Sharpe

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On SDPC's Web page (http://www.sdparts.com/catalog/crate...teEngines.aspx), it says:

So, i don't know what the difference is or why they cost different amounts, but the "Pontiac F" looked like a steal, so I clicked on it.
It seems to me it's $3,551.11 for a complete, assembled long block, maybe minus the intake and coils, but with a 100K-mile limited warranty. That sounds like a pretty damn good deal if you have a 113K-Mile '99 Z28 like I do... Wonder if it has the 243 heads?

Am I missing something? Probably am.

Scoggin Dickey

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You're not missing anything. GM Goodwrench engines have the best warranty in the business! That warranty is also good at ANY, and yes I mean any, GM dealer in the nation! If you have a simple problem, take it to your dealer and they fix or replace what's wrong. Now some people complain that they don't trust their dealer....in some areas that's understandable and the service manager at the dealer can in some cases approve the warranty/labor to be done by an independent service facility!

ls1leadfoot

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that sounds allmost too good to be true.....i had probs with my dealership when i had around 9k on my car......fighting tooth and nail they finally took care of the prob.....this sounds like a nice warranty
100k!!!!!!WOW

Tainted

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243 heads only came on the z06 vette so sorry no 243 heads 4 u

BarneyMobile

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243's were also on the 4.8L truck motors and I think they're also on the new LS4 FWD V8 cars too.

Cole Train

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holy sh*t batman that's cheap. I didn't know that the 4.8 Truck engines have 243's. My truck is a 4.8 i would have just took them off the truck~Cole~

Scoggin Dickey

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And that's incorrect. 4.8L trucks got the same castings as the 5.3L trucks got.

The LS4 did have the same castings as the LS6/LS2 however, so you weren't completely wrong.

slimcracka

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does this warranty cover if you where to get the motor with a gm cam (asa , hot cam)?

Sharpe

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^Good question.

Also, if it doesn't come with the 243's then what heads does it come with?

And, what all doesn't come with this engine? There's so much I don't need, like coils, intake, manifolds...


My daily driver, my only car, is in the garage. Knock-knock-knock-knock!

Can't figure out a way to configure another engine for as much or less using your budget 346 shortblock ($2,789) even with Patriot's super Christmas heads/cam sale prices: CNC ported 243 castings with oem (non-sodium valves), Patriot Gold Dual springs, Patriot 225/229 .580"/.590" 114 lsa cam, oem head bolts, and hardened pushrods all for $1,395.That's $4,184 without oil pump (which I need) or timing chain...

dug

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any 6L short blocks available?

Sharpe

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SDPC,

Is this for one or a pair of LS6 (243) heads, and if so, would they bolt right up to your budget short block, and if so, what would be the cost of hainvg you do so?

If you get my drift, I'm trying to upgrade my LS1 and get a new one at the same time for the least amount of money possible.

Budget shortblock: $2,789.
SDPC Blueprinted Oil Pump: $150.
LS6 2002-2003 Cylinder Head Assembly: $750.
2002 and Newer LS1 / LS6 Head Gasket Kit: $26.
Head Bolt Kit, LS1 1997-2003, Kit for One Head (x2): $36

Sub total: $3,751
Labor: $???
Custom-grind Comp cam kit with hardened pushrods: $???
Labor for that installed: $???
Shipping to 62439: $???


Like I say, my only car/daily driver is down right now, so I'm no window shopper.

Scoggin Dickey

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Those are individual heads. But for a budget head, you could go with the LS2 heads instead and still get the great flow of the LS6....just with a slightly heavier valve in the head. They are a good bit less expensive too!

Sharpe

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Never mind...

Scoggin Dickey

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Sorry, they got removed from that page somehow. I added them back and updated the LS2 head's info!

nddragon01

SDPC,

For the LS2 heads you offer, are they shipped ready to be bolted on and go (minus the gaskets), or are there other parts needed before bolting them on (valves, springs, rods, etc.)?

Also, for the LS6 hollow stem valves, is that one package for BOTH heads, ALL valves? With that upgrade, are the LS2's basically LS6's at that point?

I'm asking because 1) the awesome steal of a deal on the LS2's and 2) I have a .562 lift cam in my car now (the LS6's state that they can only take a cam lift of .550 and less, so I'm guessing I can't go that route without having to get a new cam...)

Alan@XHP

We have a new 347 short block in stock. It has Mahle forged piston, Scat Forged Rod, and stock crank. All are engines are balanced and blueprinted for $2595.00 plus shipping. Just give us a call if you have any more questions. Alan

Sharpe

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Just responded to a fire in my company's 4-door cavalier... The guys gave me sooo much **** 'cuase they know I'm hating not haveing my Camaro!

Alan, thanks for the reply. Will be calling you.


Otherwise, for anyone who's following this, The above LS6 prices didn't include rocker arms (head prices never do, duh) and were for only one head. The assembled LS2 heads are $600 a pair and are part number 12576063. That changes the cost of my unofficial SDPC budget build to:

Budget shortblock: $2,789.
SDPC Blueprinted Oil Pump: $150.
LS2 Cylinder Head Assembly: $600
2002 and Newer LS1 / LS6 Head Gasket Kit: $26.
Head Bolt Kit, LS1 1997-2003, Kit for One Head (x2): $36
Rocker Arms and bolts: $???
Custom grind Comp cam: $???
Pushrods: $???


Gah, if I were smart, I'd just get the Goodwrench replacement for $3,551... That's just no fun.

Sharpe

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I hope it's ok to post this, but it's better for my records since I'm at work, and I think everything is list price...

But, here's my quote from Marty:

346 LS6 Economy block assembly.............$2789.00
LS2 head assembly........................2@....$299.95
Head Gasket kit............................Pr......$25.95
Cam and Head install kit.........................$279.95
Remaining gaskets and seals...................$42.31
Rocker Arms...............................16@....$10.49
High Pressure oil pump...........................$88.94
SD double row timing set........................$114.00
Lifters........................................... ......$99.95
Pushrods.......................................... ...$88.00 set

Total of parts........................................$4295 .84
Labor to install heads.............................$65.00
Freight charges.....................................$165.0 0
Total Charges.......................................$4,5 25.84

Thanks, SDPC!

VIPRETR2

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I have a question for SPDC on this motor just because I'm a curious cat Do these engines come with the "LS6" block with bay to bay breathing windows and improved oiling, or are they built with the 98-00 LS1 blocks? Thanks,

Larry

Sharpe

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I just want to say that Alan @ Xtreme Horsepower came at me with an ***-kicking quote on an assembled long block shipped, so righteous that I wouldn't even feel guilty about not purchasing the Goodwrech replacement engine...

Thanks, Alan!