Pontiac G8 2008-2010 - Pontiac G8 Weight and pricing!
B4CZR2
10-03-2007, 09:08 AM
Well here you have it:
General Motors is preparing to launch the Pontiac G8 and has announced pricing for the highly-anticipated sedan. Based on the Commodore from GM's Holden subsidiary in Australia, the G8 will serve as a replacement to the aging Grand Prix.
The base model — priced from $27,595 — features a 261 horsepower 3.6-liter V6 with 250 pound-feet of torque. A more powerful G8 GT — starting at $29,995 — delivers 362 horsepower and 391 pound-feet of torque thanks to a 6.0-liter V8.
The basic G8 features a five-speed automatic with manual mode, while the GT version is offered with either a six-speed automatic or six-speed manual gearbox.
Curb weight for the V6 model is 3,885 lbs, while the GT weighs just five pounds shy of 4,000. 18-inch wheels come standard, while 19-inch alloys can be ordered with the GT model.
The sedan rides on GM's new Zeta rear-wheel-drive platform, which underpins the 2009 Camaro and possibly the next-generation Impala, in addition to several other planned vehicles.
G8 deliveries are expected to begin in early 2008 — a relatively short lead time made possible by some very effective badge engineering.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/pontiac-g8.html
*Edit Update*
The lone transmission option for both the V6 and V8 2008 models will be a six-speed automatic with paddle shifters. Earlier press information indicated that a manual option for GT cars would be available, but this is not the case. "What we've said — and which is still the case — is that the six-speed manual won't be available at launch," a Pontiac spokesman told Edmunds. "There is no manual option for 2008." It is believed that there will be a manual option for 2009, although GM has yet to confirm if and when a manual will be available.
Curb weight for the V6 model is 3,885 lbs, while the GT weighs just five pounds shy of 4,000. 18-inch wheels come standard, while 19-inch alloys can be ordered with the GT model.
The sedan rides on GM's new Zeta rear-wheel-drive platform, which underpins the 2009 Camaro and possibly the next-generation Impala, in addition to several other planned vehicles.
B4CZR2
10-03-2007, 09:13 AM
Curb weight for the V6 model is 3,885 lbs. The new G8 which is based on the same platform as the 09 Camaro, a V8 Camaro we can expect to weigh in just shy of 4,000#s. My guess it will weigh a little less since the G8 has a longer wheel base. So perhaps 37-3800.
WECIV
10-03-2007, 11:09 AM
Expensive and fat.
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The Guz
10-03-2007, 12:10 PM
Not a bad starting price for the GT. I will probably wait and see if they come out with a GXP version. Plus I get a discount from GM which will save me about 6-8K. I figured that if the Camaro is offered in an SS version it will be close to 40K.
ChocoTaco369
10-03-2007, 12:19 PM
Expensive and fat.
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I agree. I'm very disappointed. This has bad news written all over the Camaro, too. I really wouldn't want to buy a Camaro that's hundreds of pounds heavier than a GTO.
gun5l1ng3r
10-03-2007, 02:19 PM
Uh oh! I can see it now ..."New Uber-Camaro Slower Than GT500"
chrisdacarnut
10-03-2007, 03:05 PM
The G8 is a 4 door family sedan the camaro will be a 2 door coupe. There will probably be a 300lb difference between the 2. So the new camaro won't weigh anymore than a fully loaded T/A does. Use some common sense.
HFLDtA
10-03-2007, 03:36 PM
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bad2000z
10-03-2007, 07:28 PM
So this MUST mean the Camaro's are all gonna weigh 4000lbs!!(sarcasm) Some of you guys are retarded. Go buy a Challenger then.
ChocoTaco369
10-03-2007, 07:36 PM
The G8 is a 4 door family sedan the camaro will be a 2 door coupe. There will probably be a 300lb difference between the 2. So the new camaro won't weigh anymore than a fully loaded T/A does. Use some common sense.
Let's hope that it's more like 500 lbs. Over 3,600 lbs is disgustingly fat, and I can practically guarantee the Camaro will be significantly heavier than that.
JD_AMG
10-03-2007, 08:51 PM
I just read there will be no manual transmission offered... Ugh, just when I thought GM knew what they were doing... This is a huge disappointment, I was actually going to buy this car years down the road... I hope your reading this GM...
mzoomora
10-03-2007, 09:57 PM
Let's hope that it's more like 500 lbs. Over 3,600 lbs is disgustingly fat, and I can practically guarantee the Camaro will be significantly heavier than that.
My Camaro weighs about 3600 lbs, no leather. I dont expect teh new one to be much different in weight, and if the new Camaro gets the LS3 it wont be a slouch.
ChocoTaco369
10-03-2007, 10:12 PM
My Camaro weighs about 3600 lbs, no leather. I dont expect teh new one to be much different in weight, and if the new Camaro gets the LS3 it wont be a slouch.
That sounds REALLY high :confused: That sounds more like the weight WITH driver. Hell, convertibles frequently weigh in around that weight.
hc8719
10-03-2007, 10:15 PM
There may not be a manual, but there will probably be a paddle shift option, which is actually fairly nice on the current Grand Prix.
Please before you call the new Camaro, (and the Zeta platform) a fat ass, consider the G8 is a Holden Commodore, rebadged. If anyone knows a bit about Australia, they overengineer many of their cars to compensate for their crappy roads.
Personally, I think GM is making a mistake, the 2008 Grand Prix, a near full size sedan starts at $21,000 for a base model. The G6 can't absorb all of the Grand Prix sales when the Prix ends production next year.
Theres going to be a big price gap between the base G6 and the base G8, which I think is a mistake. Pontiac for years had a compact car (Sunbird/Sunfire/G5), followed by, midsize cars (Grand Am/G6), then the near full size (Grand Prix), and lastly the Full size (Bonneville/G8)
My Grand Prix GT2, which is fully loaded weighs 3500lbs has nice pick up with the 200HP/230Torque V6. The Nissan Maxima weighs 3500lbs also, and has 255HP/255Torque, and is a fast mother (for a full size sedan). The Base G8 with 262 HP will be able to pull its 3800lbs nicely.
GM nor many consumers want a ultra speedy sedan, IMO, the G8 will be decently fast, It won't be a full blown sports car, but a Sport Sedan
ULTIMATEORANGESS
10-03-2007, 11:35 PM
im pleasantly surprised by this cars pricing. what do other 4DR rwd V8 cars cost and weigh in this category? 300 cars weigh more and also cost more. a manual will be offered mid yr. and a GXP version is pretty much a guarantee in 09. :D i like this car.
WECIV
10-03-2007, 11:56 PM
Why buy this when you can buy a cheaper Charger?
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20SS07
10-04-2007, 10:37 AM
Because the Charger R/T is actually slightly more expensive and slower. Automatic G8 GT will run to 60 in 5.4 seconds and do the 1/4 in 14 flat with the manual that WILL be offered later in the year being a little quicker. Quick enough in my opinion for a big family sedan that can be had for just under 30K.
besch
10-04-2007, 11:48 AM
Is it going to be faster than a fourth gen convertible??
Billiumss
10-04-2007, 12:11 PM
Damn thats going to be heavy but it should ride nice. My wife and I can't wait till it comes out, most likely that will be her new car as long as its a M6.
I'm going to guess the new Camaro will weigh in around 3800-3900. It's going to need the LS3 to get it in the low 13's
alex94z
10-04-2007, 12:49 PM
I don't think people who would be interested in this car care about who or what they're faster than.(I am one of those looking at it) This isn't meant to be a Camaro, T/A, or GTO replacement. It's a fast fun 4 door family sedan. I seriously looked at the Charger, but's it's just too fugly on the outside and bland on the inside. For people who need the space for kids and the trunk space, but still want something fun to drive, this is perfect. And at 30K, it's a bargain.
20SS07
10-04-2007, 01:04 PM
I don't like the Charger interior at all, part of why I went with the Imp. The G8 interior looks really nice. Where else can you get 360hp for 30k.
HFLDtA
10-04-2007, 03:38 PM
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Pro Stock John
10-04-2007, 03:50 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm still interested in this car, pending more pics and pricing info.
HFLDtA
10-04-2007, 06:57 PM
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alex94z
10-04-2007, 07:24 PM
Lol you have a good point except for the price! No one will pay 30k for 2-year old 2006 GTO's (the ones still on lots). GM is overpricing. I expect the pricing to reflect just as the 04 GTO's did. They started out at 32k, then in the fall, they dropped! Gm is charging too much for there product! Dont get me wrong, ive owned nothing but GM cars. THis is just rediculous.
Well, Dodge doesn't seem to have a problem selling the crap out of the Charger R/T and it starts at $30,755, which is the G8's main competition. This car will appeal to a larger crowd then the GTO because it's a 4 door and actually has a huge usable trunk. Plus it looks awesome, while the GTO looked like a big cavalier. Again, the G8 isn't supposed to be the GTO replacemant, it's more of what the Bonneville/Grand Prix SHOULD have been. A large powerful RWD family hauler.
alex94z
10-04-2007, 07:28 PM
The equipped V8 is hardly a LS2! Doesnt anyone see this I feel like im taking crazy pills!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/t/structure/mitsuman/avatar/mugatu.gif
Wait for the GXP. :D
The Guz
10-04-2007, 07:59 PM
Wait for the GXP. :D
Thats what I am waiting for.
20SS07
10-05-2007, 10:34 AM
I'd be content with the GT personally. IF there's a GXP you know it's gonna be over 40 grand.
96BIGBODY
10-06-2007, 01:07 AM
Expensive and fat:eyes:
Under 30,000 is good for what you get. My 96impala almost cost that.
You dont find it impressive that a 3995 lb pontiac , can handle and brake within a whisker of the nimble 3500lb bmw and lexus IS350? Aussie mags consistantly get 13.5 @ 105 with the same car.
SSNISTR
10-06-2007, 01:22 AM
I just read there will be no manual transmission offered... Ugh, just when I thought GM knew what they were doing... This is a huge disappointment, I was actually going to buy this car years down the road... I hope your reading this GM...
Read again....you CAN get a manual w/ the V8.
Jpr5690
10-06-2007, 06:47 AM
Yea Guys Your Missing The Point Here The G8 Is Suppose To Compete With The 3-5 Series Bmw Its Not A Race Car
If I Was Gonna Buy A Sedan This Ar Would Seriously Be Looked At 30k For A Car Like This Is Gonna Be A Good Deal
Although We All Want Factory Ready Race Cars The Majority Of The Generals Customers Ovbiously Didnt Like That Approach
(hence The Death Of The Fbodys In The 1st Place)
Phoenix_Master
10-06-2007, 08:25 AM
The equipped V8 is hardly a LS2! Doesnt anyone see this I feel like im taking crazy pills!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/t/structure/mitsuman/avatar/mugatu.gif
It's better then the LS2, mainly due to the L92 heads stock & L76 intake.
My1st Truck
10-06-2007, 12:24 PM
It isn't supposed to be a GTO or Firebird. It is supposed to be an all around nice 4 door sedan with good power, good brakes and good handling. I think it meets the bill and will be my next car. That way the T/A can stay parked.
k-mart
10-06-2007, 01:47 PM
:eyes:
Under 30,000 is good for what you get. My 96impala almost cost that.
You dont find it impressive that a 3995 lb pontiac , can handle and brake within a whisker of the nimble 3500lb bmw and lexus IS350? Aussie mags consistantly get 13.5 @ 105 with the same car.
No kidding. It seems like some of the people here think its 1990 or something.
When the cheapest V-6 Accord you can get starts at $25k, this car looks like a downright steal.
V-8, 6 speed auto or manual, IRS, and I'll run the quarter in the low 14's with 5 passengers. $30k is overpriced? You gotta be kidding me!
ricketzSS
10-06-2007, 02:58 PM
I'd be content with the GT personally. IF there's a GXP you know it's gonna be over 40 grand.
Over 40K? I dont think a GXP option is going to add over 10k to the base price of a GT. The car may be overpriced, but come on a 10 thousand dollar upgrade package, i dont see that happening.
20SS07
10-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Okay let me rephrase. With any options will be over 40 grand. It will be close to it. Look at the Charger R/T vs the SRT 8. Almost 8 grand more. I'd figure it's gonna start at atleast 37k if it has an LS3 in it. A fully loaded GT will end up in the mid 30's.
wildss
10-06-2007, 08:24 PM
http://www.holden.com.au
for more info........that is if it is based on the Commodore (which it sounds to be true).
BOWTIE
10-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Not sure why so many are bashing on the G8. While I admit I would love for that thing to come in around 3600 lbs, it does not seem like 4000 is that far off for a larger 4 door rwd V8 sports sedan. Granted I admit I do not really follow the sedan market or trends and freely admit that I am not sure how the G8 will compare to some of the other sport sedans in size or luxury, but a quick internet search showed that most of the competitors I could find offering V8 power plants were all coming in between 3800-4400 lbs with most of them being near the higher (BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc.). Now if this thing will only come close to competing with them in ride quality with similar amenities, then it should fly out of the showrooms being that it will sale for close to 1/2 of some of those others. Who knows, maybe the G8 will do for the sports sedan market what the C6 Z06 did to the supercar market (I doubt it but we can hope).
jfman
10-07-2007, 03:02 AM
Well, Dodge doesn't seem to have a problem selling the crap out of the Charger R/T and it starts at $30,755, which is the G8's main competition.
Dodge charger and chrysler 300 sales are doing well not because of performance. Most of the ones they sell are v6's and have 24's on them. Target market is african americans who want big cars that LOOK luxurious but are affordable and can fit big wheels easely. I say chrysler is succeeding pretty well.
I dont see the G8 being as big of a hit as the charger or the 300. I would prefer owning one over a dodge because the powerplant has so much potential but again... I'm not the target market.
Pontiac always look to bland and every model had the same body lines. The GTO looked like a RWD grand am and that's why it did not catch on.
You guyz have to keep in mind that it's always the lower end version that keeps a platform alive. Mustang GT's and Cobra would simply not exists if it wasnt for the gazillion of v6 ones that were sold.
chrisdacarnut
10-07-2007, 04:17 AM
Let's hope that it's more like 500 lbs. Over 3,600 lbs is disgustingly fat, and I can practically guarantee the Camaro will be significantly heavier than that.
Obviously you've never had your car on a scaled...
t/a's weigh 3600lbs
ricketzSS
10-07-2007, 10:49 AM
Okay let me rephrase. With any options will be over 40 grand. It will be close to it. Look at the Charger R/T vs the SRT 8. Almost 8 grand more. I'd figure it's gonna start at atleast 37k if it has an LS3 in it. A fully loaded GT will end up in the mid 30's.
Yea i guess your prob right, but im sure a base GXP will come pretty well equipped, and i can imagine that most people on here are like me and dont need all the bells and whistles. With that said 37k is alot of damn money, that thing better be in the damn 12's.
hc8719
10-07-2007, 12:46 PM
The G8 GT upon looking at cars that cost the same, is a bargin, I agree. Check out the Nissan Maxima, Accord V6, and Toyota Avalon, and compare them to the G8 GT.
Still, I wish they were keeping the Grand Prix around, even if they shortened it up a little, like it use to be
wsSIKK
10-07-2007, 05:21 PM
you know as much as i wish theyd keep the Grand Prix nameplate around, its just too damaged now... but i think pontiac needs a new change of pace, and introducing the G8 is going to do well. a sizable car, RWD V8 WITH a REAL manual transmission is in demand, and i think it will do great actually, cause seeing its competion, like the LX chrysler cars, the ford taurus, and the import sedans, they offer one thing, but youre missing another... its going to be interesting tho, but the cars got great reviews from spectators at the auto shows. i know im getting one, ill be right there when the manual comes out.
YoungGunLs1
10-15-2007, 11:01 PM
GM isn't just trying to market to people who want to run in the 1/4 mile..this car is a family sedan and is going to really do well for pontiac in my opinion, so who cares if it is heavy..it should be a high quality car, and it very classy looking, definately something pontiac needs in there lineup. If you want a fast car, don't buy a family sedan.. the new G8 is WAY the hell better then the all plastic, crappy, grand prix they have now, thats for sure.
e-love84
10-17-2007, 12:52 PM
Lol you have a good point except for the price! No one will pay 30k for 2-year old 2006 GTO's (the ones still on lots). GM is overpricing. I expect the pricing to reflect just as the 04 GTO's did. They started out at 32k, then in the fall, they dropped! Gm is charging too much for there product! Dont get me wrong, ive owned nothing but GM cars. THis is just rediculous.
Maybe you are taking crazy pills. An MSRP of 29,9 for the G8 GT, and you are getting a shitton of options standard. Try pricing out a BMW 5 series and see where you end up. This is a cleanly-styled, rear-wheel drive, four door sport sedan to compete with other luxery car brands. This isn't meant to compete on a Ford Tore-us level, this is meant to compete with the G35s/Acura TLs/BMWs/Lexus IS market. If the quality and build on this car is as good as I think it will be, it is an absolute steal. My dad is getting this as our family car, we've always had Lexuses before.
01 BERGER CAMARO SS
10-17-2007, 02:36 PM
looks go though. lol
B4CZR2
10-19-2007, 09:35 AM
Here is an update:
The lone transmission option for both the V6 and V8 2008 models will be a six-speed automatic with paddle shifters. Earlier press information indicated that a manual option for GT cars would be available, but this is not the case. "What we've said — and which is still the case — is that the six-speed manual won't be available at launch," a Pontiac spokesman told Edmunds. "There is no manual option for 2008." It is believed that there will be a manual option for 2009, although GM has yet to confirm if and when a manual will be available.
Curb weight for the V6 model is 3,885 lbs, while the GT weighs just five pounds shy of 4,000. 18-inch wheels come standard, while 19-inch alloys can be ordered with the GT model.
The sedan rides on GM's new Zeta rear-wheel-drive platform, which underpins the 2009 Camaro and possibly the next-generation Impala, in addition to several other planned vehicles.
hexxLS4
10-19-2007, 01:47 PM
The car should be a screamer in my opinion. I mean, it's getting 362HP on regular unleaded fuel. This thing should be good for 40HP on a premium fuel tune. Throw on some basic bolt ons and you should be well into the 400hp range.
-Ross-
10-19-2007, 03:36 PM
Why buy this when you can buy a cheaper Charger?
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There's a huge aftermarket for LSX cars. You can't even get good custom tuning for a Hemi yet. Believe me. I know. I own a Hemi Ram.
The G8 is also better looking than the Charger, IMO.
I don't know why so many people are whining about this car. It's a couple of bolt-ons shy of 400hp. I'd bet a tune alone could get you to the 400hp mark. Nodbody was whining when the CTS-V came out and those things are $50k.
-Ross-
10-19-2007, 03:41 PM
BTW,
If you pay MSRP for anything, you are retarded.;)
20SS07
10-19-2007, 05:31 PM
The whole "get a Charger it's cheaper" argument is irrelevant cause it's not true. The Charger R/T starts at like 2 grand more.
GTObsessor
10-20-2007, 02:18 PM
The Camaro will be light, you can take my word on that. As for engine choices... there will be a couple options. ;) The G8 IS a family sedan with some muscle to it, NOT a race car guys. Keep that in mind. And yah, 29k starting price for that car is pretty dam good.
NJSPDER
10-20-2007, 07:56 PM
i think the biggest point about who this car is meant to apeal to is being missed. if you line it up against similarly sized and performance rated vehicles you will see that it is more in line to take sales away from the BMW and MB crowd than worrying about the overweight and overhyped offerings from the otehr domestic brands.
the G8 prices out almost $3k less than an entry level 3 series that offers similar interior space and mileage and less performance. from the pics of the G8 interior i would put it on par with the entry level BMW stuff i have driven. the MB offerings are even more expensive and really have less to offer in the 30-35k price range.
the 300/Charger/Magnum are very heavy, under performing, and over priced for what they have to offer. GM knows it and if you look at the sales of these models you can see that the general public has noticed too.
as far as the weight and performance of the new camaro, i as told previously by people directly involved in the program that we can expect to see cars with similar curb weights to 4th gens. maybe slightly heavier since GM builds all cars to a 5star crash rating now compared to the 4star ratings that the older f-bodies carried. more safety does add a bit more weight, a trade off the average street car owner would be more than willing to live with.
BOWTIE
10-21-2007, 02:21 AM
We are not "average", but I agree with the rest of your points.
NJSPDER
10-21-2007, 03:20 PM
as far as being "average" i agree with you.
i would love to see GM get invovled in offering pure breed performance vehicles again. maybe make 1LE mean something positive again for the next generation camaro or make at least somewht of a stripper performance car available to the public.
right now the only companies that are really engaged in marketing to the performance enthusiasts are mazda and porsche. both companies offer models that you can delete a lot of the weighty features from without having to jump through hoops.
it is not a mass market, but chrysler did spend years shipping thousands of ACR units of the viper and neon, base porsche GT3's outsell optioned models almost 2 to 1, and mazda does not stock but is more than willing to order deleted down 3', 6's and miatas without any real effort other than waiting for it to come in.
GM follows that lead with the performance line up they have built in the last several years and you would see solsitces, camaros, g6's, and many other models dominating race tracks all over the country.
Big Bird WS6
10-22-2007, 07:51 PM
i am first on the waiting this for new GT G8 at local dealer. dealer called me today. it will be on hes lot March 28th. can't wait to get it. i am glad gm did something good.
Pegasus04
10-23-2007, 07:06 AM
I can't wait to see the G8's. I think it's a great looking car and will sell well. Boomers are going to be all over this! It has everything a modern sedan should have and it will be fun to drive.
72chevy2
10-26-2007, 09:08 PM
There you have it folks --- the precedent to the 2009 RWD Impala... Mark my word ;)
Blackhawk777
10-27-2007, 12:04 PM
I'm also in line for a G8. It's exactly what I want in a DD. Some balls and can still carry the family around comfortably. If I want to go THAT fast, I'll just drive the Formy.
NJSPDER
10-27-2007, 09:13 PM
as much as i want one i am not going to let myself buy a G8 right away. i know myself and my inability to leave things alone to well. it would turn into another project car with in hours of taking delivery. too many friends that would be too interested in seeing/fitting new parts to it. would be bad to my wallet and my insurance by the time i was done. lol
Johnnystock
10-28-2007, 08:49 AM
I was thinking about selling my maro to get a G8, but I'm too much about performance than luxury. I should wait for the new Camaro. But I'd love to have this car if I was older and had a family to enjoy as much as possible.
I think it will be a very nice product in its category(the best :P), but I'm not ready to be almost taken down by 4 bangers everyday just to get more luxury from a car...still the potential of the engine is great, but I dont buy a car new to get it heavily modified(not enough $$$$)
I think that the unavailable 6 speed manual on this car is another stupid thinking by GM. There will be Accord, BMW, Camry, etc with manual trans and not GM. WHY??? They have it!!! Dont tell me its for the market, they dont know shit about their market cause other brands sell and have manual trans cars.
Just my opinion...
TriShield
11-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Too heavy-not enough power-too much (slow 1/4). This will sell as good as the GTO! Hope they dont mess the camaro up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdmXNvJvFBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MY0F9q3AXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDhCdrj2sU
Make a more informed comment next time.
TriShield
11-01-2007, 12:13 AM
I think that the unavailable 6 speed manual on this car is another stupid thinking by GM.
It will be offered for the 2009 G8.
TriShield
11-01-2007, 12:17 AM
The Pontiac G8 is a four-door muscle car just as the LT1 Impala SS was, and the current Dodge Charger. The next Camaro is this car with a new body and bit of length chopped off of it. I expect it to weigh around 3,600 lbs.
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/conceptcar?modelid=20010
Holden is GM's best RWD engineering branch by far. Unless you live your life solely as a drag-racer you will not be disappointed by this car. The handling and general dynamics of it will be breathtaking, as will the quality and attention to details. Expect an extremely rigid and rattle-free structure too. They are going all out on this project.
Hagarr
11-02-2007, 11:32 PM
as much as i want one i am not going to let myself buy a G8 right away. i know myself and my inability to leave things alone to well. it would turn into another project car with in hours of taking delivery. too many friends that would be too interested in seeing/fitting new parts to it. would be bad to my wallet and my insurance by the time i was done. lol
Project car? Your Fbody has a LID and exhaust...lol.
Anyway, I think the G8 pricing is incredible and should be a hit. In 2009 I'll have to buy a new car and the G8 fits the bill.
Brian
jmdale1984
12-08-2007, 02:29 AM
I dunno about you fellas... but this means no 2010 Camaro for me. I would only buy one if it weighed less than my 2000. Unless it had some other hugely significant advantage.
Crowe 02'Z28
12-09-2007, 02:26 AM
I believe this car and the market that's it's trying to reach is a great step forward for GM. :nod: This car being on the Zeta platform and being a 4 door sport sadan which will have a longer wheel base is just shy of 4000 lbs; so I expect the New Camaro counter-part to be at least 200 lbs lighter. :D 3800 lbs and the LS3 or a supercharged LS9 varient will be plenty for any new Mustang to handle considering thier power to weight prowess. :punch: Mark my words the 2010 Camaro will be worth the wait!! You will be sorry you bought a fake Hemi. :nod:
mikespeed95
12-09-2007, 03:16 AM
I think it will be a very nice product in its category(the best :P), but I'm not ready to be almost taken down by 4 bangers everyday just to get more luxury from a car...still the potential of the engine is great, but I dont buy a car new to get it heavily modified(not enough $$$$)
when the fuck did 4 bangers start running 13's all the time?
damn ricers:eyes:
def if the G8 GT M6 comes out in '09, its on my wish list
98camZ
12-10-2007, 05:43 PM
Awd??????????????????
damon_Z
12-24-2007, 10:01 PM
What's amazing is that the G8 GT will actually be cheaper than the last GTO.
BigPimpinCook
12-27-2007, 06:16 AM
BTW,
If you pay MSRP for anything, you are retarded.;)
I'm not sure if your winking means you're joking or not.
Lol. I'd much rather buy a new car than a used one. :pimp:
We all have our reasons for buying new or old.
The G8 looks amazing. The pricing and weight is competitive, like everyone else has stated. I, personally, think GM is kicking some a-s and taking names. I would be in line to get one of these if the '10 Camaro wasn't coming out in a little over a year.
Chief Z
12-27-2007, 06:36 AM
Holden is still bailing out GM.
The Camaro will be significantly different. The platform is the same, but these two cars will be day and night. G8s are four door and likely to be at least 500 pounds heavier than the new Camaro. The G8 is so close in styling to the GTO that it is scary. The motor is just begging for upgrades! I could see bolt-on modded cars running 12s at the track. The price is competitive to other cars in the category, styling is contemporary, comfort is good. Should sell well. I still say wait and see until both cars are in showrooms.
Buy used and save money for mods. The demand for both cars should be high initially, that will keep new prices up. But, if they want to compete with the new Challenger, they will have to be throwing dealers money like candy.
Should be fun.
BOWTIE
12-29-2007, 07:58 PM
I'm not sure if your winking means you're joking or not.
Lol. I'd much rather buy a new car than a used one. :pimp:
We all have our reasons for buying new or old.
I think his point is you would be foolish to pay MSRP for any new car. I know I have purchased several (5 that I can think of) and have never paid even close to MSRP. Infact, I do not think i have paid invoice on the last 3-4. The last one I bought I paid invoice less a rebate that was being offered. Of course I have been known to walk on several dealers as well, even one after they let my wife at the time take the car for the weekend. She was sitting there crying while I told the guy i would not pay what he was wanting. We ended up getting the same car with even more options and in the color we really wanted for about $4000.00 less just a few weeks later from a dealer about 45 miles away. While 4K may not sound like much, it was only a 21K car.
Z Fury
12-29-2007, 08:47 PM
I think his point is you would be foolish to pay MSRP for any new car. I know I have purchased several (5 that I can think of) and have never paid even close to MSRP. Infact, I do not think i have paid invoice on the last 3-4. The last one I bought I paid invoice less a rebate that was being offered. Of course I have been known to walk on several dealers as well, even one after they let my wife at the time take the car for the weekend. She was sitting there crying while I told the guy i would not pay what he was wanting. We ended up getting the same car with even more options and in the color we really wanted for about $4000.00 less just a few weeks later from a dealer about 45 miles away. While 4K may not sound like much, it was only a 21K car.
That is awesome. I'll have to try this at some point, but I've never been in the financial position to buy a new car, until the new Camaro comes out... Hmmm...
Ghostintheshell
12-30-2007, 11:00 AM
and GM hopes you read that a manual option will be available in later years - likely when you purchase?:eyes:
I just read there will be no manual transmission offered... Ugh, just when I thought GM knew what they were doing... This is a huge disappointment, I was actually going to buy this car years down the road... I hope your reading this GM...
Ghostintheshell
12-30-2007, 11:03 AM
lol - COME TO CANADA THEN! you will see how UNDER-priced your vehicles are.
How bout you try a 45k Pontiac G6 GXP? As opposed to your 25k fully loaded sticker price..
Lol you have a good point except for the price! No one will pay 30k for 2-year old 2006 GTO's (the ones still on lots). GM is overpricing. I expect the pricing to reflect just as the 04 GTO's did. They started out at 32k, then in the fall, they dropped! Gm is charging too much for there product! Dont get me wrong, ive owned nothing but GM cars. THis is just rediculous.
nikeair042
01-10-2008, 11:26 AM
the pricing is perfect for this car. power wise, for the money, nothing better. Plus it looks nice! The interior doesnt look like Rubbermaid made it either. Everyone is crying and complaining about wanting a manuel. Is it really the end of the world? No. 6 spd auto vs a 6 spd manuel, it would be dead even. And most of the time, an auto will beat a stick at the track. It has manuel shift mode, thats good enough.
Cheatin' Chad
01-15-2008, 06:31 AM
Ugh, I was worried about the weight of the G8 and Camaro.
The Camaro should not weight one damn ounce over 3500lbs...
2002 Trans Am
01-16-2008, 12:06 PM
My biggest disappointment is not offering a navigation system...If you're truely trying to gain market share on entry level MB, BMW, Lexus, Infiniti you have to offer a Nav setup. In addition to that, they should offer AWD as the companies above do offer. I know the Southern part of the country could care less about AWD, but us Northerns sometimes make it a sticking point.
Personally I could live without the AWD as the added cost and lower MPG outweigh the problems I run into with snow.
Does anyone know what the MPG will be on the G8, if they can get a 20/28 on the GT and 22/32 on the V6 this thing will be a HR. What about Flex Fuel?
302_5.0
01-21-2008, 04:34 PM
they need a NEW TRANS AM...not a POS!!
WECIV
01-21-2008, 07:12 PM
They have a new Trans Am it is called the 2010 Maro. They need a G8 in the Pontiac Lineup.
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