Drag Racing Results - PRELUDE vs CAMARO!!!
prelude_93vtec
11-16-2007, 06:20 PM
hey everyone. heres one of my friends preludes on the track few days ago. finally a prelude racin an ls1 on the track! it was a real close race but the prelude took it.
cant wait till i get my camaro and lude to race
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/escobar007/ludevsmaro.jpg
prelude ran an 11.52 and camaro 12.37
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/bfrieman/rogerlude6.jpg
bad2000z
11-16-2007, 07:32 PM
That's a pretty fast Honda.
black00ssFL
11-17-2007, 12:05 PM
LoL at 11.5 v. 12.3 being close. Agreed....that is a quick honda!
choppin-suey
11-17-2007, 06:50 PM
y0 rog' whats the deal dogg :devil:
AngryJ
11-17-2007, 10:10 PM
what were the trap speeds? I owned and loved a 4th gen prelude and had aspirations of boost until I bought the T/A
StngKlr
11-18-2007, 09:18 AM
LoL at 11.5 v. 12.3 being close. Agreed....that is a quick honda!
I bet the prelude had to do some catching up, hence why it was a close race. :nod:
choppin-suey
11-18-2007, 10:10 AM
I bet the prelude had to do some catching up, hence why it was a close race. :nod:
no the lude handed it to the maro, the lude is a 10 second whip and the maro runs 12's :nod: it really wasnt a close race lol.....
StngKlr
11-18-2007, 12:25 PM
no the lude handed it to the maro, the lude is a 10 second whip and the maro runs 12's :nod: it really wasnt a close race lol.....
Ahh, well its still a "lude" in the end. ;)
Caveman
11-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Honda`s suck no matter how fast they are!!!!
Asmodeus
11-18-2007, 04:47 PM
I saw a Saturn run low 10's. (ok, they converted it to rwd and dropped a 350 in it, but still)
speed = money, doesn't matter what you're building. There are some imports that would outrun 90% of this board, but there are lots of people on this board that would make that Prelude look like it was dragging a boat anchor.
It runs decent, and that's a decent time for a lightly modded LS1. Was the LS1 stock internal? Just asking since some stock internal LS1's on here are running mid 11's with just bolt ons.
00SS!
11-18-2007, 04:49 PM
no video?
AngryJ
11-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Ahh, well its still a "lude" in the end. ;)I loved my 4th gen prelude as much as the T/A I drive now
Honda`s suck no matter how fast they are!!!!you're ignorant
And what were the trap speeds??? If the prelude is a 10 second car he probably had 15mph on him at the end of the track
c5ul8r
11-19-2007, 02:21 PM
The honda is fast but you can make anything fast, i still wouldnt be caught dead in one! but congrats,to each his own!
ls1_doc
11-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Y is a 10 second car running 11.50's ?
dochall22
11-19-2007, 02:49 PM
where's the vid? how do we KNOW the lude won??? lol
i have a feeling that camaro went a lil faster than 12.37
AngryJ
11-19-2007, 02:54 PM
Y is a 10 second car running 11.50's ?Have you raced much at the track? Do you run your best time, every time?
where's the vid? how do we KNOW the lude won??? lol
i have a feeling that camaro went a lil faster than 12.37I guess you're joking about KNOWING the prelude won. Why would you think he's lying about the camaro's time ... denial that it was beaten by a Honda?
dochall22
11-19-2007, 03:21 PM
no i'm not joking
choppin-suey
11-19-2007, 03:21 PM
why would I lie about those cars, I personally know the owner of both of them? they happend to line up at the imports vs. domestics at MIR, the honda has been 10.6@ 138 while the maro has a cam,shorty headers,10 bolt,3:42 gears,28 inch tall tire and a 6 speed with a hurt clutch so yeah he runs like high 11's low 12's :D anyway the guy that won that class is another local guy and he won with a 10.08@15? with drag radials in a honda so yeah glen derty has some legit honda's as well as ls1's :devil:
AngryJ
11-19-2007, 03:53 PM
why would I lie about those cars, I personally know the owner of both of them? they happend to line up at the imports vs. domestics at MIR, the honda has been 10.6@ 138 while the maro has a cam,shorty headers,10 bolt,3:42 gears,28 inch tall tire and a 6 speed with a hurt clutch so yeah he runs like high 11's low 12's :D anyway the guy that won that class is another local guy and he won with a 10.08@15? with drag radials so yeah glen derty has some legit honda's as well as ls1's :devil:I don't understand why so many domestic car drivers have such an ignorant hate for Hondas. The engineering that goes into them is just as good if not better than most domestics.
dochall22
11-19-2007, 04:10 PM
i dont hate hondas, it's useless without a video, i could get on here and say i my moms rav4 out ran a lambo and have a pic of them both side by side at a track.... so i guess the rav4 won huh?
choppin-suey
11-19-2007, 04:24 PM
i dont hate hondas, it's useless without a video, i could get on here and say i my moms rav4 out ran a lambo and have a pic of them both side by side at a track.... so i guess the rav4 won huh?
useless without a video :eyes: there no video needed when the results are posted up right on line http://mirworldcupfinals.com/wcf/results_07.htm
they raced in true street,
160 ST 92 PRELUDE 2.2 ROGER QUAREOOPOME SEVERN MD 10.706 143.57 143.57
460 ST 98 CAMARO 346 CHRIS BATE SEVERNA PARK MD 12.370 117.96 117.96
take that :punch: :D
dochall22
11-19-2007, 04:49 PM
prelude ran an 11.52 and camaro 12.37
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/bfrieman/rogerlude6.jpg
there is no 11.52 prelude pass
choppin-suey
11-19-2007, 05:01 PM
there is no 11.52 prelude pass
they ran during qualifying but just the fastest qualifying time is recorded so the 11.5 wouldnt show up due to roger running a 10.7@143
trey1010
11-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Man, why would you doubt that the prelude won? Have you not ever been to the track? Everytime i go theres always a honda that runs an eleven or ten second quarter mile pass, so its not hard to believe.
StngKlr
11-19-2007, 06:39 PM
I don't understand why so many domestic car drivers have such an ignorant hate for Hondas. The engineering that goes into them is just as good if not better than most domestics.
I dont have ignorant hate for them, its just not my style. I could build two of my cars for the price of his and still be faster lol. Like another guy said... "To each their own".
Also, dont expect to see "lude" lovers on a mostly f-body site. ;)
:barf: LUDE
dochall22
11-19-2007, 07:08 PM
ludes are nasty - civics suck - if ur gonna built something thats ricey build something cool - do up an eclipse, or tiburon, or celica, or something other than preludes and civics
AngryJ
11-19-2007, 08:59 PM
ludes are nasty - civics suck - if ur gonna built something thats ricey build something cool - do up an eclipse, or tiburon, or celica, or something other than preludes and civicsI can understand building a 1g or 2g eclipse more so than a prelude ... but to say a tiburon or celica is a more worthy candidate than a prelude is rediculous. The H-series engines have seen nearly 900hp ... something only the 4G63 can top. To each his own, but your opinions suck :D
dochall22
11-19-2007, 09:02 PM
they all suck! buy a moped! My next project - to build a 10sec moped!!!
taner
11-19-2007, 10:36 PM
lol!!!!! that is awesome for the prelude owner! yes to each his own, and it looks like some people might be jealous here. i have a friend who sold his mid 11 sec. civic, man was that thing a hoot to drive! roasting tires grabbing 4th gear is something i thought not to many more cars than mine would do.
but this thread is the beauty of the internet :)
prelude_93vtec
11-19-2007, 10:56 PM
actually there is a vid DOCHALL!!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6gSW4UpwGiM
ludes are nasty - civics suck - if ur gonna built something thats ricey build something cool - do up an eclipse, or tiburon, or celica, or something other than preludes and civics
Preludes would beat any of those non turboed. preludes with a h22 have 200hp with 4 cylinders and fwd. eclipse have 210 with AWD and turbo. the rest are jus pretty much crap. im not a big fan of civics but gotta Give preludes respect. After all, the have been hondas "big block" throughout the 90's.
ls1_doc
11-20-2007, 01:59 AM
Have you raced much at the track? Do you run your best time, every time?
I guess you're joking about KNOWING the prelude won. Why would you think he's lying about the camaro's time ... denial that it was beaten by a Honda?
Ha your kidding right ? Ya iwas there this weekend actually. And i am pretty much never a full second off my time when i was going all out. Bad driver maybe ? :engarde: :D
black00ssFL
11-20-2007, 08:47 AM
Ha your kidding right ? Ya iwas there this weekend actually. And i am pretty much never a full second off my time when i was going all out. Bad driver maybe ? :engarde: :D
I've footbraked my car a little too much a few times trying to get better 60's. And just end up spinning out of the hole with a 2.5-7 60'. I clearly remember running a 13.6 on a night I was churning out a few 12.3-4's because of that.
AngryJ
11-20-2007, 12:09 PM
they all suck! buy a moped! My next project - to build a 10sec moped!!!Now you're talking. I want to see a wheel stand past the 330 marker!
Ha your kidding right ? Ya iwas there this weekend actually. And i am pretty much never a full second off my time when i was going all out. Bad driver maybe ? :engarde: :DFWD with high boost is an entirely different animal when you're coming out of the hole ... especially when you're making 500-600hp. For all we know he could have been running lower boost since it was a qualifying round.
2nd3rd4thgen
11-20-2007, 12:26 PM
eclipse are way slower than any honda they suck bad and every one of them think their cars are fast as hell i have respect for a fast honda but i have no respect for a eclipse...
AngryJ
11-20-2007, 01:05 PM
eclipse are way slower than any honda they suck bad and every one of them think their cars are fast as hell i have respect for a fast honda but i have no respect for a eclipse...I love Hondas much more than any Mitsu, but you aren't familar with Buschur, Shepherd, or AMS Racing are you?
Not to criticize ... but why not have respect for any fast car? Even if its a Kia with an LS1 swap. On a side note, I will say the 4G63 in eclipses, talons, and EVOs are not known for their reliability
cybernco
11-20-2007, 01:11 PM
The Prelude is obviously making a lot of power. They don't have a lot of room for wide front tires. How does he get good enough traction to put it to the pavement?
AngryJ
11-20-2007, 02:03 PM
The Prelude is obviously making a lot of power. They don't have a lot of room for wide front tires. How does he get good enough traction to put it to the pavement?rockhard suspension, traction bar, tall sidewalls, two step, anitlag, etc There are quite a few things that can be done to improve the launch of a FWD on high boost, I have no idea what his setup is. I'd guess he's pulling 1.6-1.7 60's though
ls1_doc
11-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Now you're talking. I want to see a wheel stand past the 330 marker!
FWD with high boost is an entirely different animal when you're coming out of the hole ... especially when you're making 500-600hp. For all we know he could have been running lower boost since it was a qualifying round.
Hmm never had a fast fwd before. Thanks for the info.
GMmexican
11-20-2007, 11:18 PM
Its the worlds fastest prelude
93supraTT
11-22-2007, 01:57 PM
I could build two of my cars for the price of his and still be faster lol. Like another guy said... "To each their own".
doubt it... ls1 parts are generally more expensive than honda parts from what i see...
either way... looks like the prelude was rollin out
prdtr15
11-22-2007, 03:12 PM
Nasty prelude roger
OD4gen
11-25-2007, 10:06 PM
I had a 94 Prelude for my first car. I loved it. Almost sold it and bought an LT1 Camaro, glad i didnt. I started looking at F-Bodies again, always liked them and always loved V8s. Found a great deal on a 99 Z28. I have to say i love this car twice as much as my old Lude already. It just has full exhaust, rest is completely stock (lid will be on soon). My Prelude did handle a hell of a lot better, but i had pretty nice suspension on it. Im anxious to see how this Camaro will handle with better suspenion. Ive always liked F-Bodies and good American muscle (not Mustangs) more than any import, but i do like some imports. Preludes are way cooler than Celicas and Tiburons and crap, those suck. Preludes are nice little cars. Hell mine with bolt ons rolled a 95 Mustang GT 5.0. It was ugly for him. It was my buddy and he had no excuses. He had some skinny chick in his car and i had my buddy whos 200+lbs. And Mustangs use the excuse that we have bigger displacement... My 2.2L rolled a 5.0L, whats their excuse for that?
But yea, you can make anything fast, but fast V8s are so much better than whiny little 4 bangers, no matter how fast they are. I guarantee that Prelude, and most other 4 bangers that fast spend a hell of a lot more money to get there than say LS1s do. You should have some respect for fast 4 bangers though.
NOTFAST
11-25-2007, 11:52 PM
sick whips
ErikElvis
11-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Meesa got a 4G63 FWD. Probably puttin down about 250hp (maybe). Its a fun car but FWD is no fun at the track. Especially with wheel hop that makes your wipers turn on.
ss1129
11-26-2007, 12:28 AM
So a honda thats capable of high 10s beat a low 12 high 11 camaro? Hmm thats post worthy. Import vs domestic is such a fucking waste of an event. The rules are ass.
2002_Z28_Six_Speed
11-26-2007, 01:00 AM
Mad h0nDa Powerz!! Prelude has came a little ways since the rust bucket GenI's!
dochall22
11-26-2007, 06:14 AM
Worlds Fastest eh???
prelude_93vtec
11-26-2007, 10:29 AM
yep ;)
dochall22
11-26-2007, 10:32 AM
right - i've seen street legals in the 9s
2002_Z28_Six_Speed
11-26-2007, 11:04 AM
You need some good axles to run like that.
streetassasin
11-26-2007, 11:12 AM
dochall stop being a dick
:thumb: nice runs in the "hon-duh" :jest:
95 Z28
11-26-2007, 11:16 AM
while the maro has a cam,shorty headers,10 bolt,3:42 gears,28 inch tall tire and a 6 speed with a hurt clutch so yeah he runs like high 11's low 12's
Sounds like a shit combo on the Camaro. Cool 'lude though...moves out pretty damn good.
AngryJ
11-26-2007, 12:43 PM
doubt it... ls1 parts are generally more expensive than honda parts from what i see...
either way... looks like the prelude was rollin outwhen i owned a 95 prelude I looked into building the block for high boost but the price tag was pretty bad. To run forged internals the block needs to be resleeved which is a good chunk of change. To make 500hp you'd have to drop a good $7-8k into the engine alone. 500hp in an LS1 costs maybe $3500... which is why I sold the prelude for the T/A and havn't dropped a penny into it :( Grant it the prelude weighs much less but will run the same times given the traction issues.
Bryan @ Speed Inc.
11-28-2007, 01:01 PM
I saw a Saturn run low 10's. (ok, they converted it to rwd and dropped a 350 in it, but still)
the red SC1 with stock saturn front wheels!
that thing is hilarious. :D
chrismorales75
11-29-2007, 11:58 AM
I'd like to see the turbo prelude race a turbo camaro.
Cam and 28" tires with stock gears, um call me stupid but that isn't right for a drag car.
AngryJ
11-29-2007, 12:19 PM
I'd like to see the turbo prelude race a turbo camaro.Why? To see an "equal" race?
2.2L turbo vs 5.7L turbo ... think about it
dochall22
11-29-2007, 12:20 PM
Thats the PRELUDE's problem, should have purchased something with more balls.
AngryJ
11-29-2007, 12:22 PM
Thats the PRELUDE's problem, should have purchased something with more balls.Not at all. Actually its the Camaros problem because he just lost to a 2.2L engine ... badly
Edit: on a side note ... I'd imagine there are maybe 50 street legal fbodys on this site trapping more than 143 mph. So how many Fbodys would that leave behind the prelude? I love Fbodys ... let me reiterate. I love everything fast. I don't see why there are so many import haters.
black00ssFL
11-29-2007, 01:04 PM
Not at all. Actually its the Camaros problem because he just lost to a 2.2L engine ... badly
Edit: on a side note ... I'd imagine there are maybe 50 street legal fbodys on this site trapping more than 143 mph. So how many Fbodys would that leave behind the prelude? I love Fbodys ... let me reiterate. I love everything fast. I don't see why there are so many import haters.
Simple minds are always scared of what they don't understand. And, therefore, show hatred to what they are scared of. Nothing scares and deflates the ego of a true blue blindly loving domestic fanboi more than losing to a honda.
FiredUpZ28
11-29-2007, 01:16 PM
i don't mind getting beat by an import. Makes me wanna mod more :)
ATVracr
11-29-2007, 01:36 PM
I'd imagine there are maybe 50 street legal fbodys on this site trapping more than 143 mph. So how many Fbodys would that leave behind the prelude?
I know the owner of the Prelude and its a badass street car.
But trap speeds do not win races ET does and the guys with Fbodies going 143 are much faster ET wise.
AngryJ
11-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Simple minds are always scared of what they don't understand. And, therefore, show hatred to what they are scared of. Nothing scares and deflates the ego of a true blue blindly loving domestic fanboi more than losing to a honda.A+++ ... would read again
AngryJ
11-29-2007, 02:26 PM
But trap speeds do not win races ET does and the guys with Fbodies going 143 are much faster ET wise.Thats a given :nod: The prelude is limited by the shitty FWD, which in my mind is its only downside.
edit: sorry for hawking the thread ... boredom at work and instant email updates have gotten the best of me
Pro Stock John
11-29-2007, 02:47 PM
Congrats 143 is haulin. I went 9.4 at that trap speed a few years ago but on 28" slicks.
PAT-LS2
12-24-2007, 07:14 PM
so true soooo true!!! not trying to be rude or anything but who would fix that up? I guess the same guy who would bring a chiwawa to a dog fight.. to each his own I guess but what I wanna know is why ur telling us telling us this last time I checked this was a LSX forum not a prelude honda forum
ludes are nasty - civics suck - if ur gonna built something thats ricey build something cool - do up an eclipse, or tiburon, or celica, or something other than preludes and civics
black00ssFL
12-24-2007, 07:55 PM
so true soooo true!!! not trying to be rude or anything but who would fix that up? I guess the same guy who would bring a chiwawa to a dog fight.. to each his own I guess but what I wanna know is why ur telling us telling us this last time I checked this was a LSX forum not a prelude honda forum
Didn't the 'lude race an LS series F-body?
AngryJ
12-26-2007, 10:03 AM
Didn't the 'lude race an LS series F-body?raced an LS1 Z28 ... and mopped up the floor with it. Looks like the camaro was the chiwawua in that dog fight :eyes:
PAT-LS2
12-30-2007, 08:06 PM
ok so he won? but at he end of the day he's still driving a nasty honda econo car u can make anything fast....
Tainted
12-30-2007, 08:33 PM
to all who say its just a honda in the end...
its still a honda, and its still faster than most of yall
wickedbluess
12-30-2007, 08:38 PM
Honda`s suck no matter how fast they are!!!!+1 on that:D
streetlegalls1
12-30-2007, 09:03 PM
to all who say its just a honda in the end...
its still a honda, and its still faster than most of yall
Hmm..what is still Honda under the hood?
NJSPDER
12-30-2007, 09:13 PM
for the love of christ!!! someone please close this thread. everyone is getting dumber reading it.
there is a quick honda in the world. whooppity fuckin doo!!
streetlegalls1
12-30-2007, 09:23 PM
Honda's are good cars but at the drag strip i think most of us on this site would rather see a f body or vette or anything RWD leaving front wheels up off the line,It gives that Daaaamn factor from the start to the finish + the sound of a V8 spinning up to 6,000 7,000 rpm or more:D
streetlegalls1
12-30-2007, 09:28 PM
for the love of christ!!! someone please close this thread. everyone is getting dumber reading it.
there is a quick honda in the world. whooppity fuckin doo!!
:funny:
gametech
12-30-2007, 10:17 PM
I don't hate Honda, I just hate FWD. One of my favorite rides is my RWD Honda (CBR1100XX). You have to love high 10sec 1/4 times AND almost 40mpg. It seems much more efficient than my GTO or Silverado.
cybernco
12-31-2007, 03:26 AM
You have to love high 10sec 1/4 times AND almost 40mpg. It seems much more efficient than my GTO or Silverado.
Bikes Rock!!!
But screw the MPG! I'm one from the muscle car era. I'd love my next engine to be the new 481 CID Warhawk. Check it out...
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/WarhawkShortBlockAssemblies.htm
Navy David SS
12-31-2007, 06:29 AM
This HAS gone on long enough. No --- nothing --- to do with drag racing times.. CLOSED
David