prince_ws6

i have a 00 ws6,
in construction :
H/C package consist of:
LS6 cnc patriot heads (64 cc 2.00 and 1.57 210cc)
healthy cam bout 228/2.. 590 59. lift
LSX Fast manifold
90 mm TB
cam gear
oil pump
headers pacsetters LTs
flowmasters muf.
and a hellava major perf. TUne by HADDAD motorsports
i think thas it ..
will i make 450 or more rwhp???? help

CAMAROZ28AQUINO

cam gear? and most likely you will not hit those numbers unless you go with a more aggressive cam such as ms4 or g5x3 and the tune is dead on....youd probably see around 410-430 with that setup listed

98catfish

iTrader: (13)

only if thats going into a m6 car if its an a4 maybe 390
BTW what the hell is a cam gear?

prince_ws6

i meant cam gear with the oil pump system the whole unit ma bad... thanx.. and its a A4 fellas

prince_ws6

i also am going really agrressive with the cam that was just a ruff draft of size but i am going bigger

brad8266

iTrader: (23)

no, and if youre gonna ask stupid questions at least give us the full cam specs.

And BTW this isnt the right forum for this.

98catfish

iTrader: (13)

I think with a really perfect tune and a 64x 64x cam you should see 400 through an a4. Autos just dont dyno high but dont get hung up on dyno #'s that car w/ a 4k stall and 1.5 60's should run mid to low 7's in the 1/8th. sounds like a nice car and you should have alot of fun with it. All that matters is ET not dyno #'s.
If you go to 4 different dynos you'll get 4 different #'s.

prince_ws6

isnt it almost as good as AFRs ?

98catfish

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Did I miss something? AFR's?

Breaking Stuff

iTrader: (11)

Like the other guy said, wrong forum. But this might help.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...2&page=1&pp=20

matthewjosh

iTrader: (7)

get the ms4 i love it!!!! I don't know my numbers but I'm cam only and have beat 2 head and cam ls1's. One of those I know ran a 7.45 at the track I had him by a car or so in the 1/8th on the street, and pulled a total of 2.5 cars in the 1/4. Both of us are autos

98catfish

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I get it now. I'm no expert but i cant see how afr's can make more hp up top my tsp 2.5 5.3's flow the same. maybe a little down lower but thats not going to help w/ max rwhp. w/ all else being equal ie. chamber size.

matthewjosh

iTrader: (7)

I wouldn't worry about hp dyno numbers anyway!!! Just worry about the digits that flash on the board when you cross the finish line!!!

99z28monster

iTrader: (3)

No you might see 400. A bigger cam does not always mean more power. From what I have read it seems you dont really have any idea on how to match the cam to the heads or any of the parts to work together. Good luck though

Asmodeus

Honestly you could not be more wrong on this. Mid-lift flow is what is going to determine your RWHP. AFR's also have a smaller CC runner with a smaller cross section than the 5.3's so air velocity will be higher. AFR's will bolt on a solid 25rwhp+ over your tsp 2.5's. OK, they flow the same at .600, so? How long does your valve stay open at .600 lift? ok, now how long is that valve open from .300 to .500? You're missing a LOT of cylinder fill with heads flowing less in those lift ranges. It's also coming in slower with the hogged out runners.. losing even more fill. Not to mention flow over 300 is in a sense.. lopped off by the intake manifold, negating that flow too.

Here.. read this.. you will learn a lot if you understand it.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....08&postcount=1

Max flow numbers at and above .600.. in 90%+ of LS1 applications, are meaningless. And then when you understand the flow characteristics of the head, you can (or can pay someone) select the proper valve events to maximize the head flow into the cylinder, and out of it.. and that's how you determine what the correct cam is (kind of over simplified since compression, header selection, valve size, even rod length, etc are taken into consideration).