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Old 10-15-2007, 05:07 PM
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I am building a pro-touring 68' camaro and I am ready to buy my engine and tranny. I had originally decided on a 540 ci w/ 9.5-1 cr and about 645 flywheel hp with a tko 600. I am know thinking about doing a LS1 w/ a t56. My main question is what is a good rwhp number for a bolt on LS1 and what is an average of cost to build it. I have a buddy that has a complete LS1 w/ tranny and computer for a good price, but I just don't know what I am looking at paying to for all the goodies (bolt ons). I don't mind doing a stroker kit, heads, cam, or whatever it takes. I'm just trying to see if I can get close to the hp of the 540 w/ the streetablity and MPG of the LS1s.
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Depends what you mean by bolt on. Cam/heads/all bolt ons = 450ish could be more or less depending on the setup.
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You will not be able to get 645 hp out of an LS1 without forced induction.

A 454 LSX with some badass heads and a moderate cam will get you close to 645. Call up some engine building sponsors to get more specific.
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Originally Posted by BLK02TA
Depends what you mean by bolt on. Cam/heads/all bolt ons = 450ish could be more or less depending on the setup.
I would really like a 427 LS1 with heads and cam, etc. Here is the main question, I could probably have everthing complete with the 540ci and tko600 around 15k give or take a couple thousand (most likely take). What am I looking at ballpark for stroker LS1, bolt ons, machine work, and assembly. I just kicking around the idea to see if it is even an option.

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Originally Posted by 3.4camaro
You will not be able to get 645 hp out of an LS1 without forced induction.

A 454 LSX with some badass heads and a moderate cam will get you close to 645. Call up some engine building sponsors to get more specific.
What would be an guess on price for a build like listed above? And again the 645 hp is flywheel on the 540ci.
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Originally Posted by BLK02TA
Depends what you mean by bolt on. Cam/heads/all bolt ons = 450ish could be more or less depending on the setup.
thats rwhp, 15- 20% loss for the driveline? that would be alot at the crank
last bbc i had was a '69 gto 396 t-400 mild cam bolt ons 3:55 gears
750 double pumper. 11.5mpg on a good day and thats not having much fun
fun got more expensive but gas was about a $1.20 then.
there is alot to be said about late model computer controlled hotrods. torque is king on the street, BBCs are make alot but at $2.75 a gallon looking at the lsx makes real good sense. lsx puts up some good #s

kooks should make headers for that swap and how you go about the wiring could make or break your budget.
a '68 w\a late model drivetrain = cool
keep us posted!!
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Either motor is the ****......Its all about waht you want more I guess....

Dont forget to make an allowance for engine management...
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well i have seen ls1's built to 454ci and if you run good heads and somewhere around a650 lift cam or something like that you will be making over 600 ponies no problem. But turbo ls1 motors can be really potent if you want to go that route.
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I am now thinking about buying a LS2 crate motor and doing the following mods; http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec..._modification/
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if you had originally budgeted for 15,000 dollars to build your 540 + tko600 then I would pick up a crate LS7. A cam/headers only LS7 makes 550rwhp, and thats not even a big cam. personally i like the BBC and carb, but if you are driving it alot (pro-touring) to shows and all that I think an LS7 would be kick ***.....as would any LS-series motor.

edit...hell even LS3's are putting down 500rwhp with bolt ons and a mediocre cam.....pick up a crate LS3 and T56 for ~10 grand
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Plus doesn't a bbc weigh a ton more than a ls1?
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why yes it does...+1 for lsx
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Originally Posted by SomTA
I am now thinking about buying a LS2 crate motor and doing the following mods; http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec..._modification/
Is it just me or does that article seem a lil off? 573 all motor cam and heads ls2?? I know its possible but their stock ls2 crate motor made almost 500hp out of the box.
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Originally Posted by SomTA
I would really like a 427 LS1 with heads and cam, etc. Here is the main question, I could probably have everthing complete with the 540ci and tko600 around 15k give or take a couple thousand (most likely take). What am I looking at ballpark for stroker LS1, bolt ons, machine work, and assembly. I just kicking around the idea to see if it is even an option.

BTW: Thanks in advance.
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id go LS1 and reap the benefits of more money to spread around.



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