CaMaRo67RS355

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ok so i want over 500 RWHP in my 02 SS M6 i have all bolt ons, im getting trick flow 215's, electric street pump, ford racing #30 injectors, racetronix pump, yella terra 1.7's, ported fast intake with nw tb, but which cam would work best for my goals? ive been looking at the Vindicator & MS4.

09CPTN

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You'll probably need a big cam, but you've got 2 good choices laid out there, the t-rex could probably also get it done. Might need a bigger head too, like an AFR 225.

CaMaRo67RS355

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i looked at the trex but it wouldnt have very good streetability and from what i heard the ms4 and vindicator both respond pretty decent to the street

SuperZ

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You want 500 rwhp and you wont do a big cam because its not"streetable"? I think the Vindicator,MS4,G5X3or4,or T Rex would do great but Im sure you will need to fly cut with all of these cams.

Brad Hutchcraft

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Might as well go with whatever patrick G said in his sticky, considering you are "getting" everything else he has written on there, with the exception of the TFS heads instead of AFRs..... just get a cheap nitrous kit and be happy...

miami993c297

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Your combination will bring you certainly very close...cam choice and attention to details related!!!

My combo is far over 500rwhp and torque is enormous for a "small" 346 Ci NA LS6 engine (6 gear).

This engine is daily driven around the city...by my wife as well...not hurting the neighbours beeing too loud...and I have NO bogging/surging at low speed low load.

NO NEED TO FLYCUT in my case with the camshaft I have (smaller than the ones mentioned above), and I have still an amazing PtV Clearence for safety!!!

And for sure it is on pump gas and no EWP.

All the recipe are not the same...
Christian

TheLS1Kid

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^^ what are the cam specs?

And is that 511rwhp on a stock bottom end?

miami993c297

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Hi TheLS1Kid,

Yes, stock bottom end, pump gas and daily driven...

All the specs plus videos in my long thread below:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/648228-video-idle-plus-streetability-wot-my-511rwhp-fti.html

Good read and let me know anything you are missing
Christian

99blancoSS

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511 hp is not far over (very impressvie dont get me wrong) and that is a top end cam. Post your dyno graph and lets see where the powerband starts at 4000 rpms.

He said street friendly and 500 rwhp in the same sentence and that doesnt mix. You either want to play in the hi rpms or you don't.
The tune will make it driveable, but it will be latent power.. thats a gauranty.

TheLS1Kid

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Thanks man.

Good numbers!

VENGEANCE

big cam and PRC terminators from Texas Speed

miami993c297

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Hi 99blancoSS,

I try to inform where maybe others want to impress, at least it is what I catch from your comments, not sure...
Anyway take some minutes to go through my thread please, learn about my combo before speaking without any info...

Yes mine is a real street friendly with all the power advertised!!!

And almost 300 RWHP at 4000rpm already...

And over 500 RWHP from 5900rpm to 7000 rpm as an average power..."far over".

You asked for a graph that is technically a lot more detailed and explained in the other thread:



Christian

3.4camaro

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Go with a Trick Flow Stage III cam. If you vendor stocks the heads, chances are they will stock this cam.

It's a 228/230 .585 112 i believe. I have the cam and it performs nicely and is very driveable. TFS designed this cam to work together with the heads to make badass power.

TFS, with a stock LS1, with their heads, stage III cam, and fast 90 made 550hp at the flywheel. I think it will satisfy your goals.


Or have Patrick G spec you a cam.

carreras

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From what Ive read, the vindicator cam should make good power w/ those heads

miami993c297

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Hi CaMaRo67RS355,

I did return your PM, do you have the info you need inside???

Christian

CaMaRo67RS355

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yep i appreciate it

99blancoSS

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I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm just stating facts.

Get it straight. You power doesnt really hit until 4000 rpms correct? How was I wrong? After 4000 rpms your car screams to life. I didn't even look at your graph when I posted and I knew where the powerband was.
Some poeple dont want to rev the motor in that rpm range and that is not normal for a street setup. Just because someone nailed the tune for you and it drives smooth as glass doesnt mean its the perfect street setup for eveyone.

Impressive to say the least after 4500 rpms yes it is, but thats not considered streeetable power in most cases.
My setup should be similar with less peak hp, but I specificaly wanted to play in that rpm range.

That needs to be over stated not understated That rpm range will
take it's toll on a stock bottom end as well.


some people think that is really low for an ls1 at that rpm. Others like maybe the tuner crowd may not. A different cam will produce much more power right there and really is considered street friendly.

I just re-read my original post and it was dead on with out even seeing the dyno sheet. I've been around a while.

DONAIMIAN

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With all the work thats going into this set up I wouldnt waste my time with an of the shelf cam when a custom grind is only a few dollars more. Also, dont plan on hitting that number without spinning over 7k. I have no problem spinning a stock bottom end that high, others might.

miami993c297

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Ok guys,

Let me technically clarify the info I am providing and that can be debated by all of you that want really to take a honest clear deep look at it...

In the graph you are seeing an overlay of two curves:



The lowest curve is my engine with a 220-224 @ 116 +2 and the power down low is already a strong gain over the stock power. That was done the day the car entered the garage for the head cam swap.

The highest curve is my last combo on the same dyno the day I picked up the car, NO POWER LOSS down low, I mean from 3000rpm to 4000 rpm and some significant gain in this zone...still a lot more than the stock LS6 from GM.

The numbers of my engine from stock were at 3000rpm = 168 RWHP
------------------------------------------at 4000rpm = 244 RWHP
Which are already very good stock numbers

Which is a gain at 3000rpm of + 35 RWHP
---------------at 4000rpm of + 50 RWHP

This combo is simply making a lot more power down low from stock!!!just read it as it is on the screen...

The reasoning of someone above is meaning that the ZO6 from the GM Factory is not streetable if I was smart enough to understand it...

I just want to inform the forum members here about an amazing streetable fast combo, and I am far away of this business of selling anything related.

For the lazy that have not the opportunity to open some other threads here is a video of HOW IT IS STREETABLE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs

And here is another video lauching a top speed at 185mph:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw

Christian

hammertime

iTrader: (1)

If you want 500rwhp, Pat G's and miami's setups are the ones to look at. AS you can tell from the list of parts, it's not the cheapest setup.

Also, I bolded your 30# injectors, as it seems that is entirely to low for your HP goal, unless I'm missing something.