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xXSilencerXx
09-21-2007, 09:44 AM
I found out today that my rear end is on its way out. The guy said that is sounds like the bearings are going bad and it is whineing when they take it up to speed. He said it's probably gunna run me $3900 for a rebuilt one and $2900 for a used one. what should I do. I don't know if I even make $3900 in a year. What are my options for fixing this when it finally lets go, I don't much about the actually rear end and how to fix it.


01CamaroZ28
09-21-2007, 09:47 AM
12 bolt, 9 inch or Dana S60. They're all pretty much in the 2k neighborhood and perform much better than the crap 10 bolt.

01CamaroZ28
09-21-2007, 09:48 AM
dont even think about rebuilding it. waste of $$$


98_Formula
09-21-2007, 09:52 AM
r u serious... they want to charge you 3900??? you could buy one used on this board for under 500 bucks.

your best option is definitly a 12 bolt or 9" as previously mentioned...

xXSilencerXx
09-21-2007, 09:53 AM
Is there any place you recommend to get these from. I'm trying to find someoen who sells it but I don't how to make sure it'll fit my car.

z28mccrory
09-21-2007, 09:55 AM
Hell for 3900 you could buy a car and take the rear out of it... lol

Just get a 9" and call it a day... Scott and DLS is the man.

xXSilencerXx
09-21-2007, 01:04 PM
I picked the car up. It sounds like the typical noise I've seen people say they hear. It's a high pitch whineing sound kind of like a dish washer. I didn't know squat about F-body's when I bought and it's had this noise for the year and half I've had the car. I don't have money to fix it so I'm just gunna ride on it for now and hope I've got the money saved up for when it does let go.

Jon5212
09-21-2007, 01:10 PM
I think i'd start using a different shop. If you take it to a reputable shop should be ~500-600 to get it rebuilt if you are really in a bind.

hasenbonkers
09-21-2007, 01:27 PM
yea as said, definately go to another shop! That's exactly wut my rear end was like, it was whining sooo bad. I went to a Chevy dealer, they replaced all bushings, and bearings and all new fluid for $750. Not bad

Ericbigmac83
09-21-2007, 01:28 PM
They are trying to rip you off big time, you can get a badass 9" and driveshaft for like 3k. You can pick something a little more basic for 2400. and you can get a used pos 10bolt for a couple hundred bucks

keliente
09-21-2007, 02:34 PM
Planning on racing, beating on it, need it to last for a long time? Invest in a 12 bolt, 9 inch, or S60.

Poor, just using it as a daily driver? Buy a complete used 10 bolt rear end off someone for $150-$400.

And PS, find another shop, that one is CRAZY expensive.

Sharpe
09-21-2007, 02:45 PM
It would help for us to know what state you're in. Call a sponsor shop in your area.

If you dont make 3900 in a year, I would suggest buying a $500 Honda Civic. Seriously. having a shop fix this problem with a used 10-bold (which costs hella shipping) is going to ruin you. Sucks, man. :(

Go to a bank and ask for an auto repair loan. You'll need a written estimate.

bbqz28
09-21-2007, 02:48 PM
[Chris Tucker voice]Don't eva.. eva eva eva eva eva eva go back to that shop. Ok![/Chris Tucker voice] ;)

J/k, they're trying to rip you off big time. I just had mine rebuilt because of a pinion bearing going out and it cost me $600. I would've loved to go ahead and swap in a 9", 12 bolt or S60, but I didn't have the money saved up.

If you were closer you could buy the spare rear that I have. It only has 13k miles on it. I would've put it in my car, but I didn't have the time to have the machine work done to convert it to a 3 channel rear. The rear is a 4 channel btw.

xXSilencerXx
09-21-2007, 02:51 PM
I'm in Northern Va. We've been using this shop because they are pretty good about everything else except when it gets into this big stuff. I believe he was giving my estimates with labor included but even still I was like hell no I ain't gunna gring it to you. I'll try to get a second opinoin from another shop or just get a used or new one.

I may be able to get a lone from my grandparents. They are both retired so....and they don't collect intrest.

99camarosupersport
09-21-2007, 02:58 PM
They are trying to rip you off big time, you can get a badass 9" and driveshaft for like 3k. You can pick something a little more basic for 2400. and you can get a used pos 10bolt for a couple hundred bucks
Listen to this man here.

If your not building the car up anymore I'll suggest spending 200 or so and getting another 10 bolt, with the mods you have on basically stock power you have no need for a 9in or 12 bolt IMO, that is unless more is to come.....but judging by your lack of funds for this, I would guess not.

Just some financial/real world advice for you. I know people like to see nice things go into F-bodys, but sometimes it's just not practical. :)

CAMAROZ28SS
09-21-2007, 03:03 PM
get a 12 bolt

Asmodeus
09-21-2007, 03:05 PM
Listen to this man here.

If your not building the car up anymore I'll suggest spending 200 or so and getting another 10 bolt, with the mods you have on basically stock power you have no need for a 9in or 12 bolt IMO, that is unless more is to come.....but judging by your lack of funds for this, I would guess not.

Just some financial/real world advice for you. I know people like to see nice things go into F-bodys, but sometimes it's just not practical. :)

yeah, this guy's pretty smart for a colts fan.

you don't need a high end rear with your mods and lack of funds.. a replacement will be fine for a few more years.

I just saw a used rear with 3:42's from an M6 in the midwest section last month NOT sell for 400 bucks.

99camarosupersport
09-21-2007, 03:09 PM
yeah, this guy's pretty smart for a colts fan.

you don't need a high end rear with your mods and lack of funds.. a replacement will be fine for a few more years.

I just saw a used rear with 3:42's from an M6 in the midwest section last month NOT sell for 400 bucks.

:jest:

Mr.Powers
09-21-2007, 03:22 PM
Got to the junk yard, pay 200-300 for the new rear... make sure its one from a front end collision, pref. with low miles.

You can start in the morning on saturday and be cruisin' saturday night. Had to swap it on my car... its not bad, but the e-brake clip is mild bitch.

austin21
09-21-2007, 03:47 PM
yeah like everyone else has said for what you have just get a new/used 10 bolt but if you do have plans of going with a more hp/tq setup then i would go with a 12 bolt or a 9in perferably the 9in if it was me. but if you feel you have to go this route i would contact some of the sponsers (sp!) on here . I see all the time where the guys over at EPP have pretty good deals on new moser rear's what ever you do good luck man sorry to hear of your troubles and that someone is trying to jip you

xXSilencerXx
09-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Yeah I'm working on something right now. Just another 10 bolt. If that falls through I'm gunna get another 10 bolt. Cuz like you guys said I'm not packing the power to need anything bigger and I don't make the $$$ to get anything requiring a beefey rear end. I will be trying to build this car up later but that'll be a few years down the road when I've hopefully graduated and have the kind of job that'll give me enough $$$ to afford bigger mods. For now the closest mods to come are a lid and a smooth bellows. After that it'll be a big saving time so i can attempt to get heads, a cam, LT's, intake, stall and some other stuff.

Smokin00WS6
09-22-2007, 12:06 AM
Hey man, Im going through the same thing. Honestly just do this, get new axle bearings, and the other bearings(sorry i cant think what they are called right now little too much boozin) throw that in and your golden. Its the typical rear end weakness. Just put a few new parts in it. But if you are goijng to beef up the car, I know alot of sponsers on the tech have some good deals with the set ups. I think Speed inc is one and maybe Thunder Rancing. 9in or 12 bolt, but I would go with the 9".. Good luck.

scites
09-22-2007, 07:50 AM
I don't know if I even make $3900 in a year. What are my options for fixing this

First id look for a better job,lol. then id just buy a used rear off the forum and swop it out. you can find a good used rear for 200-300 hundred if you look around

1_bad_TA
09-22-2007, 01:11 PM
Strange engineering. Strange makes dana 60's, 9", and 12 bolts for the f-body cars. I know mine is going to break next year, I'm going with something from them.

sdbrown84
09-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Yeah I'm working on something right now. Just another 10 bolt. If that falls through I'm gunna get another 10 bolt. Cuz like you guys said I'm not packing the power to need anything bigger and I don't make the $$$ to get anything requiring a beefey rear end. I will be trying to build this car up later but that'll be a few years down the road when I've hopefully graduated and have the kind of job that'll give me enough $$$ to afford bigger mods. For now the closest mods to come are a lid and a smooth bellows. After that it'll be a big saving time so i can attempt to get heads, a cam, LT's, intake, stall and some other stuff.

Don't really waste your money on the rebuild. The 10-bolt gears are weak enough. Let alone the axles on even a moderate moded car. If you want a complete swap get a used one.

Where are you located? I'll be taking my old one out in a week.

Starion
09-23-2007, 11:42 PM
What kind of noise are you getting exactly? Does it come and go with different speeds?

You may just be getting some gear noise and might not be an issue for a very long time. Just an annoyance.

tpduke112
09-24-2007, 05:56 AM
yea as said, definately go to another shop! That's exactly wut my rear end was like, it was whining sooo bad. I went to a Chevy dealer, they replaced all bushings, and bearings and all new fluid for $750. Not bad
Not bad???? I would say you got taken for a ride!

NDFORSPD
09-24-2007, 12:59 PM
mine whines usually from 55-65/70 mph, doesnt matter the gear 5/6....sorry to hijack, thinking whether bearings might be it, i did a flush 2 mo ago and the fluid was totally clean, no metal whatsoever

Starion
09-24-2007, 02:01 PM
NDFORSPD:

I'm not a rear end expert so keep that in mind. However, I have speed sensitive whine like you have from 55-65 as well so I've researched it a lot. This falls under the category of gear whine.

Bearing whine is usually at all speeds and increases in intensity with the speed of the vehicle. (which makes sense if you really think about it since the bearing is turning whenever the vehicle is in motion) If you have bearing whine, it's best to address the problem asap or you'll soon be walking. Once the bearing gives up completely, you're not going anywhere.

Gear whine can be caused by multitude of things (bad setup, worn gears, lost pinion preload etc.). This is more of a nuisance than a sign of impending disaster. Gear whine tends to show up under certain speed ranges. Once it becomes intolerable you can address it. I've heard of some people with 100k on their cars say it made noise ever since they drove it off the dealer lot and it's never broken.