TR 230/224 people come in!!!!!
08-30-2007, 12:26 PM
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TR 230/224 people come in!!!!! So I have decided on this cam- TR 230/224 ,575/.563 111lsa..... and will be purchasing it with the cam install kit
which includes.
- Dual Patriot Gold Valvesprings and Ti Retainers
- Thunder Racing Pushrods (7.400)
- Valve Stem Seals
they have a few options for the dual valvesprings
dual patriot valve springs
dual patriot extreme valve springs +$20
here are my questions
1.what would be the difference between these 2 springs? they also have the comp cams 26921 double springs which are very expensive and a bit of overkill for my set up since im going to be cam only with stock heads.
2.And I was suggested 7.425 pushrod length by Pat G probably to quiet down the valvetrain....Most people go with 7.4 , and im a little worried there might be stress to the lifter plunger going with 7.425.
3.My car is an m6 with stock gears and 61,000 miles would i need to do a gear and timing chain swap?
Ive seen alot of members on here use this cam for a Daily driver so with a good tune i shouldnt worry about its streetability....and comments and suggestions are much appreciated.
which includes.
- Dual Patriot Gold Valvesprings and Ti Retainers
- Thunder Racing Pushrods (7.400)
- Valve Stem Seals
they have a few options for the dual valvesprings
dual patriot valve springs
dual patriot extreme valve springs +$20
here are my questions
1.what would be the difference between these 2 springs? they also have the comp cams 26921 double springs which are very expensive and a bit of overkill for my set up since im going to be cam only with stock heads.
2.And I was suggested 7.425 pushrod length by Pat G probably to quiet down the valvetrain....Most people go with 7.4 , and im a little worried there might be stress to the lifter plunger going with 7.425.
3.My car is an m6 with stock gears and 61,000 miles would i need to do a gear and timing chain swap?
Ive seen alot of members on here use this cam for a Daily driver so with a good tune i shouldnt worry about its streetability....and comments and suggestions are much appreciated.
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its a baby cam! 
and since the lift is under 600 i wouldnt think u would need the dual springs..let alone the extreme ones. either way it wont hurt. (to my knowledge) i would go ahead and change the chain, and oil pump..myswell..u will need to take them off anyways..they arnt power adders. but they are good insurence. if your going to do it. do it rite! and i would listen to Patrick G. he knows wut the *** he is talkin bout! when i build my new motor ima have him design me a custom grind cam.
either way ima smoke u! LOL
and since the lift is under 600 i wouldnt think u would need the dual springs..let alone the extreme ones. either way it wont hurt. (to my knowledge) i would go ahead and change the chain, and oil pump..myswell..u will need to take them off anyways..they arnt power adders. but they are good insurence. if your going to do it. do it rite! and i would listen to Patrick G. he knows wut the *** he is talkin bout! when i build my new motor ima have him design me a custom grind cam.
either way ima smoke u! LOL
08-30-2007, 12:55 PM
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I had the TR230/224 in my car before the MS4 and it rocks. To me it's the best street cam made. Good bottom end and pulls to 6500 with very good street manners. Plus it sounds mean as hell. Go with the regular patriot springs not the extreme, and I'd listen to patrickg for the pushrod length.
08-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
its a baby cam!
and since the lift is under 600 i wouldnt think u would need the dual springs..let alone the extreme ones. either way it wont hurt. (to my knowledge) i would go ahead and change the chain, and oil pump..myswell..u will need to take them off anyways..they arnt power adders. but they are good insurence. if your going to do it. do it rite! and i would listen to Patrick G. he knows wut the *** he is talkin bout! when i build my new motor ima have him design me a custom grind cam.
either way ima smoke u! LOL
and since the lift is under 600 i wouldnt think u would need the dual springs..let alone the extreme ones. either way it wont hurt. (to my knowledge) i would go ahead and change the chain, and oil pump..myswell..u will need to take them off anyways..they arnt power adders. but they are good insurence. if your going to do it. do it rite! and i would listen to Patrick G. he knows wut the *** he is talkin bout! when i build my new motor ima have him design me a custom grind cam.
either way ima smoke u! LOL
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and your point is?
not all cars make the same power!!
plus im sure that dyno graph is prolly with an m6 car and ls6 intake.. i have neither
ill pass those numbers with an intake alone..
my cam is gunna love the spray, and i am gunna spray. plus street manners is all in the tune..my tune is fuked up witch is why it shuts off. i never had the problem in texas. plus if u want to spray u mite want to think of a longer lsa
not all cars make the same power!!
plus im sure that dyno graph is prolly with an m6 car and ls6 intake.. i have neither
ill pass those numbers with an intake alone..
Originally Posted by GMmexican
Thanks I would go bigger but i want power under the curve and street manners.......plus i might spray
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08-30-2007, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
i think like a smooth bellow, and p/p throttle body! rite?
08-30-2007, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
and your point is?
plus im sure that dyno graph is prolly with an m6 car and ls6 intake.. i have neither
plus im sure that dyno graph is prolly with an m6 car and ls6 intake.. i have neither
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
yeah lid and a flow crap cat back......Im getting long tubes and a better cat back before I get the cam in.
08-30-2007, 03:54 PM
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A cam like that is designed for a great exhaust system and an average intake system. Also with it being a reverse split, it will not like the spray as much as a traditional split would. If you are planning on spraying under 200 I would not worry about that though. I see you are in Cali. I would go with a standard split because you still have your cats. JMO..
Either way, have fun with it.
Either way, have fun with it.
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
i wouldnt keep going off other peoples numbers, or you mite be really disapointed wen u finnaly dyno your car. also maybe even with the way it drives
id talk to patrick G some more and have him help you pick a cam.
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
i wouldnt keep going off other peoples numbers, or you mite be really disapointed wen u finnaly dyno your car. also maybe even with the way it drives
id talk to patrick G some more and have him help you pick a cam.
id talk to patrick G some more and have him help you pick a cam.
Its all in the tune!
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
i wouldnt keep going off other peoples numbers, or you mite be really disapointed wen u finnaly dyno your car. also maybe even with the way it drives
id talk to patrick G some more and have him help you pick a cam.
id talk to patrick G some more and have him help you pick a cam.
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
^^^thanks, how does your car sound? do you drive it alot?
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/c89ee...9b01060c9e.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/3cdd8...9b01070791.htm
Video clip of it idling:
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/tr23...bbe6b04249.htm
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Originally Posted by gillbot
Video of it at the track:
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/c89ee...9b01060c9e.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/3cdd8...9b01070791.htm
Video clip of it idling:
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/tr23...bbe6b04249.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/c89ee...9b01060c9e.htm
http://video.ls1tech.com/video/3cdd8...9b01070791.htm
Video clip of it idling:
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/tr23...bbe6b04249.htm