.S. By the way you can make it into the 11's cam-only nowadays (with an aggressive cam, proper tuning and traction). Someone local runs a 244/248 .630"/.630" 112 LSA that clears the stock pistons with no flycutting. Here is the information:

98 SS 425 rwhp 392 rwtq with Hellion cam and stock heads , Todd's best 1/4 time NA is 11.95 @ 120.95 with street tires tuned by Mike @ New Era
P.S. The pistons would need to be modified with aftermarket milled heads with this large of a cam.
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If you really want the MS4, go with the LS6 heads that TSP has. Either the stg 1 or 2.5s. It'll be a couple of hundred dollars more but you'll have the cam you want and don't need to flycut.
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Originally Posted by 00 Freak
If you really want the MS4, go with the LS6 heads that TSP has. Either the stg 1 or 2.5s. It'll be a couple of hundred dollars more but you'll have the cam you want and don't need to flycut.
Exactly my initial thought when reading this thread.
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I've got the 5.3/MS3 combo as well. Mine put down 423 and 385 untuned with a clutch slipping it *** off. Not to mention it has a stock unported TB on it. The stock injectors were maxed out @ 108% at 6300 RPM. My cam is on a 113 and TSP recommended the 2.02/1.57 valves since I will be spraying. Just as everyone else said the cam pulls extremely hard above 4000 and doesn't stop. I've still got 3.42s in my car and I couldn't imagine what the 4.11s will be like.



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