Multimedia Exchange - 900whp 1800wtq Dodge Twin Turbo Diesel Truck vs. 600whp Turbo Civic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmPN-wxP_jo

great race. that civic moved. wonder if cummins was 4x4. good race tho

I doubt those were the true number on that truck. If it had 1800wtq it would have snaped off the line a hell of alot faster then that civic.

anyone notice the numbers on the civic, :lol: 605whp, and 380 ftlbs

I doubt it's 4x4 anymore if it was. They said it was tubbed so I'd say it was built well enough that it could launch better in 2wd

anyone notice the numbers on the civic, :lol: 605whp, and 380 ftlbs



Ummm.....I dont see whats your point! IT makes more torque than an ls1/ls2 in a car thats 1000lbs lighter. :gruffy:

Ummm.....I dont see whats your point! IT makes more torque than an ls1/ls2 in a car thats 1000lbs lighter. :gruffy:


i just find it funny that theres a 210 hp/tq difference when usually the most i normally see is 90 max, im not saying it isnt a quick little car, will it beat my car, possibly, do i think its fast ,yes, do i like it , no , do i give it credit, yes

I look at it differently. I see it as.... 1800ftlb vs 350ftlb and the latter wins.

ILR is from here in Houston as well as the truck (Whom I think is Joe's). Truck is turbo only last I checked, and the Honda guys do build some pretty fast rides.


Truck is 2wd, and is not a street truck.

Yep, I think the owners name is Huey

Trucks dyno sheet from a LONG time ago..

http://vobra.org/pics/JoeDieselTruck.JPG

I look at it differently. I see it as.... 1800ftlb vs 350ftlb and the latter wins.
good job you beat a modified truck....which was fast but put that 1850rwtq in an ls1 car and your 350 tq will get left.
the torque you are comparing is not an apples to apples comparison.

WTF are you talking about dummy. He called out the civic! He was confident enough with his 1850ftlb of torque, that he would easliy walk away from a civic. Guess what, it didnt happen. And what exactly isnt grits to grits? The fact that he has more 1 1/2 times the hp or is it the 6times more torque. Yea you are right, not a fair comparison. :mullet:

Thought the truck would be a lil faster.

Great race though.

Ive said that a billion times, TORQUE will not win you races. Thats what he was so confident on. Thinking he has damn near 2000ftlb, that he would automatically breeze through that civic.

good job you beat a modified truck....which was fast but put that 1850rwtq in an ls1 car and your 350 tq will get left.
the torque you are comparing is not an apples to apples comparison.
Posts like this are what makes domestic heads look bad. If If If If If..... Dude the civic got called out and the civic won!!! Get over it.... so the import got a win.... move on to the next ten vids where domestics smoke imports!!!

Honda boys could drive and had a quick/light little beast. Goes to show why the Maro needs to be lighter...it can have all the HP/TQ in the world and if Chevy makes it too heavy...will not be worth shit. Very interesting race.

W

Anyone think that 600rwhp and a 10.8 sucks. Arnt those car light? I was doing 10.8 with 550hp at 3800 pounds.

Anyone think that 600rwhp and a 10.8 sucks. Arnt those car light? I was doing 10.8 with 550hp at 3800 pounds.
Depends on the car...

AWD car drivers making 600awhp probably laugh at most RWD cars too.

AWD car drivers making 600awhp probably laugh at most RWD cars too.

Probably not. Since you can still launch the crap out of RWD.

so the truck called out a Civic that he knew ran a decent number. im sure he wasnt lookin to shame anyone....if that were the case he would have picked a Vette or a Mustang or something.

Ive said that a billion times, TORQUE will not win you races. Thats what he was so confident on. Thinking he has damn near 2000ftlb, that he would automatically breeze through that civic.

i love it when these videos get posted on Tech....every honda Fanboy come out of the woodworks to defend their mighty automaker.

you know what the funny thing is...had that truck beat the Civic by half a car instead of the other way around, your Torque remark would be totally differant...it would go like this ," Well, its got allmost 2000rwtq, and has the civic by 300rwhp, ofcourse its gonna win"

i love it when these videos get posted on Tech....every honda Fanboy come out of the woodworks to defend their mighty automaker.

you know what the funny thing is...had that truck beat the Civic by half a car instead of the other way around, your Torque remark would be totally differant...it would go like this ," Well, its got allmost 2000rwtq, and has the civic by 300rwhp, ofcourse its gonna win"


First of all, I dont own a Honda. Secondly, I have an 07 Tundra, Built 350z and an Tahoe, so what the F are you talking about.

Please dont insinuate anything! The fact is, the truck lost. Even with 6 times the torque. Cry me a river would you! :usa:

AHHH it's an all out E-battle!!!!

First of all, I dont own a Honda. Secondly, I have an 07 Tundra, Built 350z and an Tahoe, so what the F are you talking about.

Please dont insinuate anything! The fact is, the truck lost. Even with 6 times the torque. Cry me a river would you! :usa:
however.....you do own an import therefore feel the need to chime in and defend a fellow import when someones talkin about it...which is what you did. than it turns into a "who dick is bigger internet fight"...which is pretty much what all these "import vs the world" threads turn into when they get posted on Tech. seems, your the one crying in your previous threads and whining about torque. :cool:

however.....you do own an import therefore feel the need to chime in and defend a fellow import when someones talkin about it...which is what you did. than it turns into a "who dick is bigger internet fight"...which is pretty much what all these "import vs the world" threads turn into when they get posted on Tech. seems, your the one crying in your previous threads and whining about torque. :cool:


Please tell me who initiated the conflict and made this an import vs domestic battle? Go back to the first page and read! But yet, you feel the need to defend someone else who talks about an import.....so ironic :hump:

ILR is from here in Houston as well as the truck (Whom I think is Joe's). Truck is turbo only last I checked, and the Honda guys do build some pretty fast rides.


Truck is 2wd, and is not a street truck.


theres no need to argue over it. like the post above says the cummins was turbo only. there are 1000s of things to pick out on why the dodge lost.out of dodge ford and chev, cummins put out the most torque just look at 1320 videos diesel video. that dodge did great for turning about 3600 rpms compare to the hondas 9000 or watever they turn. if u really wanna argue it out someone would have to post the specs up one the car and truck.

however.....you do own an import therefore feel the need to chime in and defend a fellow import when someones talkin about it...which is what you did. than it turns into a "who dick is bigger internet fight"...which is pretty much what all these "import vs the world" threads turn into when they get posted on Tech. seems, your the one crying in your previous threads and whining about torque. :cool:



"anyone notice the numbers on the civic :funny: , 605whp, and 380 ftlbs"

can we plz kick off all the imports on this board(and a few mustangs) there fuckin annoying and all they do is cause arguements. I really wish they would stay on there own board

can we plz kick off all the imports on this board(and a few mustangs) there fuckin annoying and all they do is cause arguements. I really wish they would stay on there own board


Are you blind or just dumb. Look on the first page and see who started the arguements first. IF you have a problem with what others say, dont click or post on the thread! Plain and Simple! :mullet:

this was your first post in this thread...suttle to say the least huh? :judge:

Ummm.....I dont see whats your point! IT makes more torque than an ls1/ls2 in a car thats 1000lbs lighter. :gruffy:

this was your first post in this thread...suttle to say the least huh? :judge:


It was my first post, but it was in response to post number 4! Obviously you are blind and incoherent, if you couldnt discern any of the post before me. :gtfo:

Hellofa race, nuff said.

There are domestic ricers and import ricers. Dont get dragged into argument with either you just look foolish.

WTF are you talking about dummy.

Alright...that's it. I've had enough of your :bs:

I've reviewed every single one of your posts here at LS1Tech and
nearly all of them have been derogatory. You haven't contributed
anything positive to this site from a tech standpoint or even a
non-tech standpoint quite frankly. Each of your posts are argumentative
and I'm sick of watching you bash real members here.

:ban: :wavey:

The Dodge is way more cool than the ricer.That truck has to weigh at least 5,000 lbs and it almost beat a 10.80 car.Compound turbos and 100+ psi is badass.:hail:

My Dodge is modded and makes 800+rwtq.It's a blast to drive and the look on peoples face when they get left by a 8500lb 4x4 dually is priceless.

I thought I could make a huge cloud of coal black exhaust but that guy has me beat.

I just don't get these import dudes. They go and build a car that's balls out, and go race a slight bolt-on car and claim some type of monumental victory. True enough the civic beat the truck, but then teases it has more torque than LS1/LS2? AT ITS STOCK NUMBERS no less. Thx Unit, I can think of a couple of more people that need to be banned...

Posts like this are what makes domestic heads look bad. If If If If If..... Dude the civic got called out and the civic won!!! Get over it.... so the import got a win.... move on to the next ten vids where domestics smoke imports!!!
honestly i dont really care about who won what. the civic beat a truck wow!

I just don't get these import dudes. They go and build a car that's balls out, and go race a slight bolt-on car and claim some type of monumental victory. True enough the civic beat the truck, but then teases it has more torque than LS1/LS2? AT ITS STOCK NUMBERS no less. Thx Unit, I can think of a couple of more people that need to be banned...
Yes it is a monumental victory!!! Imagine this... Mike Tyson and Verne Troyer.... (Mini ME) have a fight.... Mike Tyson Easily wins right? Now what if Verne takes gobs of steroids works out and becomes a midget beast. If he wins it will still be monumental... even though it took gobs of steroids and modifications to beat a normal Mike Tyson. Its your own fault for driving around the car equivilent to Mike Tyson!!! So even though I'm on steroids... I'm still gonna rub it in when I kick your ass!!! LMAO :engarde: :jest:

honestly i dont really care about who won what. the civic beat a truck wow!
Yeah but that truck was fast as hell and I'm just speculating.... but he'd probably spank your vette.... especially if it had the driver mod!!! Hell I can't find the vid right now... but I've seen 11 second big rigs.... so if the civic spanked him would you say.... awww you just beat a fricken big rig..... big deal?!!!! There are a few constants in racing... two that I know to be fact are.... anything can be made fast.... and he who has the biggest checkbook usually wins!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-u_eX2bGFw

Yes it is a monumental victory!!! Imagine this... Mike Tyson and Verne Troyer.... (Mini ME) have a fight.... Mike Tyson Easily wins right? Now what if Verne takes gobs of steroids works out and becomes a midget beast. If he wins it will still be monumental... even though it took gobs of steroids and modifications to beat a normal Mike Tyson. Its your own fault for driving around the car equivilent to Mike Tyson!!! So even though I'm on steroids... I'm still gonna rub it in when I kick your ass!!! LMAO :engarde: :jest:the car barely edged out the truck he didnt kick its ass.
import drivers get so fuckin happy wenever they beat a domestic its fricken rediculous.

so wuts next for the honda modified semi trucks......
:cheers:

Alright...that's it. I've had enough of your :bs:

I've reviewed every single one of your posts here at LS1Tech and
nearly all of them have been derogatory. You haven't contributed
anything positive to this site from a tech standpoint or even a
non-tech standpoint quite frankly. Each of your posts are argumentative
and I'm sick of watching you bash real members here.

:ban: :wavey:

Thank God, or Unit :lol:

very true. a 10.7 isnt impressive with 600whp.
freind went 10.7 on 480whp.
600whp is a 9's car for sure. they need to do some suspension or a diffrent size slick or something


Anyone think that 600rwhp and a 10.8 sucks. Arnt those car light? I was doing 10.8 with 550hp at 3800 pounds.

I drive my ls1 v-8.. But will defend for the foreign honda car. they take a 18sec and got 10's congradualtions with a 4 cylinder we take a 13 sec v-8 and most of us go 10 or 9's.......

Now why cant we respect that.
Does he have a huge wing? NO
Does it have a body kit....NO
does it have NEONS-NO
these are the things a RICER would do.

I have no problem with a quick import or a nice one at that.



The Dodge is way more cool than the ricer.That truck has to weigh at least 5,000 lbs and it almost beat a 10.80 car.Compound turbos and 100+ psi is badass.:hail:

My Dodge is modded and makes 800+rwtq.It's a blast to drive and the look on peoples face when they get left by a 8500lb 4x4 dually is priceless.

I thought I could make a huge cloud of coal black exhaust but that guy has me beat.

I drive my ls1 v-8.. But will defend for the foreign honda car. they take a 18sec and got 10's congradualtions with a 4 cylinder we take a 13 sec v-8 and most of us go 10 or 9's.......

Now why cant we respect that.
Does he have a huge wing? NO
Does it have a body kit....NO
does it have NEONS-NO
these are the things a RICER would do.

I have no problem with a quick import or a nice one at that.
i definetly see your point and acknowledge it,however im one of the guys who just does not like imports. take it as you will thats how it is for me.

the truck may have lost bet yet it was to a really quick car, noneless they were both fast, got to give the truck man props for keeping up with the civic. The truck had nothing to lose anyway, if he wins he beats a fast car, if he didnt oh well hes in a truck, big deal. also why is everyone arguing over a race that neither car in the race has anything to do with this forum...jw

Thx Unit, I can think of a couple of more people that need to be banned...

No problem. :thumb:

I have a few more people in mind too that I'll be pulling the trigger on soon.

the truck may have lost bet yet it was to a really quick car, noneless they were both fast, got to give the truck man props for keeping up with the civic. The truck had nothing to lose anyway, if he wins he beats a fast car, if he didnt oh well hes in a truck, big deal. also why is everyone arguing over a race that neither car in the race has anything to do with this forum...jw

thats exactly the point i was tryin to make. it seems that everytime a vid is posted of an import here on Tech it allways turns into a pissing match cause a Tech reguler says something that a fanboy doesnt like and he feels the need to come in and defend said import. its rediculous and happens all the time. :engarde:

Anyone think that 600rwhp and a 10.8 sucks. Arnt those car light? I was doing 10.8 with 550hp at 3800 pounds.

Lack of torque?

however.....you do own an import therefore feel the need to chime in and defend a fellow import when someones talkin about it...which is what you did. than it turns into a "who dick is bigger internet fight"...which is pretty much what all these "import vs the world" threads turn into when they get posted on Tech. seems, your the one crying in your previous threads and whining about torque. :cool:

I stick up for imports and I have never owned one? I currently own my 5th and 6th domestic cars and my 3rd fbody. Guess that ruins things for you doesn't it?

What I don't understand is for the people that say they don't like imports, why open this thread?

That wasnt even directed toward you so i dont know what your talkin about.

I stick up for imports and I have never owned one? I currently own my 5th and 6th domestic cars and my 3rd fbody. Guess that ruins things for you doesn't it?

What I don't understand is for the people that say they don't like imports, why open this thread?

i definetly see your point and acknowledge it,however im one of the guys who just does not like imports. take it as you will thats how it is for me.
See this is what bothers me..... people who just hate for the sake of hating!!! The crazy part about it is judging by your screen name you are an import yourself. Don't tell me you were born here... because so was a lot of import cars. The irony is most f-bodys are actually imports made in canada and mexico. You should open your mind a little!!! :cheers:

thats exactly the point i was tryin to make. it seems that everytime a vid is posted of an import here on Tech it allways turns into a pissing match cause a Tech reguler says something that a fanboy doesnt like and he feels the need to come in and defend said import. its rediculous and happens all the time. :engarde:
So you're trying to tell me that if you're on an import site and see them bad mouthing domestic vids and spreading misinformation about domestics.... you would just bite your tongue? I really love ls1tech... and for the most part I try to avoid conflict... but I won't sit idly by while I read the usual........... All import owners are douches...... it takes a million dollars to make an import fast..... import owners won't race from a dig.... import owners are only worried about how ricey they can make their cars look... along with all the other bs that floats around this site. I will always eloquently chime in my .02 cents.... to set the record straight. :cheers:

for the love of god....i never said anything about the import. and no, i dont troll on other sites defending domestics..if theres a thread where misinformed people are way off the radar on what they are talkin about i try to have a civilized conversation..as soon as it turns into crap, which 98% do, i leave it be and could care less what they say. the guy just got banned cause this site is too much for him and he cant have a civilized conversation without spewing insults at people. that happens in every thread that envolves an import. it can never just be about a good race with an import...theres allways excuses on why something happened or the domestic was a POS cause it lost to "a Civic" etc.etc. its rediculous. theres allways a handfull of people who cant respect a fast import or import people who cant respect a domestic. its really getting old.

Lack of torque?
Like I said..... missinformation!!!! Torque has nothing to do with that civic only running 10.8!! As I stated in one of my previous posts... the civic needs the driver mod!! My friend john ran 10.4 @ 136 in his integra with 50 less whp and the same tq... in a car that weighs 500lbs more. If your torque theory were true he'd go slower not quicker... since torque is what gets heavy cars moving. 350+ is plenty of torque for a 2200lb car!!! That car should run 9's at 145+mph!!!

for the love of god....i never said anything about the import. and no, i dont troll on other sites defending domestics..if theres a thread where misinformed people are way off the radar on what they are talkin about i try to have a civilized conversation..as soon as it turns into crap, which 98% do, i leave it be and could care less what they say. the guy just got banned cause this site is too much for him and he cant have a civilized conversation without spewing insults at people. that happens in every thread that envolves an import. it can never just be about a good race with an import...theres allways excuses on why something happened or the domestic was a POS cause it lost to "a Civic" etc.etc. its rediculous. theres allways a handfull of people who cant respect a fast import or import people who cant respect a domestic. its really getting old.
Now this I agree with!!! :cheers: BTW I never said that you said those things about imports.... I was just making an example!!

I don't see why people argue over this shit. Give respect were it is due. For most of you bitching about how you hate imports maybe you just are expressing that because it is another import that will smoke your domestic. I have owned both imports and domestics. I love how fast imports rev and handle. Nothin beats rippin up some tight corners with my Z. I also like the sound of a nice V8. Both have they're pros and cons. Every car is a damn import any ways. More then 90 percent of your parts are "imported" Just watch the damn videos and dont post if it is going to start a argument. This is called "MULTIMEDIA SECTION" for a reason.

that civic moved... the driver might need to work on shift points/actual shifting and it woulda of been a larger gap for the dodge... good run IMHO

That wasnt even directed toward you so i dont know what your talkin about.

Never said it was. Just pointing out the fact that you don't have to own an import to stick up for them.

See this is what bothers me..... people who just hate for the sake of hating!!! The crazy part about it is judging by your screen name you are an import yourself. Don't tell me you were born here... because so was a lot of import cars. The irony is most f-bodys are actually imports made in canada and mexico. You should open your mind a little!!! :cheers:
wtf i was born in napa valley,california. my mom is from mexico and my dad from puerto rico. this doesnt matter one bit. dont get butt hurt cuz i dont like import cars. yayaya respect cars that are fast how am i supposed to respect a car thats fast if i dont even like it in the first place. imports sound and look like shit to me get over it.

wtf i was born in napa valley,california. my mom is from mexico and my dad from puerto rico. this doesnt matter one bit. dont get butt hurt cuz i dont like import cars. yayaya respect cars that are fast how am i supposed to respect a car thats fast if i dont even like it in the first place. imports sound and look like shit to me get over it.
To me your way of thinking is closedminded just like a member of the KKK! To not like something... or deny it respect simply because of what it is... quite frankly is pigheaded IMHO!!! I'm not at all attracted to white girls... they just aren't my thing... but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate them.... and judging by the ls1 hotties thread... there are quite a few I wouldn't mind giving a little taste of chocolate!!!! LOL :jest: It seems I'm barking up the wrong tree in trying to get you to modify your way of thinking... so I'll just agree to disagree. Just please don't post in any thread I start... because our far off views just cause unneccessary conflict!!! :cheers:

To me your way of thinking is closedminded just like a member of the KKK! To not like something... or deny it respect simply because of what it is... quite frankly is pigheaded IMHO!!! I'm not at all attracted to white girls... they just aren't my thing... but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate them.... and judging by the ls1 hotties thread... there are quite a few I wouldn't mind giving a little taste of chocolate!!!! LOL :jest: It seems I'm barking up the wrong tree in trying to get you to modify your way of thinking... so I'll just agree to disagree. Just please don't post in any thread I start... because our far off views just cause unneccessary conflict!!! :cheers:
in case you havent noticed we all werent born the same....except it.

in case you havent noticed we all werent born the same....except it.
This world would be a very boring place if we were!!! So I guess in a weird way we actually need the kkk.... and import haters!!!! LOL You take it easy man!!!

in case you havent noticed we all werent born the same....except it.

Yeah, some of us were born with a dictionary in our household. :angel:

i dissagree.open downpipe turbo civic sound wicked to me. and my other freind has a built motor that cams its balls off.
when i had my 480WHP civic delsol. thing cammed like a mother fucker and sounded like a rapped ape.


wtf i was born in napa valley,california. my mom is from mexico and my dad from puerto rico. this doesnt matter one bit. dont get butt hurt cuz i dont like import cars. yayaya respect cars that are fast how am i supposed to respect a car thats fast if i dont even like it in the first place. imports sound and look like shit to me get over it.

The best thing about owning a fast honda- is having a person with a domestic car with a v-8 tell you... that thing is outta my league....

my freidns turbo civic is outta my league. and he loves knowing that lol

I drive my ls1 v-8.. But will defend for the foreign honda car. they take a 18sec and got 10's congradualtions with a 4 cylinder we take a 13 sec v-8 and most of us go 10 or 9's.......

Now why cant we respect that.
Does he have a huge wing? NO
Does it have a body kit....NO
does it have NEONS-NO
these are the things a RICER would do.

I have no problem with a quick import or a nice one at that.

Anything that is Japanese is rice to me.I'm from Detroit and have 20+ family members working for the big three.

I still think the Dodge is way more cool then that car.Any full size 5,000 + lb truck running 10's is very impressive.

Yeah, some of us were born with a dictionary in our household. :angel:

Yes but not all some people look ri·dic·u·lous [ri-dik-yuh-luhs], spelling "rediculous" the incorrect way.

i dissagree.open downpipe turbo civic sound wicked to me. and my other freind has a built motor that cams its balls off.
when i had my 480WHP civic delsol. thing cammed like a mother fucker and sounded like a rapped ape.more power to you man im not sayingtheres somethin wrong with it im jus sayin i dont like imports for their looks and the way they sound....it never attracted me thats why ive never owned one.


This world would be a very boring place if we were!!! So I guess in a weird way we actually need the kkk.... and import haters!!!! LOL You take it easy man!!!
i thought kkk members were white....im not white all though i look like it.
i wouldnt say i hate imports im just sayin i dont care for them is that good enough for ya. no reason for you to compare me to being pig headed or kkk.

haha thats funny a hispanic kkk member.

Yeah, some of us were born with a dictionary in our household. :angel:

your point?

Yes it is a monumental victory!!! Imagine this... Mike Tyson and Verne Troyer.... (Mini ME) have a fight.... Mike Tyson Easily wins right? Now what if Verne takes gobs of steroids works out and becomes a midget beast. If he wins it will still be monumental... even though it took gobs of steroids and modifications to beat a normal Mike Tyson. Its your own fault for driving around the car equivilent to Mike Tyson!!! So even though I'm on steroids... I'm still gonna rub it in when I kick your ass!!! LMAO :engarde: :jest:
Dude, you just made this post more pointless. Lets just say mini-me did all that shit and we hand Mike Tyson a Red Bull... :confused:

Civic rolled out, good to see it smacked that dodge.

only 137mph? I was a bit surprised at that, that much power and a tiny civic i would have expected a tad more MPH.

:supergay:
anyone notice the numbers on the civic, :lol: 605whp, and 380 ftlbs

:werd:

Some of you guys need to step back, that civic would drag the piss out of most of the people posting in this thread.

Some of you guys need to step back, that civic would drag the piss out of most of the people posting in this thread.

Definitely.

It might be a little no-torque shit box, but it's moving out. :nod:

It aint the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog?

I'm sure both are even faster now, If you guys would like I can get the owner of the Honda in here?

If you guys would like I can get the owner of the Honda in here?

Oh yeah...that would really help. :eek2: :corn: :D

Nah, the guy is a shop owner and normally conducts himself very well on the other boards. I doubt he would take anything to heart here.

Does it really make a difference in what car won, it's a damm race. I luv racing and I'm sure alot of members here do too. And I luv the outcome of "any" race cause there all unique and anything can happen.
Doesn't it seem like members are discriminating on the import. And for the record I don't own or have owned an import, and Im an ol' member here that has contributed my fair share.
I really don't see why that other person was banned, it kinda seems like the tech rules were used specifically against him to please other's, but whatever I'm the mod here.

Im an ol' member here that has contributed my fair share.


You consider 3 months and 20 posts an "ol member"?

You consider 3 months and 20 posts an "ol member"?
I knew somebody would quote that. But no I don't conisder this account an ol member, I'm using my bud's computer. BTW Ive been on here longer than you so slow it down a notch.

hey i never meant that as an insult that civic booked and i liked it

I knew somebody would quote that. But no I don't conisder this account an ol member, I'm using my bud's computer. BTW Ive been on here longer than you so slow it down a notch.
everyone's been here longer than vengance. LOL

I knew somebody would quote that. But no I don't conisder this account an ol member, I'm using my bud's computer. BTW Ive been on here longer than you so slow it down a notch.

So log into your account and post up.

Nah, the guy is a shop owner and normally conducts himself very well on the other boards. I doubt he would take anything to heart here.

I'd say 90% of the posts here defending imports are factual and level headed and it still turns into a 10 page fight.

It's ironic too because if you post a domestic video on an import site (that everyone claims is full of "ricers") most of the import guys will give credit where credit is due and there is never these types of arguments.

So log into your account and post up.
No, this is the exact reason why I used this account to post. Simply cause it seems like if you'r not a long time member or have a big post count than you aren't taken seriously. Unit', if you don't mind tell me what differnece is it going to make if I log into my account and post here.