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Old 10-12-2007, 10:01 AM
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For you guys running cars entirely off alcohol what are you seeing as far as coolant temps.

How much cooler do they run?
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no coolant needed. 160* head temp after a pass.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:23 AM
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damn....

What does it do while sitting in the staging lanes idling for a while?

Brady what IAT's/EGTs are you seeing on your car?
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It can idle forever and not burn up. It's in the tuneup. The problem we have with idling a long time is the fuel gets hot. I don't have any idea what the IAT's are. No intercooler. I know it maxed the IAT sensor out, then melted it off. I don't do EGT's we tune off the plugs. (And O2's)
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you melted the sensor off?????

damn, i guess it doesn't matter much since the air is supercooled as soon as it gets into the manifold.

so it only gets hot during the pass?

is the 160* head temp after a 1/4 or 1/8 pass?
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1/8th i cant imagine it getting too terribly much hotter in another 2.5 seconds though
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:19 AM
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showoff...

j/k

thanks for the info man i appreciate it.

Are you running a radiator at all?
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no radiator, dry block..
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We ran alky on a sbc and didn't run a radiator, water pump or even fill the block with water.
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Dont mean to hijack but how does methanol/alcohol get hot?

wouldn't it just eveporate?
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We're talking about engine coolant temps, alky motors don't run coolant, as far as getting hot never seen one over heat, but I'd say run lean like any motor would cause that.
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I know that, i was referring to Brady's comment about the fuel getting hot when it idles for too long
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heat transferred through the rails to the fuel, its returning alot at idle. It gets hot in the tank, trust me.
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wish i could run methenol in my ls1

the benefits are incredible
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Originally Posted by Brady
It gets hot in the tank, trust me.
Did you learn this the hard way ?
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Brady what kind of fuel system are you running?
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we were having fuel pressure issues and found the fuel in the tank to be almost too hot to touch. We had a rear mount cell then too, and the fuel could have been flashing in the suction line to the pump (belt drive waterman pump). Since then we moved the cell to the front of the car and had the pump rebuilt. The methanol ate up the pump housing..

The rest of the fuel system consists of a weldon regulator and whole bunch of fuel injectors.

I've got a feeling that stock suspension/radial racing will turn against methanol and we'll end up on gasoline next year. Oh well, that's racing.
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Originally Posted by Brady
we were having fuel pressure issues and found the fuel in the tank to be almost too hot to touch. We had a rear mount cell then too, and the fuel could have been flashing in the suction line to the pump (belt drive waterman pump). Since then we moved the cell to the front of the car and had the pump rebuilt. The methanol ate up the pump housing..

The rest of the fuel system consists of a weldon regulator and whole bunch of fuel injectors.

I've got a feeling that stock suspension/radial racing will turn against methanol and we'll end up on gasoline next year. Oh well, that's racing.
Is this the car with the really big procharger?
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http://teamprickracing.com/firebird8.../DSC01667.html

i would say its pretty big
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with our dragster.....after idling for 10 mins the valve covers were still cold. after a run and letting it idle, the water actually cools down.

cool stuff.


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