Sponsor Sales & Specials - How bout a Thunder Cam Package GP?

its been a while!! :D

I second this, or maybe another sponsor could spark our interest.

Yeah I would be in for a TR220 or a TR224 with springs, Ti retainers and hardened pushrods!

i would possibly be interested

Up for a TR230 package with retainers

Yep sounds good. Lets get this going Angie!!!

Put me down for a TR224...

Yeah I would be in for a TR220 or a TR224 with springs, Ti retainers and hardened pushrods!



Count me in :D

It's been a while since we've done a GP so I'll put something together in the morning and post it :)

Angie

sweet

no you can't do that! I just ordered a whole cam package from yall two weeks ago!

Yeah a cam package would be great. What about those that don't need the titanium retainers or springs. I already bought those off a guy locally brand new for cheap. So all I need the 224/224 114LSA cam.... GP please!!!

LOL@Jimmy... I just ordered TWO cam packages with retainers a couple weeks ago

Ok, Here's what we can do... :cool:

Cam Pkg #1:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Comp 26918 Springs
Thunder Racing Pushrods
$569.99

Cam Pkg #2:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Comp 26918 Springs
Comp 772 Titanium Retainers
Thunder Racing Pushrods
$699.99

Cam Pkg #3:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Thunder Racing Pushrods
REV VS1116 Double Valve Springs
REV TR9814 Titanium Retainers
REV SC221 Spring Seats
Valve Stem Seals
$679.99

We are also offering:
- 10% off your choice of gasket pkg
- 10% off ARP bolts
- 10% off any camshaft installation tools (See our tools section: http://www.thunderracing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategory&subcategoryid=118 3

These 10% OFF Specials are ONLY good in combination with a Cam GP Purchase.

You can give us a call to order at 877-516-7223 (Toll-free)

There is a minimum of 10 orders required for this GP and it's good through June 12th ONLY!

Let me know if there are any questions!

Angie


UPDATE: I now have a link to order these on-line:
http://www.thunderracing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategory&subcategoryid=113 5#T1671

If you order a gasket package, ARP bolts, or cam tool, just mention that you want the 10% Discount in the comments section of the order form.

i need a 224 224 563 563 112 cam with springs and pushrods ill give ya a call monday!

I have received quite a few emails today from a some people wondering how the TR cams compare to each other and how they sound at idle. Here is a dyno graph comparing the TR230/224 111, TR227/224 114, TR224/224 114 with stock heads. All three of these cams were tested in my car and the only thing changed was the cam.

Thunder Racing cam comparison (http://members.cox.net/jason99ta/TRcam_comparison.jpg)

TR230/224 111 vs TR224/224 114 (http://members.cox.net/jason99ta/tr230_224vstr224_224.jpg)
TR230/224 111 vs TR227/224 114 (http://members.cox.net/jason99ta/tr230_224vstr227_224.jpg)


I also have a few soundclips:
TR224/224 114 through Hooker catback (http://members.cox.net/mpowerede30_2/224_114hooker_catback.mpeg)
TR224/224 114, cutout open (http://members.cox.net/mpowerede30_2/224_114cutout_open.mpeg)

TR230/224 111 through Hooker catback (http://members.cox.net/mpowerede30_2/thunder230_224_hookercatback.mpeg)
TR230/224 111, cutout open (http://members.cox.net/mpowerede30_2/thunder230_224_cutoutopen.mpg)

My exhaust consists of Grotyohann 1 3/4" longtubes, FMS 3" off-road pipe, Hooker catback.

If anyone has any questions regarding these cams, feel free to email me at jason99ta@hotmail.com or jason@thunderracing.com

I'll be out of town until Wednesday evening, so there will be a delay getting a response back.

Jason

i am going to try my very best to get in on this, but one question i do have is if i can make up my own cam..

i really like the 230/224 cam, but i would reallllly like a 228/228 on a 112.. but i hear you have a special lobe, and other stuff..

is there any way i can get my cam grind custom made? or do i have to choose from the cams listed on your site?

i am going to try my very best to get in on this, but one question i do have is if i can make up my own cam..

i really like the 230/224 cam, but i would reallllly like a 228/228 on a 112.. but i hear you have a special lobe, and other stuff..

is there any way i can get my cam grind custom made? or do i have to choose from the cams listed on your site?



Call Monday and speak with Paul on this. We can do custom grinds, but there would be an additional charge for this GP. We MAY have something on the shelf (sometimes we have cams that don't spec correctly for one particular lobe and may be closer to what you are looking for.) I'm not sure about this but Paul would know.

Thanks,

Angie

Angie, this is great, I will be placing my order soon :D. One question though, since the Comp 772 Titanium Retainers are a $100 option, shouldn't pkg #2 be just $100 more than pkg #1? Also, package #3 includes far more than #2 for less money . . . is this correct? Seems like the prices for #2 and #3 are swapped.


Ok, Here's what we can do... :cool:

Cam Pkg #1:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Comp 26918 Springs
Thunder Racing Pushrods
$569.99

Cam Pkg #2:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Comp 26918 Springs
Comp 772 Titanium Retainers
Thunder Racing Pushrods
$699.99

Cam Pkg #3:
Your Choice of Thunder Racing Camshaft
Thunder Racing Pushrods
REV VS1116 Double Valve Springs
REV TR9814 Titanium Retainers
REV SC221 Spring Seats
Valve Stem Seals
$679.99

We are also offering:
- 10% off your choice of gasket pkg
- 10% off ARP bolts
- 10% off any camshaft installation tools (See our tools section: http://www.thunderracing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategory&subcategoryid=118 3

These 10% OFF Specials are ONLY good in combination with a Cam GP Purchase.

You can give us a call to order at 877-516-7223 (Toll-free)

There is a minimum of 10 orders required for this GP and it's good through June 12th ONLY!

Let me know if there are any questions!

Angie

ok just to make sure, the comp 918s will work with my stock retainers and locks right? I should really be getting the titanium retainers at this price but the punishment from the wife will be easier to take w/o em :emb: ;)

cam pkg #1 and thunder p#111-10-LS (basic cam swap gaskets) is all I'll need to get the job done...correct?

the slips and dynos are greatly appreciated, you're really takin care of us! :hail:

count me in guys/gals

ttt

cam pkg #1 and thunder p#111-10-LS (basic cam swap gaskets) is all I'll need to get the job done...correct?




Yes, that will get the job done.

Angie

UPDATE: I now have a link to order these on-line:
http://www.thunderracing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategory&subcategoryid=113 5#T1671

If you order a gasket package, ARP bolts, or cam tool, just mention that you want the 10% Discount in the comments section of the order form.

Angie

Angie, How about an answer to the emails I've been sending you.

Hey Angie or Jason, is there a special if we only need a cam, I have a new set of heads I'm gonna put on they come complete with springs/retainers. Im gonna need to trade in my trusty 224 for its big brother 230 reverse.

ASP pulleys are a natural part of a cam swap, would it be possible to get that 10% discount on them as well, or have the pulley included with a cam package?

Regardless I'm going to go ahead with the pulley, and an oil pump with EFI Live on the side.

I'm in. :)

By the way, i'm also curious why package #2 is more then package #3???? :confused:

I'm in. :)

By the way, i'm also curious why package #2 is more then package #3???? :confused:




Thats just the way it works out. The 918 springs cost a lot more the the REV springs do.


Paul

Paul, which spring would you recomend for a TR224, the Comp 918's or the REV duals? I hear the Comps are easier to install, but which will be the most reliable and last longest?

thats what im wondering about, but i dont know if i should go with the 224 or the 230 since it will be my daily driver, what do ya'll think?

Paul, which spring would you recomend for a TR224, the Comp 918's or the REV duals? I hear the Comps are easier to install, but which will be the most reliable and last longest?



We personally recommend the Comp 918 springs, and that's the only drop-in spring that we use in the shop. Jason has them on his motor with the TR230/224 spinning to 7000rpms with out a problem, and they just made a trip to FL and back as well. I can tell you that Jason is not easy on his car either. :D


Paul

thats what im wondering about, but i dont know if i should go with the 224 or the 230 since it will be my daily driver, what do ya'll think?


IMO you would be OK driveability wise with the 230, look at the HP and torque curves and listen to the idle clips that were posted in this thread. But if you have any emissions testing at all there in Texas, I'd stay with the TR224 114.

Paul, which spring would you recomend for a TR224, the Comp 918's or the REV duals? I hear the Comps are easier to install, but which will be the most reliable and last longest?



We personally recommend the Comp 918 springs, and that's the only drop-in spring that we use in the shop. Jason has them on his motor with the TR230/224 spinning to 7000rpms with out a problem, and they just made a trip to FL and back as well. I can tell you that Jason is not easy on his car either. :D


Paul


OK thanks Paul, I'll go with the Comp 918's; maybe there is a good reason they cost more than other brands. Now if I can just decide whether to get a TR224 on a 112 or a 114 . . . do you have any input on this? I have to pass emissions here, but I'd rather have the added grunt of the 112.

Jason spins to 7000? :eek2: Does he have ARP rod bolts and forged rods?

thanks and emmisions wont be a prob, put me down for a 230 package!

OK thanks Paul, I'll go with the Comp 918's; maybe there is a good reason they cost more than other brands. Now if I can just decide whether to get a TR224 on a 112 or a 114 . . . do you have any input on this? I have to pass emissions here, but I'd rather have the added grunt of the 112.

Jason spins to 7000? :eek2: Does he have ARP rod bolts and forged rods?



If emissions are a concern then the 114lsa would be the way to go. I don't know of anyone that has passed with a 112lsa, not saying it can't be done though. :)

I'm pretty sure that Jason has ARP rod bolts but the crank, rods, and pistons are 100% stock.:eek2:

Ordered the 224/224 114 this morning. :)

Angie-
Would there be anyway to extend the GP a couple of days?? I should be able to have enough by the 14th to get a cam package. :burn:

up top

OK got my package #2 with TR224-114 on order today :D . . . I understand we still need a couple more people! :D

We have enough order for the GP to go through. All order have been processed and should ship out within the next day or 2. Any orders that come through now will be processed and shipped immediately. Thanks to everyone who has already ordered.

Placed my order today, can't wait to get it! :drive:

Paul, I have just installed a new set of heads with comp dual valvesprings and I think that I have a collapsed lifter. What would be the price of a TR230 cam and a set of Comp R lifters? Also I just installed one of your ported oil pumps and my oil pressure is 40 psi at cold idle and 20 psi at warm idle. Do you think that I tore the new o-ring or is this normal?

Ditch Digger, Paul will be out of the office tomorrow attending the Hot Rod Power Tour we are sponsoring at No Problem Raceway. He can get you a price on that first thing Wednesday.

What was your oil pressure before the swap? If it was substantially higher, I would look into a problem with the o-ring.

Jason

Paul or anybody that can answer this from Thunder, is there a special price for just a cam or do you have to get the retainers/springs etc to get the GP, Reason I ask is I am getting a set of heads with all of that stuff already on them and I am looking into getting the TR 230,
Thanks in Advance

Jason, I believe that the oil pressure before the swap was higher at warm idle, but the new pump makes more pressure at anything over 2500 rpm. Also do you think that the TR230 would make a noticeable amount of more power than my current B1. I already have TTS LT's and TEA Stg. 1.5 5.3 heads.

Mike K: The price for the cam alone would be $379.99 (normally $429.99).

Ditch Digger: You should 6-8 rwhp over your B1 going to the TR230.

Jason

Thanks Jason Im ordering it now!

i want cam package #2 but i can't figure out how to order it...i thought it said minimum of 10 orders....please help me out :bang: haha thanks

Go to the Thunder Racing website and click on "Specials and Clearance" at the bottom left of the screen. The minimum order has already been met.

What is the idle speed? Sounds way high. I had a 240 @.050 on a 110 LSA that would idle at 750 with a Carb yet! I thought our computers had a wide tuning band.
Whoops! This was in regards to the soundclip of your 224/224 114 LSA thru the hooker Catback.

The idle speed was at ~800, the stock six-speed idle setting in the PCM.

Jason

Got My TR230, 918, rods, retainers, oil pump, and EFI live, in a timely fashion. Thunder Racing has done a great job for me. Angie, your the best.
Dale

Paul or Jason, how much advance is ground into the TR224 114?
Thanks, Cal

Cal, 4 degrees advance is already ground in.

Paul or Jason,
I am interested in a cam pakage,but unsure of which one best suits my needs.The 224/224 .563/.563 112LSA is what I am thinking,does it sound like a good choice for the car described below?
1973 Camaro,2001 LS1 & T56 ,4.10 posi,3000# ,daily driver,drag racing and solo racing.I would like to keep mileage in upper 20s and obviously as much power as possible.Hoping for 11 sec 1/4 mile E.T.s.My heads are stock right now but will be ported to stage 2 standards,have LS6 intake,will have full equal length headers and 3" dual exhaust with X-pipe.
With cam mentioned above,is there any chance of valve clearance problems?Will the valve train components(springs/retainers) work with my stock heads& valves or will my spring seats need to be cut?
Thanks for any advice in advance,Joe

Paul or Jason,
I am interested in a cam pakage,but unsure of which one best suits my needs.The 224/224 .563/.563 112LSA is what I am thinking,does it sound like a good choice for the car described below?
1973 Camaro,2001 LS1 & T56 ,4.10 posi,3000# ,daily driver,drag racing and solo racing.I would like to keep mileage in upper 20s and obviously as much power as possible.Hoping for 11 sec 1/4 mile E.T.s.My heads are stock right now but will be ported to stage 2 standards,have LS6 intake,will have full equal length headers and 3" dual exhaust with X-pipe.
With cam mentioned above,is there any chance of valve clearance problems?Will the valve train components(springs/retainers) work with my stock heads& valves or will my spring seats need to be cut?
Thanks for any advice in advance,Joe




Sounds like the TR224 112lsa would be the right cam for you. It'll have good streetability, a good idle, and should easily put a 3000# stock head car into the 11s. Well that's assuming you can drive it. ;)

BTW: do you have any pics of your car and set-up? If so please e-mail them to me if you don't mind. I've got an itch to put an LS1-T56 combo in a 70-73 F-body.

Hey, ive just got the money together to do this, but i have a ? first. I was looking at either the 224/224 112 LSA, or the 230/224 111 LSA. I have hooker Long tubes, and most of the bolt ons. Its an M6 car, and money would be tight for tuning for a while. Im going to keep the heads stock for now. I do street and strip. The car is also my daily driver. So which would be better for me, and would i see any more HP out of gettin new springs??? thanx

Cal, 4 degrees advance is already ground in.


OK good, that's what I was hoping. Thanks for the quick reply, Jason. From what I've seen so far, you guys are running a top notch operation there at Thunder! :cheers:

Hehe, Look what Santa brought me. :)

http://www.fototime.com/DF909ED3422E39E/standard.jpg

Paul or Jason,
I am interested in a cam pakage,but unsure of which one best suits my needs.The 224/224 .563/.563 112LSA is what I am thinking,does it sound like a good choice for the car described below?
1973 Camaro,2001 LS1 & T56 ,4.10 posi,3000# ,daily driver,drag racing and solo racing.I would like to keep mileage in upper 20s and obviously as much power as possible.Hoping for 11 sec 1/4 mile E.T.s.My heads are stock right now but will be ported to stage 2 standards,have LS6 intake,will have full equal length headers and 3" dual exhaust with X-pipe.
With cam mentioned above,is there any chance of valve clearance problems?Will the valve train components(springs/retainers) work with my stock heads& valves or will my spring seats need to be cut?
Thanks for any advice in advance,Joe




Sounds like the TR224 112lsa would be the right cam for you. It'll have good streetability, a good idle, and should easily put a 3000# stock head car into the 11s. Well that's assuming you can drive it. ;)

BTW: do you have any pics of your car and set-up? If so please e-mail them to me if you don't mind. I've got an itch to put an LS1-T56 combo in a 70-73 F-body.


Paul,
Thanks for the advice/info.I guess I'll order a package then.I am thinking of going w/ #2 and will if you think the ti retainers are worth it.I will give you a call tomorrow.
Also,sent a pm on the 1973.
Joe

Hey, ive just got the money together to do this, but i have a ? first. I was looking at either the 224/224 112 LSA, or the 230/224 111 LSA. I have hooker Long tubes, and most of the bolt ons. Its an M6 car, and money would be tight for tuning for a while. Im going to keep the heads stock for now. I do street and strip. The car is also my daily driver. So which would be better for me, and would i see any more HP out of gettin new springs??? thanx



Always choose the smaller of the two cams if you are unsure. :D Since you will not be able to get tuning for awhile and you do drive the car everyday, I would look into the TR224/112. This is what I recommend for most guys with daily drivers.

What springs do you have on the car now? If they are stock, they must be replaced with either cam.

A big THANKS out to Paul @ Thunder for helping me out with a package.
Thank you,Joe