General LSX Automobile Discussion - Went and looked at "Autotrader" 98 Formula

I pulled a trailer 275 miles today to buy a 98 Silver Formula. I was disappointed. If any one is looking at this car ask me some questions. Needless to say I came home with what I took. I got him down to $4700 on the phone but he didn't tell the hole story.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=233855460&dealer_id=55377736&car_year=1998&model=TRANSAM&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&start_year=1998&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=&make=PONT&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=37640&advanced=&end_year=1998&doors=&transmission=&max_price=5000&cardist=209

What was wrong with the car?

What was wrong with the car?

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Cant really see anything wrong with it in the pics.

yeah cant really see anything but he doesnt show the driver side probably a huge dent lol that would suck

what was exactly wrong with it?

C'mon, you have to tell us the story on it. You can't leave us on a cliffhanger like that.

If you look at all the listings from that dealer he has a 95 TA for 5k and that formula for 5k. That alone tells me there is SOMETHING wrong with the car.

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Well he didn't take any pictures of the drivers side. Dent on the front fender after he told me there wasn't any. Scratches on every panel of the car. The wing looked like someone had hauled a bicycle on it. Some dumbass took some kind of black adhesive that hardened like J.B. Weld and tried to glue the weather stripping on the outside of the drivers side door. This shit would have to be ground off and the whole door would have to be painted. He told me the dash wasn't cracked and it was. He took a good picture of the drivers side seat but didnt show the damage after he said it had modreate wear. Had about a 6" rip. Previous owner was a smoker and the car reiked of smoke and when he threw out his cigs they would land in the back seat and burn wholes in everthing. Wasn't sure about the oil pressure gauge because it went everywhere. And the rear end was on death row. The tires and wheels were nice like he said. Im sure i forgot something. Oh yeah I set in Atlanta traffic for 2 hours on the way home.

I would buy it for cheap for a drag car.

Just for the hell of it I'd sue him for your time and gas money under the guise that he obviously lied about the condition of the car to get you to come take a look at it.

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Thats kind of what I was trying to do. I have a 408 and a 6 speed and im trying to find something to put it in. Ive looked here and Ebay and Autotrader with no luck. I have a $4500 budget.

Just for the hell of it I'd sue him for your time and gas money under the guise that he obviously lied about the condition of the car to get you to come take a look at it.

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I would but I hate lawyers. I had a bad feeling on the way down there.

Does anyone know where else I can look on the web to find a cheap 4th Gen thats not ragged out.

craigslist!!! thats where i bought my car!! but beware of some of the assholes like u mentioned!! i had the same problem , i went to go look at a 98 black formula, and omg it was a knightmare, i know what u mean, i even drove like 80 miles away!

Thats kind of what I was trying to do. I have a 408 and a 6 speed and im trying to find something to put it in. Ive looked here and Ebay and Autotrader with no luck. I have a $4500 budget.

5.0 notchback. shell = 2gs.

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5.0 notchback. shell = 2gs.

craigslist!!! thats where i bought my car!! but beware of some of the assholes like u mentioned!! i had the same problem , i went to go look at a 98 black formula, and omg it was a knightmare, i know what u mean, i even drove like 80 miles away!


I bought my canoe on craigslist, got a great deal. It's not an auction so you can get stuff without out-bidding the next guy like ebay.

Thanks guys. Im going to check it out right now.

If I was going to build a project ls1 car, I'd put it in a non-ls1 for insurance purposes. Even if you could buy a v6 camaro or s10 or something, swap in the ls1, sell the v6 parts, and insure it as a v6 :secret2: That's my only regret about my car, is the insurance cost per year. It's really a good thing I'm real successful in traffic court too lol.

If I was going to build a project ls1 car, I'd put it in a non-ls1 for insurance purposes. Even if you could buy a v6 camaro or s10 or something, swap in the ls1, sell the v6 parts, and insure it as a v6 :secret2: That's my only regret about my car, is the insurance cost per year. It's really a good thing I'm real successful in traffic court too lol.

you could do that, but Id report it to my insurance so if it gets totaled/stolen you can insure it for additional money and not loose out your ass. Kinda like the kid on here a while ago who drove his car without insurance and his g/f pulled the E brake and screwed the car up. the little bit you will save wont be worth what you could pontentially loose. But yea Ive looked at some crappy cars and was completely lied to sucks, but keep your eyes open you will find on eventually

Come to think of it, another project car I'd like to do someday, a 93-97 ford t-bird with an LS1 in it. I have the t-bird yard ornament now...loved that car for over 100k miles, deluxe interior, 230/330 hp/tq rwd 4whl active independent susp., climate control, dual 8way leather buckets, power moonroof, handled and felt awesome for a big car. Sure it weighed 3800 lbs, but the 3.8 SC v6 was pretty quick. Since I started reading about the LS1, I always wanted to put an LS1 in mn12 tbird, but bought the z vert instead for the time being. I'd also like an s10 or el camino with an LS1 also.

As for a v6 camaro converted to LS1, I would bet the insurance would be cheaper for non z28/ss by the actuary tables. They really don't care which motor, just which model, I'd be willing to bet. I mean I would think the VIN code would determine the rate, even when you say it has a v8 in it I bet you'd get the non ss/z28 rate because of the VIN. Maybe not but if I had to guess I'd say the VIN determines the rate. I'll have to ask my hockey buddy about that or my stepfather, their the insurance gurus.

Thats kind of what I was trying to do. I have a 408 and a 6 speed and im trying to find something to put it in. Ive looked here and Ebay and Autotrader with no luck. I have a $4500 budget.

i got a 97 black ta im going to put up for sale soon i got a starter problem right now but it has a bunch of performance parts on it. pm if your wanting a older body style. im going to try to get 5000 for it.

If the car isn't what you wanted, why did you buy it? It's not like someone forced you into it...

Yeah right. When I got there he pulled a gun on me and demanded the money. I told him no but he said yes. So I give him $8000 for it. I DIDN'T BUY IT. You think I would have been crying like a baby on here if I would have bought it.:gtfo: