Street Racing & Kill Stories - Saturn-Vs-LS1 Update thread... *Video*

For the owners sake... because i dont know if he wants his name out there, i wont say any names...

But yeah, one of the guys from was kind enough to drive down here and line up with me :)

He had a 2002 Firehawk T/A W/ a Lid and Headers, car was a 6 speed.
We ran three races one from a dig and one from a 30mph and 40mph roll, from a roll he put about 3 cars on me each time.... from a dig...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swVZhnz2L7I

So... no, im not faster than a slightly modded T/A... and thats all i wanted to know, i thank the owner of said T/A for driving all that way just to meet up with me and help me out with my inquiry... Guess ill just throw on a few more mods and try again... im not that modded just yet so another $500 should get me about where i wanna be :) im contemplating what to do after i get my exhaust... the thought of 10:1 compression pistons has been lingering there for a while, ill prolly go that route :)

nitrous...... good run buddy

Damn to lsj running ls1's with vids you see my thread lol

it had headers? i thought u wanted to run a light bolt on or stock ls1, like lid/catback, headers really wake up ls1s

it had headers? i thought u wanted to run a light bolt on or stock ls1, like lid/catback, headers really wake up ls1s

Anything wakes up a ls1 even the free mods

it had headers? i thought u wanted to run a light bolt on or stock ls1, like lid/catback, headers really wake up ls1s

The LS1 guys here are telling me that the guy cant drive, headers dont add that much, ect, ect, ect...

i dont know who the hell to believe anymore lol, im hearing a million different things... i have a feeling i should trust what you guys are saying tho...

how much do LS1's gain from headers and a lid?

But yeah, it was a fun run :)

depends on the tune... with LTS its anywere from 15-40 horse... and a lid is just .5-1hp.

well stock there about 305, with lid/catback about 315 and with headers about 340...

Headers and a tune on a LS should get around 30 rwhp. My personal experience was 18 rwhp from the headers and another 12 rwhp for the tune. I could possibly see an Fbody getting a little more since the stock exhaust is so restrictive. It would have to be an entire change though headers, y pipe, and catback for anything above 30 rwhp.

The LS1 guys here are telling me that the guy cant drive, headers dont add that much, ect, ect, ect...

i dont know who the hell to believe anymore lol, im hearing a million different things... i have a feeling i should trust what you guys are saying tho...

how much do LS1's gain from headers and a lid?

But yeah, it was a fun run :)
Ok im going to jump in here .. hey .. dont be frustrated.. all every one says maybe true...but each car is diff.

My car stock went 8.46 and 13.01 at 107 .. my friends ta same year about same mods .. excpt auto, barley made it out of the 9.0s in an 8th .. so every car is a little diff.. seems you have a nice ride .. good luck with it
just my pennies

Heres some pics from afte the race :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/GetAttachment.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/GetAttachment3.jpg

And some pics of my car :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/IM001422-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/IM001423.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/IM001411.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/IM001410.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/intalect/IM001409.jpg

no offense, but even if it has potential.....it's still a saturn :gay:

and you own a car that creaks more than a old motel bed... whats your point its his car not yours

depends on the tune... with LTS its anywere from 15-40 horse... and a lid is just .5-1hp.


Lol, your saying a lid gives 1/2 a hp? :jest:

your hp can very from dyno run to dyno run by more then 1/2 a hp... lids will typically give you 5-10 or so rwhp, exhuast about 10 (depends on what kind), and headers about 15-30(without a cam).

a lot of bolt on cars running lid, headers and exhuast from what Ive seen make 340+ to 360+(some are freaks) rwhp...

That little car looked like it ran pretty good for being a supercharger ecotec. What all do you have done to it?

and you own a car that creaks more than a old motel bed... whats your point its his car not yours
well it's still gay...thats why i said no offense. It did run very well, but still a saturn. WTF do you mean my car creaks, when have you riden in my car? I guess you have to take up for him, cause yours is pretty much the same thing, except slower.

That's a pretty hard running car you've got there...can't be mad at that! :thumb:

Keep it on topic guys (no bashing) or I'm locking this down.

no offense, but even if it has potential.....it's still a saturn :gay:

What is the point of even posting this?

What is the point of even posting this?
your right, sorry. It really was a fast saturn....my bad dude, I dont why i was bashing. I apologize to all, and BTW he would have deffiently taken my car

your right, sorry. It really was a fast saturn....my bad dude, I dont why i was bashing. I apologize to all, and BTW he would have deffiently taken my car

Well of coarse! its slow!!

Haha just kidding mang ;) :angel:

depends on the tune... with LTS its anywere from 15-40 horse... and a lid is just .5-1hp.
A lid gives more than .5-1hp. ;)

Good death. Try to find an ls1 that is stock or that has just a lid or just a catback and see how you do

That little car looked like it ran pretty good for being a supercharger ecotec. What all do you have done to it?

Well... it came from the factory supercharged, they are capable of 14.2's with a good driver but most people average 14.4's in stock trim.
GM says 205hp and 200tq but countless baseline dynos have shown anywhere from 200whp (generaly 04's, they had a crappy tune and countless problems) on up to 227whp (06+) in stock trim, though the average dyno is somewhere between 210whp and 215whp stock...

only mods ive added are:

ZZP Modular Hub
ZZP 2.8" Pulley
GM Stage 2 Drive Belt
CAI
Lucas 42.5# Injectors
HP Tuners Custom Tune

Ive got just a little over $400 invested into my setup, im pretty happy with it :) after exhaust, cams and some 10:1 compression pistons i should be able to walk that T/A pretty easily :)

your right, sorry. It really was a fast saturn....my bad dude, I dont why i was bashing. I apologize to all, and BTW he would have deffiently taken my car

Do I sense some sarcasm?

Well... it came from the factory supercharged, they are capable of 14.2's with a good driver but most people average 14.4's in stock trim.
GM says 205hp and 200tq but countless baseline dynos have shown anywhere from 200whp (generaly 04's, they had a crappy tune and countless problems) on up to 227whp (06+) in stock trim, though the average dyno is somewhere between 210whp and 215whp stock...

only mods ive added are:

ZZP Modular Hub
ZZP 2.8" Pulley
GM Stage 2 Drive Belt
CAI
Lucas 42.5# Injectors
HP Tuners Custom Tune

Ive got just a little over $400 invested into my setup, im pretty happy with it :) after exhaust, cams and some 10:1 compression pistons i should be able to walk that T/A pretty easily :)


I really want the GF to get either a Cobalt SS or something similar. But she has her heart set on a SUV.

Im sorry but id rather have a trans am than a damn Ion

I really want the GF to get either a Cobalt SS or something similar. But she has her heart set on a SUV.

Meh... cobalts suck lol...

Naw, but in all reality in 09 the cobalt SS is going to have the LNF Turbo ECOTEC... 2.0 with 260hp and 260tq and a 6 speed transmission, should be a nice little runner, i can say one thing, the SRT crowd doesnt stand a chance when that platform comes out... the saturn Astra will be getting the same platform as a redline model and there have been rumors about an AWD option too.

Supercharger sounds awesome. Keep it up, :cheers:

You must have bought everything used if $400 bought all that. Good running car.

Here's an oldie but a goodie..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tA9Hxlfmn4

You must have bought everything used if $400 bought all that. Good running car.

nope... custom fabbed CAI (my own design), the 42.5# injectors were new but i got a good deal on them from a fellow redlineforums.com member, the 2.8" pulley and hub were brand new from ZZP themselves and the HP tune only cost me the price of the credits for my car.