Manual Transmission - That stock T-56 sure can take a pounding!

Just got home from a rained out track rental, but before the rain hit, I got a new personal best!

http://avoronoff.hypermart.net/10.32.jpg

Stock T-56 tranny with 67K miles on it. Stock bottom end H/C and all the bolt ons.

Man, I know some can't get into the 11's with the stock unit, I don't know what guy/girl at the GM plant put mine together, But I sure as hell owe him/her a bottle of whatever he/she drinks!

As soon as I get a video, Ill post it up.

badass time man. So your running 10.3's with just h/c!!! Do you still have the stock rearend? Did you put gears in it? Congrats on that awsome time.

that is pretty awesome man congrats!!!

Congrats Alex, that is awesome!!! Time to update the sig!

!!! Do you still have the stock rearend? Did you put gears in it?
He has a 12 bolt.

Excellent driving Alex - great job!

i'm assuming a 12bolt right?

VERY nice times man~

Great shifting!

stock t56 ***!!!

Right on!!

Yup, Stock T-56

I have a 12-bolt with 4.56 gears and race on a 28x10.5 15S ET Drag. Launching at 6500+ and shifting at 7000RPM

What clutch you running?

Yup, Stock T-56

I have a 12-bolt with 4.56 gears and race on a 28x10.5 15S ET Drag. Launching at 6500+ and shifting at 7000RPM

to be trapping 132 with 4.56s and a 28" tire, youre turning 7200+ rpms across the line?

the stock bottom taking that is more impressive to me then the trans :D

Video!!! :nod:


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What clutch you running?

The new CARTEK clutch



to be trapping 132 with 4.56s and a 28" tire, youre turning 7200+ rpms across the line?

the stock bottom taking that is more impressive to me then the trans

Im hitting my 7200rpm limiter as soon as I cross the traps. Don't forget that a 28" slick will grow a little at 130+mph Call me a sick f*ck but I can tell if it was a good run by how quickly after the win light comes on I hit the limiter at the end. If I hit the limiter exactly at or right before the win light bulb lights up, I know it was a good run! lol

Video should be up tonight when I get home from work.

WOW man congrats on that time. Looks like that T56 is definitely a freak. More impressive that your stock bottom end is taking 7200rpm :eek:

WOW man congrats on that time. Looks like that T56 is definitely a freak. More impressive that your stock bottom end is taking 7200rpm :eek:

Well I remember Joe and Amber of SixSPeedsInc saying they spun their stock bottom end Camaro to 7600 or 7800rpm with their 10.1 run

thats badass! now lets see some vids!

I took my stock bottom end to 7100 10 times during my dyno runs...

Nice times. We ran 10.11 on a stock t56. It is a rush to shift at 7400rpms but the stock blockers don't like it forever:)

Keep up the nice times!

Amber

We spun our STOCK SHORT BLOCK CAM ONLY 8100rpms. Made 400 passes and I should have kept that. Instead we decided on our Project Crazy rpms since Joe is such a fan of large HP, NA 10K shifts:)

Good thing we are hitting the track friday. Lets see if she will turn 10,500:O

Amber

Glad it worked for somebody, lol.

I bent the main shaft with bolt ons and a spec 2...

Nice times. We ran 10.11 on a stock t56. It is a rush to shift at 7400rpms but the stock blockers don't like it forever:)

Keep up the nice times!

Amber

Now I know why you won't give me a FacePlated tranny... You're afraid Ill beat your times!

:D

hahahahaha j/k you guys rock!

Shoot, I will give you a face plated tranny. I have the parts in stock ready to install if you really want one. Just remember daily driving it is not the same:)

Although, as long as you have my tranny I don't care who beats my times. I just had a viper customer go 8.90@160 letting off at 1000ft mark about 3 weeks ago. WISH THAT WAS US:(

Amber

Shoot, I will give you a face plated tranny. I have the parts in stock ready to install if you really want one. Just remember daily driving it is not the same:)
Although, as long as you have my tranny I don't care who beats my times.


So sent me one! LOL Ill PM you my address LOL


I just had a viper customer go 8.90@160 letting off at 1000ft mark about 3 weeks ago. WISH THAT WAS US:(

Amber

It will be! I know you guys will do it!

Awesome times as always Alex! :nod:

And now, our feature presentation!

http://www.cartek.net/videos/Alex1032.wmv

Still room for some improvement on the 1-2 shift..

And now, our feature presentation!

http://www.cartek.net/videos/Alex1032.wmv

Still room for some improvement on the 1-2 shift..

Sick.

Nice video. Makes me sure glad I am going to the track this weekend if all works out.

Amber

how the hell do you shift so fast!?!?

And now, our feature presentation!

http://www.cartek.net/videos/Alex1032.wmv

Still room for some improvement on the 1-2 shift..

gotta give it to ya man, thats a sick vid :D

how the hell do you shift so fast!?!?

I love that damn CARTEK clutch! Its adjusted all the way up, so all I have to do is tap it to pull the next gear!

Plus, having 400+ [350 or so in mine] passes in various 6spd LS1's does also help. LOL

Here's an idea; put Alex in Joe's car (what does Joe weigh, approx.??), and watch the NA T56 record get obliterated!!

You drive/shift like a possessed man, Alex! :thumb:

Here's an idea; put Alex in Joe's car (what does Joe weigh, approx.??), and watch the NA T56 record get obliterated!!

You drive/shift like a possessed man, Alex! :thumb:

If I live in TX I would be aaaaaaall over that.

Hey, Joe and Amber, maybe you should bring that beast up to an Atco rental in the spring. Let me take a crack at it ;) LOL

I would love that!

what kind of shifter are u using??? hurst, pro 5.0?????

And now, our feature presentation!

http://www.cartek.net/videos/Alex1032.wmv

Still room for some improvement on the 1-2 shift..


Damn that's pretty sweet! Sleeping at the tree huh ;)

what kind of shifter are u using??? hurst, pro 5.0?????

Yes, Pro-5.0

Damn that's pretty sweet! Sleeping at the tree huh ;)

the people in the tower were sleeping instead of running the lights. lol

I would stage and it would take a good 20 seconds sometimes for them to start the lights. So I would not start rev'ing up until the lights were already coming down.

Plus, when I'm going to best ET, I want my launch RPM to be right on the dot, so sometimes it takes a second or two for me to get it to where I am satisfied. If you look at any of my runs when I set a best ET in my car or anyone else's, I always sit there when I'm good and ready.

what short stick??? sorry for the questions i jus wanna know how u shift so fast!

what short stick??? sorry for the questions i jus wanna know how u shift so fast!

No short stick, I have the original out of the box Pro-5.0

See thats the thing. I explained my "theory" based on simple Physics principals in another thread regarding "short sticks" for the pro-5.0 in this very forum not more then 2 weeks ago. Apparently I don't know what Im talking about because I was told I don't know how to shift and that maybe I should work out because I am not strong enough. Mind you the person who told me this was driving a 12second car I think.

If we study our history we will see that Archimedes said “Give me a place to stand and a lever long enough and I will move the world” Therefor I believe that the longer shifter stick, though less attractive inside the cabin allows me to shift faster because if I apply the same amount of force to a shorter lever as I do to a longer lever, the shorter lever will move slower and apply less force on the opposite end of the fulcrum, in this case the transmission.

Short sticks are crap IMHO, and if you want to shift fast, you don't need a short stick for your shifter, you need practice. But hey, maybe you should not listen to me, because at least according to that guy I don't know shit about racing a 6speed and am too week to shift fast. :eyes:

LOL

Trust me, use the stock shifter handle on your Pro-5.0 and go to the track, get practice and a good clutch like my CARTEK one, and you can shift like that too.

In fact, watching that vid, my 1-2 shift SUCKED! LOL

This was the post I was talking about:
.. the point of the short stick is self explanatory. its not for better looks, although they come as a bonus. the point is so you have a shorter throw for each shift, thus making them faster. go get some dumbells if you think its too hard to shift.

What say you know Mr b0pric01?

LOL thanks for explanation WS6....i'm always a fan of doing whatever i like best and ignoring what every one else "knows" to be true...haha

Another question:
When you said you have a Cartek clutch, do you mean the master cylinder? I find that my stock master takes FOREVER to engage and disengage when i'm trying to shift down the lane.

If you have a Cartek master, what kind of clutch disk/pressure plate/flywheel do you use, if you don't mind me asking of course....haha

LOL thanks for explanation WS6....i'm always a fan of doing whatever i like best and ignoring what every one else "knows" to be true...haha

Another question:
When you said you have a Cartek clutch, do you mean the master cylinder? I find that my stock master takes FOREVER to engage and disengage when i'm trying to shift down the lane.

If you have a Cartek master, what kind of clutch disk/pressure plate/flywheel do you use, if you don't mind me asking of course....haha

I don't mind at all...

I do have a CARTEK adjustable master, but I also have a CARTEK clutch. They designed their own clutch. Well this is their 3rd design. I have had the first 2 as well they were awesome, and was the test car for the 3rd. Seems to be working LOL :D

Short sticks are crap IMHO, and if you want to shift fast, you don't need a short stick for your shifter, you need practice.


That is what most people don't understand. The saying is true; practice makes perfect. Everyone wants to throw a bunch of parts at their car and have a fast car. You need to drive it and see what works to get the best times.

That is what most people don't understand. The saying is true; practice makes perfect. Everyone wants to throw a bunch of parts at their car and have a fast car. You need to drive it and see what works to get the best times.

Well, we do eventually push our cars faster then curtain components are capable of going. And if we do not upgrade them we will not be able to go faster. Clutches, suspension components, rears and so on all fall under that category. So it is possible to be limited by your equipment.

Honestly, I don't know if its possible for me to shift my tranny any faster then I am already doing. Thats when you have to go with something faster, but never an automatic, at least not in my case.

Well, we do eventually push our cars faster then curtain components are capable of going. And if we do not upgrade them we will not be able to go faster. Clutches, suspension components, rears and so on all fall under that category. So it is possible to be limited by your equipment.

Honestly, I don't know if its possible for me to shift my tranny any faster then I am already doing. Thats when you have to go with something faster, but never an automatic, at least not in my case.

I totally agree with needing to upgrade certain components. But what I meant was your car in my hands might be a 12 second car. I just don't have as much experience as you on the track. It takes practice to get your car to run the times that it's capable of.

I totally agree with needing to upgrade certain components. But what I meant was your car in my hands might be a 12 second car. I just don't have as much experience as you on the track. It takes practice to get your car to run the times that it's capable of.


:D

My first pass in my car when stock was 14.1 @ 101 After a year of trying the car ran 12.85 @ 111.22

The biggest change was my ability to launch and shift it, gained from the experience of going tot he drag strip.

:D

My first pass in my car when stock was 14.1 @ 101 After a year of trying the car ran 12.85 @ 111.22

The biggest change was my ability to launch and shift it, gained from the experience of going tot he drag strip.

Exactly. Congrats again, awesome run.

No short stick, I have the original out of the box Pro-5.0

See thats the thing. I explained my "theory" based on simple Physics principals in another thread regarding "short sticks" for the pro-5.0 in this very forum not more then 2 weeks ago. Apparently I don't know what Im talking about because I was told I don't know how to shift and that maybe I should work out because I am not strong enough. Mind you the person who told me this was driving a 12second car I think.

If we study our history we will see that Archimedes said “Give me a place to stand and a lever long enough and I will move the world” Therefor I believe that the longer shifter stick, though less attractive inside the cabin allows me to shift faster because if I apply the same amount of force to a shorter lever as I do to a longer lever, the shorter lever will move slower and apply less force on the opposite end of the fulcrum, in this case the transmission.

Short sticks are crap IMHO, and if you want to shift fast, you don't need a short stick for your shifter, you need practice. But hey, maybe you should not listen to me, because at least according to that guy I don't know shit about racing a 6speed and am too week to shift fast. :eyes:

LOL

Trust me, use the stock shifter handle on your Pro-5.0 and go to the track, get practice and a good clutch like my CARTEK one, and you can shift like that too.

In fact, watching that vid, my 1-2 shift SUCKED! LOL

Amen brother!!! I tried explaining that to so many people back in my 5.0 mustang days.
I loved making passes, then waiting in the pits for the guys to come up and ask.." how much nitrous you using?"..me "None." Them " How do you run so quick with an auto trans?" Me.."I dont." I love me the T5 and T56 transmissions!!

Amen brother!!! I tried explaining that to so many people back in my 5.0 mustang days.
I loved making passes, then waiting in the pits for the guys to come up and ask.." how much nitrous you using?"..me "None." Them " How do you run so quick with an auto trans?" Me.."I dont." I love me the T5 and T56 transmissions!!

People just don't listen man... they just don't

How is the feel of the Cartek mc? Is it a large bore master? Any increased pedal pressure?

Out of curiosity, what fluid are you running?

How is the feel of the Cartek mc? Is it a large bore master? Any increased pedal pressure?

Out of curiosity, what fluid are you running?

Since I got the CARTEK master cylinder at the same time I got the clutch, I can not honestly tell you what difference in feel the master did on its own. All I know is that it is a modified version of the factory master made to be adjustable and flow more volume of fluid in order to limit the over heating. The pedal pressure did increase over the stock unit with my first two CARTEK clutches, but with the new redesign, the pressure feels just a tad more then stock.

CARTEK filled the master with New Super DOT 610F synthetic brake fluid.
http://www.bakerprecision.com/neobrk.htm

That video pass was amazing. Awesome driving man!

Sounds like an automatic tranny, :bs:










j/k... are you letting off the gas between shifts? that car sounds too nasty, nice driving man :burn:

Sounds like an automatic tranny, :bs:

j/k... are you letting off the gas between shifts? that car sounds too nasty, nice driving man :burn:

No, not letting off the gas.. 100% throttle the whole way down

thats what i was thinking,too sick man, keep it up :)

Way to row them fuckin gears!

Alex, which transmission fluid do you run in that 'factory freak' T56??

Alex, which transmission fluid do you run in that 'factory freak' T56??

Its the factory/GM fluid dude, no clue what it is. :confused:

standard ATF!