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Old 08-23-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Car wont fire, any suggestions???

Allright, i thought it might be bad fuel, i ran it all out and added 5 gallons of fresh 93 octane. It still wont fire, i have no coolant in the motor, i wanted to make sure i didnt put it all together and this happen.

1) It is getting fire

2) It has fuel(new pump and filter)

I tested the fire and it is good, i tested the injector pulse and it stays on with a tiny drop in a pulse, is this supposed to happen??? I thought it should get a pulse, not stay hot then drop a bit.

I am stumped, i have all the electrical hooked up, thanks for any help guys, if i didnt just drop so much into a valve job, port and polish, gaskets and new head bolts i would abandone all hope and put a gen 1 in the damn thing with a carb and be done with it.
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Also, i removed everything to replace the head gaskets, i am positive i put everything back, i even pulled the opti apart and cleaned it, the bolts were falling out of it, i re assembled it but i did crack the rotor with the bolts but i didnt think it would matter.
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Wish more peole were up this late...
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Are you sure that your coolant temp sensor in your water pump is plugged in? Having that unplugged will keep the car from starting. You said you did not have coolant in the engine. Is the water pump on the engine, because it is easy to forget about that sensor if the pump is not there. Then there is the standard problem of getting the opti seated wrong. It is possible to do and you will have spark but it will be way out of time.
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Ok, well i did not have the coolant temp sensor in before, but i plugged it in earlier and still nothing, the WP is on the car, if the OPTI was not seated right then it would still pop out the intake/exhaust still right? I thought the 95 couldnt be installed wrong on the opti?
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Yes and Yes it can as I have done it before (mine is a '95 set up).

When you put the opti back on and were putting the bolts in was the mounting bracket flush up against the boss on the timing cover or was there a little gap that you had to use the bolts to close? The opti should it sit flush up against the bosses if installed right.
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Man, i installed it and it went right on, i pulled it off to see if it was dead on and it looked like it, so i eyed it and put it back, it did sit flush and didnt seem wrong at all.
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Well, i tried it again and nothing, i checked the opti and it sat back in flush again, i triple checked it, right when i let off the key cranking it it will sputter a bit here and there.
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Allright, i found the ground on the head was broken, i fixes it and now while trying to start it it sputters here and there but nothing consistant, anyone got any other suggestions?
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try starting fluid while your cranking to see if that does anything.
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What is your fuel pressure setting at? Is it staying constant?
If it sputters now, it should be getting spark, right? Or is the spark intermittent now?
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Originally Posted by krayzie7th
try starting fluid while your cranking to see if that does anything.
agreed . while someone is turning it over spray the starting fluid in.
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Allright, ill get some and see what happens, sometimes it wants so sputter right when i let off the key from cranking it.
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sounds like a fuel issue even more , after you said that. could be no signal from the opti, ect sensor, poor fuel pressure ect..ect. don't feel bad mine is up and running with some weird tuning issues.
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I Changed My Opti Yesterday Not Only Did I Have To Fill Up The Car With Water I Had To Put The Cai Back And Everything Else And It Started Up Like Nutin And Be4 I Did All That I Was Man Y Wont It Start..
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Well, when i bought the car the opti was not getting a signal, but when it was i still fired it over for a second without and radiator installed.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
but i did crack the rotor with the bolts but i didnt think it would matter.
This could be your problem, pull the cap back off and check it. Or maybe you installed it wrong throwing the timing off.
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Hell, i dont think you can isntall them wrong. The rotor will only go on one way.
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Also, i sprayed starting fluid in it and it did nothing. Still didnt try to fire.
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Default Could thoses little screws?

what about those screws man think that throwing the timing off



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