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84z28Camaro
08-23-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm thinking of building up my camaro's l69 but i'm not really sure what good cam/heads or really anything else for it would be. I could definitly use some advice.


moge11
08-23-2007, 09:41 PM
Well since you said nothing about a 350ci, I wont say it,"Just get a 350ci and build it".

Ported Stock heads would be pretty good if your capable of doing it. Or a set of vortecs shaved down to 55cc would be GREAT along with a matching edelbrock PERFORMER so you can reuse your existing carb. If changing the carb, which you DONT need to do, step up to the Performer RPM or RPM Air-Gap intake. The intake MUST BE VORTEC SPECIFIC. A Comp Xtreme Energy XE268 cam, 224/230 @.050" .477/.480" lift will work great with the heads and either of the intakes I listed. Have the block bored .030", "0" decked (so the piston are Flush with the deck surface), and buy a good set, such as Keith Black Silvolite's, Hypereutectic FLAT-TOP pistons. This motor, if built properly would be on the verge of 350-375HP. You could end up with 265-285rwhp through a T5 transmission.
Good luck.

LATER,
Morgan

84z28Camaro
08-23-2007, 10:41 PM
I personally want to do a 383 or bigger, but my budget isn't the largest so a new block would be kind of a pricey addition.


ZONES89RS
08-23-2007, 11:36 PM
A new or used new to you block??? Hell, 350s are everywhere, dime a doezen when you look in the right place.

moge11
08-24-2007, 12:37 AM
Really, you need to do a compression check, and/or a leakdown test. Make sure it doesn't use oil. If it don't, just get the vortec heads, have them milled, stuff the xe268 cam in there, and top it with the PERFORMER Vortec intake and your stock carb.
Then later on, you will have a kickass top-end for a 355ci or 383ci motor when funds permit.

84z28Camaro
08-24-2007, 09:38 AM
Hmm, ya I was tol that most of the parts would work on a 350 block so figured if I did that first it would give me more power then when I had the money I could get a decent block.

ZONES89RS
08-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Man, i went down that road, honestly, build a little BS 350 then swap it out, it will be worth your time.

84z28Camaro
08-24-2007, 12:39 PM
What are some decent 350 blocks?

84z28Camaro
08-24-2007, 12:41 PM
would these heads be better than stock l69? http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/371307643.html

moge11
08-24-2007, 01:43 PM
those heads are "083" castings. One is off the crate motor 285hp and/or 300hp, they are the heads with the 90* center holes. These are the one you want. You will still have to have them milled down to keep your compression up. Don't pay much for them...NO MORE than $100-$150 shipped. I have a set like them that I bought slightly ported, They ran 8.5's @84mph in the 1/8 on 360ci 9.8:1 Performer RPM intake, .454" 218 duration cam, in a 85 firebird.

84z28Camaro
08-24-2007, 11:22 PM
hmm maybe I should jsut find a decent crate engine. http://motorworksengines.com/350.php seems to have some decent motors.

ZONES89RS
08-25-2007, 01:05 AM
The GMPP crate motors are nice, you can get the 260HP small block chevy for like 1600$ and swap in a bigger cam and make off like a bandit.

84z28Camaro
08-25-2007, 07:05 AM
Hmm I'll have to look into that. It's a shame I don't have like 12k to spend on a motor to get a custom stroker lol, still these would be nice to start with and work up as money comes in.

moge11
08-25-2007, 11:27 AM
you could also find a used Vortec motor for about $500-$600 bucks at a junk yard, Replace the rod bearings, since this is what tends to fail on these motors, stick a Comp XR282hr and some Comp 918 Beehive springs and retainers on the heads. BAM, you have an $1100 435hp 350ci that'll run mid 12's on STREET tires.

Dont worry about a Vortec having worn cylinders either. I have a 140,000 mile vortec with hone marks still in the cylinders, NO ridge. Looks like new. After personally seeing it, I did some research, and learned that even 300,000 milers in work vans come out like this only to have spun a rod bearing.
Just trying to get you the most power for your dollar.
Good luck,

LATER,

Morgan

whytryz28
08-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Just get a junkyard 350 and build from that, the L69s are crap. They cant be bored or stroked out to much because the small crank journal size and piston walls.

moge11
08-25-2007, 09:46 PM
Just get a junkyard 350 and build from that, the L69s are crap. They cant be bored or stroked out to much because the small crank journal size and piston walls.

It's strictly the small bore. Crank is the exact same as a 350ci.
4.00x3.48=350ci, 3.736x3.48=305ci.
Both with 2.45" mains and 2.10" rod journals.