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Old 01-13-2008, 11:45 AM
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Question any benefits from changing from ms4 to g5x4 or the vindicator?

since its winter thinking about changing setups right now its a head/cam/intake/nitrous setup. would i gain anything from changing cams? right now i have a ms4 but have been looking at the g5x4 or the vindicator.
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MS4...........239/242 111LSA
Vindicator...240/244 112+4
G5X4......... but rumored to be very similar

Truthfully, they are all so similar, it wouldn't be worth the effort. The question is why do you want to change? What are you looking to gain from the swap?
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Originally Posted by hammertime
G5X4......... but rumored to be very similar
I dont get it....how are u supposed to know what ur getting?
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Originally Posted by GT Griller
I dont get it....how are u supposed to know what ur getting?
There are several vendors who feel that they put enough effort into R&D of their cams that they do not wish others to simply copy their work. Some here say its poor business practice and they would never buy a cam that they don't know every spec on. Others agree that the vendor has a right to keep the spec's under wraps. Plenty more buy the cam because the results (and/or hype) surrounding the product. To each their own...

The truth is, if the cam works, somebody is going to throw it on a cam doctor and eventually spill the beans. It's only a secret for so long. I know I've seen the specs for the G5X3 posted on the board, and they are incrementally larger than the G5X2. Many have assumed that the G5X4 is also incremementally larger, but I have never searched for the info.

At this time, all the cams in this discussion are larger than I would want to run anyway.
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Searched a few minutes and found this:
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
X3>>> 234/242 112/114 LSA
MS3 >>> 237/242 choice of LSA (111/112/113)
X4 >>> 240/244 111LSA (Like a MS4 on XE-R or should I say MS4 is like a G5X4 but with LSK lobe on intake)
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imo, its a waste of money switching from a shelf cam to a different shelf cam of similar size. If you really feel the need to switch cams, have PatrickG, Predator, FTI, Futral or any of the other known Cam gurus to spec you out a custom.

Or you can put the money towards more dyno time with the MS4. The bigger cams need more attention to max out than the smaller cams.
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I agree it took a week of driving and logging for my tuner to dial it in perfect.
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
since its winter thinking about changing setups right now its a head/cam/intake/nitrous setup. would i gain anything from changing cams? right now i have a ms4 but have been looking at the g5x4 or the vindicator.
I'm sure theres more power/trq in either of these 3 cams, but when and where will they out perform one another thru the rpm band and on the dyno and by how much? I would probably just leave what you got in it now, and just add more N20.
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not worth the time and effort or money
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
not worth the time and effort or money
I gotta say for this one.



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