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Cus'n Vinney - What posi in this car? ?

Old 10-29-2007, 09:31 AM
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Camaro SS 1999

...when both wheels are off the ground I spin one wheel forward and the other wheel moves backward. The car was in gear when this test was done.

Anyway, recently one tire was in a wet flower bed on a hill and the other tire was on dry pavement (my driveway). Neither tire would grip!

I thought if one wheel was in mud, a posi was supposted to switch the torque to the other wheel (A.K.A. info from the My Cusin Vinnie flick)

Is this posi burned out? I removed the 10-bolt cover and found clean gear oil (no apparent clutch material) and no busted parts stuck to the magnet.

...car runs fine with no noises, etc.
Old 10-29-2007, 09:41 AM
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Torsen will act this way, it splits torque but zero times whatever
(zero back-torque on the other side) doesn't engage the thing.
If you have the cover off then the construction ought to be
evident?
Old 10-29-2007, 09:49 AM
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You got a Torsen! It's normal.
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Yup, you don't have a posi. You have a Torsen limited slip differential. Join the club.
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Ok , whats the difference between a posi-traction unit and a limited slip differential?
Thank you .
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i always understood these two to be the same...though i never really got into the design of either, more their use in applications (ie road racing) where six of one is a half dozen of the other i guess
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Posi is just a brand name that GM uses, it is not a type of differential. Torsen, Auburn, Eaton, True-trac, etc are all limited slip differentials. If they are used in GM vehicles from the factory then I guess you could call it a posi.

No different than Trak-lok or Powr-lock for Dana, Trac-loc for Ford, Sur-grip for Dodge, etc. (I may have misspelled some of those, but you get the point)
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...Well I still got stuck in my own driveway with a torsen limited slip diff - that suks!
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...kind of embarrasing to boot...

sure hope the neighbors weren't watching
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...neighbors dont give a rats butt for my flowers but my wife will complain if 275/40 17 tire tracks are seen. If two burn-out tires tracks are found, I will shurely get blamed since she has seen the "Cuz Vinny" movie 12 times.

Every time this happens, I blame the FedEx man who she now hates, however!
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
Ok , whats the difference between a posi-traction unit and a limited slip differential?
Thank you .
Limited-slip means 2 wheels spin, so both a posi AND a Torsen are limited-slip differentials.

A posi means the inside of the carrier has clutches and when you spin one wheel, the other wheel will turn in the same direction. The Torsen is driven by worm-gears and when you spin one wheel, the other will spin in the OPPOSITE direction.

The cars that came with Auburn units are posi rears. They'd be the LT1 cars and a few of the LS1's with "high performance" rears. Most came with Zexel-Torsen limited-slip non-posi rears (G80 door code).
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So , whats the door code for the GOOD rear end ?
Thanks !
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
So , whats the door code for the GOOD rear end ?
Thanks !
Depends what you consider "the good rear end." There are advantages to each differential. The Auburn is marginally better for the track but the Torsen is much better for cornering.

If you have a G80 door code, your car came stock with a Torsen. If there's no G80, you have an Auburn.
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Originally Posted by Z ROADSTER
So , whats the door code for the GOOD rear end ?
Thanks !
lol there is no good rear end on these cars from the factory. unless your code says M12 (moser 12 bolt)


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