Drag Racing Tech - anyone have pics of a f2 in a lsx 4th gen fbody?

looking for pics of a f2 series blower in a 4th gen fbody



i realize most are going turbo after the f1 series but i didnt know if any one actually used the f2's with the lsx motors...

Thanks,

tyler

i know some one has put a F2 series in a 4th gen with a lsx so speak up!

I think Brady has an F3R, could be wrong.

I think Brady has an F3R, could be wrong.

He does ... along with a 500+ ci. big block :pimp:

On alky........

Hardcore's car had an F2 on it at one time I think, all custom brackets/drive.

Hardcore's car had an F2 on it at one time I think, all custom brackets/drive.

it was a TA with lightning on the side right?

did it use a cog?

He had a coupe and a convertible, the vert had the lightning bolts. I'm pretty sure they had cog belts on them. I know the vert ended up with an F3R on it I think. Never a lot of clear info on what they were running but there used to be quite a few pics floating around.

One way or another I will have the cog drive figured out this winter. F1R or X Series Vortec is the plan not F2 though.

Procharger has been ZERO help.

ASP made cog pulleys for and P/D/F series blower for forcefed98 on here, he had little luck with them but I think he still has them laying around. ASP will make whatever cog pulleys you want.

It will probably all have to be custom made, but the results should be good. Im really surprised noone has made a kit yet to do it, with the mounting hardware and whatnot. Probably the only reason you don't see more race cars with superchargers on 4th gen lsx stuff, noone is really putting any effort into making a drive system to run it that is reilable enough. God damn mustangs have about 100 options with cog setups ad mounting, not sure why noone has persued doing it on these cars. Wierd really.

I talked to ASP. They will make the pullies for it but not a bracket or the rest of the drive. I'm thinking either the F Body kit spaced out and strengthened enough or the GTO bracket. Motor plates will make it a bit easier.

Ya would think that one of the supercharger companies would invest in this. It's only the fastes growing engine platform. I get the "we sell enough street kits" crap.

I am going to use a cog setup from Procharger on my F1R. I hope to know how that works out in the next month or so:angel:

F Body? I want to see that. Keep me in the loop please.

How are you getting this done?

F Body? I want to see that. Keep me in the loop please.

How are you getting this done?

He is a crazy man....that is how he is getting it done. He is going to have to keep them heads on though....I rememmber hardcore's car had to replace head gaskets ever other pass at the thunder shootout a few years back. That was when they were running 8's

No I was wondering how he is getting the cog drive from Procharger. I was told it would need to be custom built.

I'll worry about keeping the heads down.

The pullies came from Procharger(obviously). The crank pulley is made to bolt onto a ATI Crank Pulley. And the blower pulley presses right on with a different hub. The tensioner we're on our own. But that shouldnt be bad I dont think:confused:They make it sound easy but i'm sure there will be a lot of:bang:

He is a crazy man....that is how he is getting it done. He is going to have to keep them heads on though....I rememmber hardcore's car had to replace head gaskets ever other pass at the thunder shootout a few years back. That was when they were running 8's

Yea, I am a little worried about that. I guess if it doesnt work I will get an LSX block and 6 bolt heads. But i hope I can get by for a while, I am tired of spending all my $$$ on this thing for now LOL:bang:

motor plates will/should help out alot.... i know what ET im looking for along with a race weight and i dont think the F1 series will help much....

motor plates will/should help out alot.... i know what ET im looking for along with a race weight and i dont think the F1 series will help much....

There have been Mustangs running 7's with them for years. How fast do you want to go:confused:

Any SBC pulley will bolt to an ATI damper and all the blower pulleys are the same. i'm sure ATI makes a SBC cog pulley or two.

An F1R will bolt to the regular brackets, thats not a problem. An F2+ is a different story.

IMO there is no reason to use a cog on an F1R and down on an LS engine, the SDCE 8 rib will handle it fine if set up right. I'm turning a 5.4:1 F1A nearly at max (73K) with no signs of slipping at all with one and I wouldnt hesitate to try a F1C or F1R if I needed the airflow.

A guy I work with on here has a 408 LS1 TA with an F1R on the max pully he just trapped at 130 ish bogging threw first and second (six speed car). Pump gas and no meth.

Like KP says his mounts up just fine. Its the F2 and higher that need custom mounted.

There is a LT1 D1 car on here about to break into the 8's.

A guy I work with on here has a 408 LS1 TA with an F1R on the max pully he just trapped at 130 ish bogging threw first and second (six speed car). Pump gas and no meth.

Like KP says his mounts up just fine. Its the F2 and higher that need custom mounted.

There is a LT1 D1 car on here about to break into the 8's.


I want to trap that...............In the 1/8th:D

Im going to keep giving the D1 a run for its money with BS3 on the way and a set of 62cc AFR heads and a set of flat top pistons.... looking for a CR of around 11-12 and retard my cam a few dregrees and see if i can bust off atleast a 6.0x.... if all else fails then probably the middle of next season ill have a bigger huffer on it... i need to make about 550fwhp on motor and then a add some boost...

Any SBC pulley will bolt to an ATI damper and all the blower pulleys are the same. i'm sure ATI makes a SBC cog pulley or two.

An F1R will bolt to the regular brackets, thats not a problem. An F2+ is a different story.

IMO there is no reason to use a cog on an F1R and down on an LS engine, the SDCE 8 rib will handle it fine if set up right. I'm turning a 5.4:1 F1A nearly at max (73K) with no signs of slipping at all with one and I wouldnt hesitate to try a F1C or F1R if I needed the airflow.

The pulleys I have are for a SBC. If the cogs dont work I will try that next I suppose.

the guys at EPP have put an extra idler pulley on to get more belt wrap on there F1A... its worth a call...

Getting the 8s with a D1SC wouldnt be that hard with the right car, I ran 9.17 @ 149.8 with the D1SC but havent been using it lately. I'll have to toss it on and see how it does with the new heads and cam one of these days, be pretty funny if it cracked an 8 with the D1 instead of the F1A lol.

But seeing F1R cars (non LS1) have been in the 7s I cant see a reason to go to the F2 just yet unless you just want to do it - nothing wrong with that.

Im going to keep giving the D1 a run for its money with BS3 on the way and a set of 62cc AFR heads and a set of flat top pistons.... looking for a CR of around 11-12 and retard my cam a few dregrees and see if i can bust off atleast a 6.0x.... if all else fails then probably the middle of next season ill have a bigger huffer on it... i need to make about 550fwhp on motor and then a add some boost...

You are going from one extreme to another with the compression ;)

You are going from one extreme to another with the compression ;)

what would be the negative side effects? this is no longer street driven but only to make the cruise for the racing series im in... alot of turbo guys around here were banned from using intercoolers a few years back so they upped the CR a point or 2 and ran faster without the A2W IC...

i figure if i can get the motor to make enough power NA then i get a suited cam shaft i should be able to only push about 10# (with a larger blower... looking for volume not boost) or so and not heat up the air enough to need a IC... unless i start running 1/4mile...

Steve did you talk to Lee at ASP in Houston for all the pulleys?

Ronnie's cars ran cogs, none of them ran 8 ribs. At one time I think Ronnie even tried a chain drive.

I have a friend with SBF, X-Trim, cogged, how about 5.30 and 132mph in the 1/8th in testing.

i figure if i can get the motor to make enough power NA then i get a suited cam shaft i should be able to only push about 10# (with a larger blower... looking for volume not boost) or so and not heat up the air enough to need a IC... unless i start running 1/4mile...

That all works fine but you still have to move x-amount of air through the blower to make the power and when you move a lot of air you make a lot of heat. No free rides..

KP when you stepped up from the D1SC, why did you pick F1A instead of F1R?

KP when you stepped up from the D1SC, why did you pick F1A instead of F1R?

I dont know really, I just wanted a 'little' more at the time. In retrospect I probably should have went with an F1R or F1C, either way my 150.00 intercooler cant keep up with the F1A so I assume the F1R would be even worse. No doubt the F1A makes more power then the D1SC so I dont think it was a bad move..

I want to trap that...............In the 1/8th:D



Well Brady is traping 150 in the 1/8th I think.

My F1R buddy and are ar both shooting for 150 in the 1/4 next year.

They might be 130 in the 1/8th, who knows. Its not as hard as people think. With amuminum heads off a 4X4 my car went 136 in the 1/4 on like a 150 shot and it will handle a lot more juice and that was spraying out of second I think.

So far I have talked with Lee at ASP, Called Reicharts (SP?), Procharger, Vortech, ATI, and a list of others. Not one person has recommended a cog setup even for a track car. 12 rib may be an option. SDCE swears that the 8 rib is all I need. Not 100% bought into that yet.

Got a guy I know that did an F2 on a 88 vert. I should see it run tomorrow. I'll let ya know how it goes.