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Old 09-24-2007, 10:02 AM
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Over the weekend i overheard a conversation about 4l60s with stock pans burning up clutches for the 2-3 shift. Said when WOT all the trans fluid is at the back of the pan and no fluid for the 2-3 shift and that everyone should run a deep pan with a baffle. Anyone else hear of this?
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While with very very good 60 ft times yes its possible to evacuate the pan generally thats not and issue with the 2-3 shift and so has no effect on the 3-4 clutches. But a deep pan and not some fancy high dollar thing is a good idea and truck pan which are relativley cheap and a truck filter wil do the job very well
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:06 AM
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Unless your dragin the rear bumper going into 3rd JT, I would have to say that therory is BS.
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lol , thanks Vince. thats what i figured. I was board at work so id figure id throw it out there.
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This problem usually does not happen to the vast majority of street vehicles. But if you are doing a very quick 60 foot time, (1.4 ET or quicker) then it is possible to pickup air on the initial leave and it will most likely affect the 2-3 shift. If you think that this is happening to you, then overfill the transmission by 1/2-2/3 of a quart and see what happens. This almost always solves this.
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I would think it would be more apt in the rare instance it might occur to affect the 1-2 shift since thats when you would have the greatest G force. But agreed that adding 1/2 quart should solve it.
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I personally think that a pressure gauge would tell the truth if in fact this is happening. We have a vette that we use for testing puposes that cut's very good 60's with the wheels in the air and does not have this problem with a stock pan. I do know that the vette has a lower sump but the band in this trans has been in there for 3 seasons with the same reverse input drum. Absolutly looks perfect without any skids on the drum. I understand that this is not the 3-4 clutch, however with the way this car leaves, it does not do this. Just my opinion. Vince
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Agreed on the presure guage . It might be interesting to watch the guage in a car with the trans line at a fixed presue and a killer 60ft just to see if it can happen. I personally have not seen it , I have heard it spoken of several times but thats just talk. I have seen fluid a little low cause the pan to evacuate under those conditions but thats somethng different entirley as the 4L60E is very fussy about fluid level. I still like the deep truck pan when its feasable with the deep filter.
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i put the wrong filter in a vette once and that fried the trans twice till i put the pressure guage on & noticed what was going on. 3-4 would fry just around the block!




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