ae13291

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hey guys im currently in a big rush to buy my headers and will go to the shop tomarow to purchase them, and i will be ordering pacesetter's black painted headers! i hear people say they are not good, but i am on a tight budget and it only rains in california, i dont live in a snowy place and no salt to worry bout either! sorry for posting a bunch of threads guys i just want to make the right decision. thanks

b00sted

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They'll peel and start to rust just from the constant heat cycling.

ae13291

iTrader: (8)

wow, really??? so there that bad!! so im guessing the extra $100 is worth the money

b00sted

iTrader: (7)

Ceramic coating is really the only way to go if you want them to stay nice. Mine were painted at one point I think...Now they're just surface rust.

ae13291

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yea i guess ur right i thought it would be a little different paint form the factory, cuz we painted my brothers headers on his car and they started rusting like ****! but we blamed our paint job for it lol

jetlag

iTrader: (32)

YES!!!

ae13291

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wow well ok thanks for the input guys! im really gonna need to borrow some cash from my parents to get all these parts my total spending with the new ceramic ones will now be $550!! y pipe,pacesetter LT's ceramic coat, prothane motor mounts!!

ae13291

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BTW i heard that the o2 sensors can be damaged from ceramic coating? is this true?

james562

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I have painted Hookers and wish I had the ceramic coating/stainless steel ones. I'd pay the 100.00 if I could do it again. The ceramic coating helps keep the heat out of the engine bay and keeps them looking nice as well.

BTW the pacesetter Y pipe is a piece of ****, the merge is a joke... Do yourself a favor and look for an alternative like the TSP or Hooker Y pipe or better yet an X pipe setup...

Grab a 20-50$ cutout and have it installed at the same time, you will love the sound difference and the 7-12 additional RWHP over running the exhaust back to the Chokemaster muffler.

Good luck LT's are fun I love my setup (dumped X pipe w/ 1 chamber flows) its just too loud for most....

bowe1632

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my y-pipe from pacesetter wasn't too bad...ive read where they are so terrible...i just dont see it that way. if it were terrible, id be the first to say that cause i dont pay 150 for terrible ****.

regorih383

iTrader: (21)

get the ceramic coated once!

1970judge

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MY opinion on them is buy coated. I bought painted for my LT1 car back when, and i hated them. They never looked terrible, it just would not dissipate heat like a good coated header will.

ls1leadfoot

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i know that the only advantage to them is they are cheeper.......if you are going to wrak them get black....otherwise get coated.....no diff in performance i dont think....never had painted though

8a8mfh

iTrader: (3)

I got painted pacesetters. The paint is really just there so they look good when you pull them out of the box.
The reason I got painted is because three reasons:
1. No one really gets under my hood and stares at my headers.
2. At the time I had some expensive JetHot coated headers on the nova in my sig and they were peeling and rusting.
3. I've never owned a coated header, and never had one rust through.
As for the Y Pipe I reached in mine with a carbide burr on a die grinder and 'ported' it, seems the hole they put in it is too small. Not that it even matters, two 3" pipes merging into a 3" pipe seems kinda pointless IMO.

ChocoTaco369

Stainless is the only way to go if you want them to stay nice. Coating just helps stave off the inevitable for a little longer.

Fact is, there's enough water vapor in the air and exhaust to rust coated headers, even if they never see rain, snow or road salt. Coated headers will more than likely be all rusty on the surface in a year, so imagine how bad painted will be.

robertbartsch

...mine were coated and are rusty in spots after a year or less. If I had to do it over, I would opt for stainless steel. Lots of OEMs use stainless for a good reason.

craz28

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headers are headers, coated or not they all pretty much do the same thing, to me the difference was minimal and I was on a tight budget like you. I got painted and never had a problem, they do their job and thats all I paid for.

LS1-NAVY

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the only good thing is the price but dont get them there crap

Cole Train

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man try finding headers for under $800 with Xpipe for a Vette only place i could find them was TSP and they are Coated, not painted. Very nice headers and X for $800 shipped. They aren't in yet but will be soon~Cole~

b00sted

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I bought used MAC mid-lenghts and a y-pipe once...I had them ceramic coated in a flat-black by a local company...They were the nicest looking headers I've had. I like them much more than the shiny silver ceramic coat. Now they're in my buddy's ws6 and still look great...They're holding up to the heat well. I think the next set of headers I buy I'll do them in flat black again.

Then again, I like the whole low-key look.