View Full Version : Dynotune dry kit on the way. Write up soon to follow!


mattl31
09-04-2007, 06:07 PM
Hey everyone. I just ordered my Dynotune Dry Kit, upgraded black high-output bottle warmer, full-auto warmer upgrade, 860 tire well mount, bottle mount pressure gauge, fuel pressure safety switch, nitrous filter, and dual purge kit. I must say that Dean at Dynotune did an EXCELLENT job at answering my questions and making me feel confident about my purchase. I didnt get to speak with Dean on the phone, but I did get to speak with Dan, who was also very helpful. This thread is going to double as somewhat of a write up, and also as a place for me to ask some questions as I install. However, as of now I'd like some opinions and suggestions for purge locations.

Options so far are:

Nostrils (WS6)
Cowl (By windshield)
Side Vents
Vent Area Below driving lights

I'm open to any suggestions!

Beer99C5
09-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Great choice! Dean sold me my first dry kit.

Most questions are usually how to hook up the window switch, purge, and where to put the switches. Be sure to cover those items in your write up :cheers:

03_r6
09-06-2007, 12:37 PM
i vote side vents imho

Hennytime
09-06-2007, 12:51 PM
hod vents, the wireing isnt too bad, just getting it all through the firewall and making it neat sucks

mattl31
09-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Unfortunately I wont be doing a window switch, or at least for now. Since my car is an automatic for now I plan on engaging the system manually after 3000 RPM. However, I'll be happy to be as detailed as possible on all the other things this will probably a slow thread to follow but ill try to make updates as often as possible since im juggling college and this at the same time. so far all i have done is the switch panel, which will be in the ash tray. of course the purge switch will be added as soon as it arrives in the mail. but for now heres a pic of the switch panel.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/DSC_0050.jpg

bad6as
09-10-2007, 05:34 PM
well?

mattl31
09-10-2007, 11:29 PM
well?
ha you're telling me. still in shipping. you guys will be the first to know when it arrives. other than me of course :cool:

mattl31
09-11-2007, 05:02 PM
well the 860 bottle mount came in from nitro daves today. still waiting for the dynotune stuff to show up it should be any day now! heres some teaser pics.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/DSC_0060.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/DSC_0055.jpg

mattl31
09-11-2007, 09:42 PM
oh and while im thinking about it guys...i dont have an opener right now but im going to wire for one so i dont have to tear the car apart again. what gauge of wires should i use, and where do i route them? (battery switch etc.) thanks!

Strahley
09-12-2007, 05:39 PM
I put my purge to shoot up at an angle along the two A pillars. I vote for that :)

mattl31
09-13-2007, 11:36 PM
Well guys the kit came in this afternoon. So far im super impressed. Install starts Saturday morning.

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RedRallyeZ
09-14-2007, 10:27 AM
thread subscribed to, im in the same boat

mattl31
09-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Well I got the Bottle in guys. So far the install has been super easy!

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mcamarols1
09-15-2007, 12:58 PM
how much did it run u?

Strahley
09-16-2007, 02:12 AM
Looks a lot like the kit they sent me, probably shipped ours on the same day :) They make a great product!

mattl31
09-16-2007, 11:09 AM
I have about 650 in the kit and 50 in the mount. However, dynotunes prices have changed a bit. Dont let that discourage you though, they still have great products for an affordable cost as well as great customer service.

mattl31
09-18-2007, 07:15 PM
:cool: hey guys i need your help. everything is on and functional but i cant get the nitrous solenoid to pop. we've traced it down to the groud on the relay, which is interupted by the Fuel Pressure Safety Switch. when we bybassed that ground it worked just fine. im thinking either the switch is set wrong (comes at 35 psi i believe) or that maybe i put it on wrong. when i bought the kit from dynotune i opted for a fitting that adapts to the end of the ls1 fuel rail where the schrader valve is. im thinking maybe you have to remove to scrader valve? someone help! THEN you can see pics of it finished

860 Performance
09-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Sounds like you didn't unscrew the center of the schrader.

mattl31
09-18-2007, 09:08 PM
haha im an idiot. coming from the same person who has worked on cars since he was 10 :eyes: . thanks all. can you remove the schrader just like a schrader in a valve stem?

mcamarols1
09-19-2007, 10:09 AM
r u still planning on doing the write up? if so that would help me and alot of us out, thanx

mattl31
09-19-2007, 11:24 AM
I'll do my best to make the write up detailed, however it will vary a lot from kit to kit based on what components you select. But I'll try my best for you guys. Is there any area you guys would like me to focus on?

Ping King
09-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately I wont be doing a window switch, or at least for now. Since my car is an automatic for now I plan on engaging the system manually after 3000 RPM. However, I'll be happy to be as detailed as possible on all the other things this will probably a slow thread to follow but ill try to make updates as often as possible since im juggling college and this at the same time. so far all i have done is the switch panel, which will be in the ash tray. of course the purge switch will be added as soon as it arrives in the mail. but for now heres a pic of the switch panel.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/DSC_0050.jpg

watch spraying through shifts...you may be rebuilding that automatic soon.

mattl31
09-19-2007, 11:22 PM
i wont be spraying through shifts....just doing some fancy switch work :drive:
oh and also....the fpss comes set at 35 psi. should i leave it there or up it a bit?

mattl31
09-21-2007, 04:17 PM
TTT about the fuel pressure safety switch. anyone know where to set it at? i have a fuel pressure gauge and everything. ive been told stock ls1 runs 45-60 psi

GIVE EM' THE BIRD
09-22-2007, 01:50 AM
please finish this write-up when your done!

Strahley
09-23-2007, 03:44 AM
I used an exacto-knife to remove the shrader valve. Came out in just a few seconds. Used the exacto-knife like a screwdriver

As for the FPSS, I'd leave it at 35 psi. The idea of it is to kill the system if the pressure drops that low, and if it drops below 35 psi then the fuel pump probably died and isn't going to kick back on. If you have it set at say, 45-50 psi, the fuel pump may just have a little hiccup and briefly cut the solenoids out, but back on again. If it did this several times in quick succession, you can probably see the damage it could cause. I'd rather not beat my solenoids by having them trigger on/off multiple times on the same run :)

mattl31
09-23-2007, 12:08 PM
im not as worried about the pump dying as i am worried about running out of fuel. i should have plenty of fuel pump and injectors for a stock car and a 125 shot shouldnt I? what does everyone think?

quickblade
09-23-2007, 12:41 PM
Focus on your blow down tube... Where did you mount that bad boy. Or actually if you can, lets see a picture of it. Unless its not in yet....

And you said you are installing dry kit.. dont forget to remove the MAF screen. :cheers:

mattl31
09-23-2007, 02:50 PM
i'll probably get flamed for this but i'm not doing a blowdown tube....yet. the bottle will be used track only so i hadnt really thought about it just yet especially with the winter months coming up, the car wont be out much. I've been told you dont have to descreen the MAF? still wondering about the FPSS for anyone who has some insight.

uncle ray
09-24-2007, 02:28 AM
yes just go and get the little a/c valve kit at a parts store and keep the tool. i payed something like $5!!!

mattl31
09-24-2007, 12:16 PM
got the valve removed and everything is now functional. taking pics today. still wondering about the FPSS though!

Todd157k
09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
Set the fpss at 35 (ish) lbs. You can use an air compressor and a DVM to calibrate it.
What size injectors are you running? Any way of watching DC or AFR?
If not, start with a small shot (50 max) and watch your fuel pressure and plugs. I'm assuming you know how to read plugs since you're not a new mechanic.
Also, what's this "tricky" switch set up you're thinking of to not spray through shifts???? :confused:

mattl31
09-24-2007, 02:19 PM
oh no no the switch is just an arming switch...im just going to kill it through shifts. i dont have traction in first anyway so it'll just be 2nd and 3rd that ill be using it until i spring for slicks. im sorry but what do you mean by DC? i'll only be doing the 50 shot until I get my dynotune wideband where ill run a 100 hit. and yes i'll be keeping an eye on those plugs. got some TR6's yesterday. those should be fun to install :)

Cantalope Kid
09-24-2007, 03:20 PM
oh no no the switch is just an arming switch...im just going to kill it through shifts. i dont have traction in first anyway so it'll just be 2nd and 3rd that ill be using it until i spring for slicks. im sorry but what do you mean by DC? i'll only be doing the 50 shot until I get my dynotune wideband where ill run a 100 hit. and yes i'll be keeping an eye on those plugs. got some TR6's yesterday. those should be fun to install :)

I thought you could use the nitrous through the shifts in an A4? How else does a WOT Switch work in conjuction with a window switch? It comes on and stays on while in correct rpm with throttle wide open. If it was so bad to spray through shift why are kits sold with WOT switches?

I realize in your case you are going to use an on/off button instead of a WOT switch but how do you plan to time the on/off with the precision shift of an A4?

I say stay away from manual activation and go with a WOT switch. They are only $12.xx for goodness sakes. What happens when you have an emergency with your hand on the on/off switch? Your instinct is to drop it to grab the wheel. Opps is the last thing your car is gonna be saying when you missed unarming the nitrous system as the rpms drop rapidly. A WOT Switch is an easy solution. You have an emergency you instinctivly take your foot of the gas to hit the brakes, N20 turns off automatically. They are included in kits for a reason. WOT Switch= 1 more safety measure.

TwistedSS
09-24-2007, 03:45 PM
Some people don't spray through the shifts because its hard on an old transmission. Never had any problems with that in my old automatic car and my friends T/A that went 11.70 on drag radials...with stock exhaust and a 125 dry shot.

mattl31
09-24-2007, 07:51 PM
Cantalope Kid- I AM using a WOT switch...look in the pictures. ill have the pedal to the floor when im running down the track and IF i decided not to spray through the shift ill kill it via the arming switch, and turn it back on after the shift. no, probably not the most precise way to do it but i'd rather spend the money on a wideband to monitor the A/F than drop money on a window switch. sorry, i was kindof unclear in my posts.

Twisted SS- yeah i figured that a few passes spraying through the shifts shouldnt kill my tranny at 48XXX miles. so I'm leaving the FPSS at 35 psi everyone!?

Todd157k
09-25-2007, 12:21 AM
DC= Duty Cycle. It's a log of how much the injectors are working to keep up (or try to). VERY important when running a dry kit.

Window switches aren't all that expensive. Specially when compared to the price of a motor or tranny. GET ONE. If you can't afford it right now, WAITto install, THEN BUY ONE. Things happen way too quickly for you to turn it on/off/on at the right times. Now, having said that, I sprayed through the shifts all the way up to 100 shot. At 100, I put the ws in. I figured it wouldn't be any different that heads/cam/headers and running that extra hp through the shifts. I also had adjusted my shifts for harder shifting which would be easier on the trans but harder on the rest of the drivetrain.

mattl31
09-25-2007, 10:53 AM
so pretty much you're saying im better off (safer) to just spray through the shifts?

quickblade
09-25-2007, 11:12 AM
Yes Please tell us of the sparying thru the shifts. I have automatic 02 z28, 50,000 miles on the car. garaged, etc. my dry kit should be here today, hopefully, maybe tomorrow, but I wanna here about the hitting thru shifts..

can it safely be done, or are you taking a chance on the tranny???

Todd157k
09-25-2007, 12:12 PM
Can it be done.. yes.
Is it safe to do so... not really
Will it harm it.. eventually

Small shots aren't an "instant killer" however I wouldn't make a practice of it if you don't have to.

XLR8N
09-25-2007, 12:57 PM
if your worried about spraying threw shifts, then fab a momentary switch on the shifter. momentery off, something like an interupt kill switch. your hand is on the shifter while racing right? then keep it there. wire it into the wot switch so that it cuts out when you press it.

brody

Cantalope Kid
09-25-2007, 01:11 PM
Turning on/off the arming switch between shifts? Thats new to me. At your power level I wouldn't worry about it until atleast 100 shot use. The A4 can handle it. Its not like people with cam/heads let out in between shifts. Either way good luck. Post up your videos of the run. Keep us informed on the install.

mattl31
09-25-2007, 02:57 PM
Well heres some intall pics. All i have left now is the line to the lid, which i had to order a longer length of hose from Harris Speed Works. Anyway...

Sheetmetal switch panel I made. I had planned on putting the switches in the ashtray but with the 14 gauge wire things got crowded quickly and interfered with the gear lockout mechanism. I didnt want to try to shift into neutral and go all the way to reverse or park when im trying to impress the ladies :cool: so i decided to fab up this little guy. switches are arm, heater, purge, and the other is just an unused switch i had laying around.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/100_1291.jpg

In this picture you can see (closest to the fender) the main feed line that i covered in black wire loom. the wires from the relay to the nitrous and purge solenoids are also inside the same wire loom.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/100_1292.jpg

I chose to mount the relay here. Probably not the stealthiest but a relay can mean a lot of things. At least it will be easy to get to.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/100_1293.jpg

I chose to mount the solenoids in a cool, out of sight place. This is a fair weather only car, so the elements wont affect the solenoids in this location. I am, however fabricating a sheetmetal box that will attach with the solenoids to protect them and make this less noticable. the grounds will also be relocated.
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Here you can see the fuel pressure safety switch. it obviously stands out with the anodized blue fitting. i will be painting this flat black.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/mmlever31/100_1294.jpg

Well thats about it so far guys. the relay for the heater is in the passengers kickpanel, but i didnt get pics of that. i'll have pics of the nozzle setup as soon as my black line from HSW comes in!

XLR8N
09-25-2007, 03:13 PM
do you have your purge lines ran yet? if so where do they exit? other than that it looks good!

brody

mattl31
09-25-2007, 03:59 PM
no purge lines yet. the simplicity of dumping it right off the solenoid is tempting but i gotta put on a good show :cool: working on a way to hold them in place in the side vents....anyone have any ideas?

Todd157k
09-25-2007, 05:17 PM
gawd I hope your wiring is correct. Tracing wires that are all the same color is a flippin nightmare. (I'm going to save my "I told you so" until later in this thread) :nod:

mattl31
09-25-2007, 06:06 PM
haha you can give me your "I told you so" right now....it HAS been hell! everythings A-O-K and working right now soooo, until i decide to expand the system im golden! :burn:

XLR8N
09-26-2007, 02:25 AM
i just noticed this...why did you open the box in the bathroom? i have my suspicions why, cause i have done it before as well. hahaha.

brody

mattl31
09-26-2007, 12:45 PM
HAHA! good eyes man. im in college and staying in the dorms so that was about the only flat place to take a picture :D however some of the smaller automotive packages i have receive have been opened while i sat atop the throne. instruction manuals make good literature for the pot :secret:

mattl31
09-26-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh and Todd157K....you can REALLY say "i told you so now". I was having a problem with my purge solenoid last night and started tearing into the wires. next thing i know i have loose ends everywhere and i didnt know wtf what was......I TORE ALL THE WIRING OUT AND DID IT COLOR COORDINATED!!!! YAY for common sense. I should have done it this way in the first place. :jest:

mattl31
10-07-2007, 08:24 PM
Heres the last of the pics guys. AEM UEGO wideband is supposed to be here tomorrow and i'll be welding the bung in tuesday, spraying wednesday! check out my sweet fuel rail covers too :D they arent flashy but i wanted something that looked stock. give me feedback!

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mattl31
10-07-2007, 08:26 PM
jesus those are huge. i always forget to resize but i hope it was worth it all you 56k'ers :devil:

mattl31
10-08-2007, 02:39 PM
hey can one of the moderators change the title of this thread? now that its installed "soon to come" is a lie :D

mattl31
10-11-2007, 02:14 PM
well this thread died. any input anyone? updates as of now are just that

A. the company i ordered my UEGO wideband from is slow as balls
B. purge lines got routed to the side vents. got hella lucky here, and ill try to explain it. us T/A guys have the sidevents in the fenders right? well it turns out that the holes in these vents are EXACTLY the diameter of the purge tube that dynotune (and im assuming others) send out with their kits. well being that they were the same size the tube wouldnt really stay in there (especially with nitrous coming out at pressure) so i took the vent out and looked at it. at the front (of the car) and top sides of the vents there is like a 3/4 sized hole due to being so close to the edge of the vent. i crammed that purge line in there from the out facing side of the vent and pulled it through until there was about 1/4 of an inch protruding. did this on both sides and its PLENTY sturdy! should look kickass.
C. Ordered a Vumaxx Pedestal gauge cup for my UEGO until i have more gauges to justify the pillar pod. it was only 20 bucks.

If anyone ends up reading this and feels like helping out....i need to know if

A. I can run 91 octane (best we can get here) with the spray or if i need to get some additive.

B. What A/F range i should be shooting for with the spray

C. What is the window switch that is the best/easiest...and what all is involved in getting one of those puppies installed.

thanks guys. we have a track day on the 26th and ill be sure to get you some vids.