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Old 08-16-2007, 12:13 AM
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Is it recomended to run a Fast 90mm Intake w/ a Nick William 90mm TB on a stock internal LS1? Cause I want to see how fast I can get my car on stock internals....
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are you heads/Cam? Do it, people see great results with that setup, stock internal or not.
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I don't really know what you mean by "recommended" you money would be better spent of a cam, so in that aspect I don't recommend it, but if you are just asking are far as if it will damage the motor, it will be fine. You will see a power increase, but not much till you get a cam and heads.
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Well I want to make my car a "full" bolt on car before I do any type of cam or heads....I wanna see what the best power a full bolt on LS1 car can put down. For now I have the LS6 intake and stock TB.....
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H/C are technically bolton's lol
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I wanna do it with stock internals....
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some guy on here is running 10s on stock heads and cam, no boost, no nitrous

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Well I just wanna see what I can do with my car....
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low to mid 13's would be my guess
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13's? I'm in the 12's already.....
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is what people are saying is, yes you will gain power with a 90/90 setup but you dont have the other parts to get full advantage/gains out of it. if you havent done a cam or heads yet you can get better gains by doing them first.
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If it is for the sole purpose of staying stock internals, the TPIS Oval setup will make more horses than a FAST 90/90 (on stock internals).
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I'll look into the TPIS one...
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Moving to External
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well with a heads/cam package you are still stock internal .
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Originally Posted by SPLATT
well with a heads/cam package you are still stock internal .
If you crack the seal, its not stock internal. Maybe that arguement can be made of a DOHC motor.

What you are describing is stock short block.
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i know i was just agreeing with reject that they were bolt ons lol. it was a joke. I think a 90 may be a little much for an all stock internal motor though
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About 6-12 months back I did a ported 90 FAST for one of the members on this board who is very competitive racing in the SI class.

He picked up 12 RWHP peak but 20 RWHP past peak and was very happy about it for obvious reasons.

A 90 mm FAST is not "too much" for a stock engine....The manifold /TB combo represents an air valve (not a carb) and a less restrictive air valve lets the engine make more power. Everyone confuses this with the old school thinking of overcarbing an engine. That was a legitamate concern because too large a carb would provide poor airspeed, a crappy signal, and not atomize fuel very well (a bad combination).

You could run a 2000 CFM TB on a bone stock engine and it might not make more power than a 1000 CFM piece, but it wont hurt the power curve at all.

I'll be damned if I cant remember his name (the guy I helped)....Im fairly certain it was David and he lived in North Carolina. If I remember I will repost.

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indeed. theres your answer guy. thanks for the Correction tony! do you remember the times he ran?
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did his throttle response get alittle sloppy now that the air was so free apart from one another? you know just ilke a water valve (i'm talking SOLEY throttle response....nothing else)



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