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Old 09-29-2007, 09:44 AM
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Looking at costs right now for a d1sc and fmic. I already have 30# svo's and a racetronix and fuel rail setup and a wideband commander. Intake and exaust are good as well as the drivetrain. I'm at 11.3:1 comp right now with a 238/240 113 lsa cam . From what I've been reading I should be able to run 5-7 #'s of boost and make about 40% more power. I'm at 427 right now so that would put me around 600 and I would be happy.

I need a D1sc for around $2800.

FMIC Core Size 24"X12"X4"
Overall Size 31"x12"x4"
3" Inlet & Outlet, 4" Core
and piping kit would be a good cooler ? both for $241

ATI super damper 450

belts?

What else do I need? boost guage? Who sells the bracket for the s/c and FMIC and how do you put all this stuff together?

Are my tr6 gapped at 045 plugs ok?
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You can get an F1A for around that same price range you are looking at for a D1SC. Call Bob at EPP

You will also need the J bracket.

Gap the TR6's at .035
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I dont need big boost but I guess if its the same price, that 2800 was from Bobs site but I found the FMIC stuff cheaper somewhere else.

Do you need meth if your running a I/C? given my high compression
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Meth would help with detonation on your high SCR for sure. Just pulley the F1A down so you are not spinning it as fast so you don't make much boost. But even with a big pulley on the F1A, you may not be able to make only 5-7psi. Why not just get a different set of heads to lower your compression then go with 10-12psi? That would make more power and be at a safer CR.

Also- don't take everything on EPP's website at face value. Most of the procharger products you see online are the minimum price procharger will allow to be advertised. If you call Bob, he can give you a better price over the phone most of the time, he just can't put it in writing
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I'd have to sell my heads for what I paid for them and they are not run of the mill AFR 205's. I'd rather run less boost and not take it in the shorts selling my heads.

If someone wanted to trade me an equivelant set of heads maybe but I honestly don't want to pull the heads again.
Its tuned good right now at like 31* of timing which is insane for compression but there is zero detonation or ping or anything and it likes it very well so maybe I wont have an issue with detonation with the s/c and 7lbs of boost and just the fmic. Thats why the d1 is fine for me.

Really I'd be happy with 40-45% more power. That should put me over 600 and thats all I want. I dont need 800hp. Not yet anyway..lol Well, if the price is the same then ok!

Reality is I dont see me getting what I paid for my heads and if I can accomplish my goals doing it this way then I'm happy.
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You can get some stock 6.0L 71cc heads for less than $400 when patriot runs their sales. You don't necessarily need awesome flowing heads for FI. All you will be doing by using ported heads is lowering the boost- as it is only a measure of restriction. However, you'd still be flowing the same amount of air CFM-wise either way, just back pressure (boost) will change.
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If all I'm worried about is detontation and I dont have any at 31* timing right now then why cant I use the heads I have and run as much boost as it will tolerate. A more efficient head cant hurt and again I'm only looking to gain 35-40%. Just to compliment what I have and put me at 600. Bob said it wasnt a problem at 11.0:1 so is 11.3:1 going to be all that worse? I can hagg;e prices later right now I'm tying to get the parts list that I need and to see how feasible it is and what would be my results.
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pulleys
bypass valve
bigger injectors
pipping for the intake side+filter

if you havent already, pull out the air system to make some room for the filter
you might have to relocate the horns and cruise control like you do with the ati kit.

your best bet would to find the instructions from ati so you can get an idea of whats involved.
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30# svo's arent big enough? Do I really need a bypass valve at 7#'s boost? Not sure how that works. DO educate me please..lol
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The 30lbs injectors wont cut it. $2800 is the price for just the head unit, right? Like others have posted, you will aslo need the j-bracket, all the pulleys, bypass valve. If you can, get your crank pinned.
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Originally Posted by 02NBMFormula

your best bet would to find the instructions from ati so you can get an idea of whats involved.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...html?item=1043

Here is a copy of the manual. Bob
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
I dont need big boost but I guess if its the same price, that 2800 was from Bobs site but I found the FMIC stuff cheaper somewhere else.

Do you need meth if your running a I/C? given my high compression
You have to consider the quality of the silicone you buy for a front mount intercooler kit. We had one car at 10 psi blow two different couplers that had OBX silicone on it. Bob



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Thx Bob, I was able to find it on your site. Very helpful!
I'll call you this week so we can discuss my situation and see what you think is best.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
30# svo's arent big enough? Do I really need a bypass valve at 7#'s boost? Not sure how that works. DO educate me please..lol
No way are 30 pound injectors large enough. You need 42lb for 5 to 8 lbs of boost. You need a bypass valve, no matter how much boost you are running. Bob




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