Street Racing & Kill Stories - Bran new Roush 427R bites the dust,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 12:58 PM
alright so im on my way to best buy and i spot this car coming the opposite way, so i flip a bitch, and catch up, and just happen to be a stop sign, so i ask the guy to roll down his window, and then ask him if he wants to race, he said sure why not? anyways we went from a dig and he spun i hooked and i killed him by at least 5 cars, and i let off, we came up to another stop sign and he was pretty pumped and said damn your car is fast, i said that wasnt really a good race do you wanna go again, and he said hell yeah,
so i turn around and we go back up the hill from a stop this time he catches traction a little better than i do and he pulls my car a half car length and then i hold him right there, and it seemed every time he shifted gears i would gain a couple inches on him, and we did this to about 3rd, by the time we hit 100 , which is where we agreed to stop becasue of saftey or what have you, i had him by a fender, all in all nice car, but i was expecting to beat him by more lol, anywas i guess the supposedly 427 hp mustang cant handle gm's 6 year old 345 hp,
im just waiting to destroy the gt 500, all in time,
oh yea a list of my mods
1.fat driver
2.air freshner
3.nice paint
thats about it, the car is 100% bone stock,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 12:59 PM
oh its an 02ss m6
ta_06374
02-11-2008, 01:00 PM
lol your bone stock?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:03 PM
yes some may say that my car isnt, but it is, even has the stock slp lid,
no tb bypass, none of that bullshit, i had my speakers in my back and im pretty sure i was near full tank as well, which im sure that helped my traction situation
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 01:05 PM
^hes not gonna destroy any gt500's if he is.
OP, do u have spray?
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 01:11 PM
Did this dream happen last night sometime or during a mid afternoon nap?
PowershifterNC
02-11-2008, 01:14 PM
sounds like the guy couldn't drive...good killz none the less
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 01:16 PM
yes some may say that my car isnt, but it is, even has the stock slp lid,
no tb bypass, none of that bullshit, i had my speakers in my back and im pretty sure i was near full tank as well, which im sure that helped my traction situation
cough "gears" cough...lol
other than that he is stock...his car hooks and launches well...trust me i know first hand
BigDaddyBry
02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
You knew the Mustang Ladies Club was gonna roll in and defend...
Like I said before, I need to get me one of those air fresheners.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 01:18 PM
Did this dream happen last night sometime or during a mid afternoon nap?
Whodathunk it. That stopsign wouldnt believe this story.....:engarde:
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 01:19 PM
You knew the Mustang Ladies Club was gonna roll in and defend...
Like I said before, I need to get me one of those air fresheners.
Good for 25hp. :D
-98-Z28-Darkness-
02-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Nice....but remember zo6 rims give 100 hp! did you forget:D
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 01:28 PM
Nice....but remember zo6 rims give 100 hp! did you forget:D
Crap, must have.... hmmm... :secret2:
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Last edited by Stopsign32v : Today at 11:17 AM.
< First comment you made must not have been good enough, eh?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
lol, my 4.10 rear end blew up this weekend in santa maria ca, while street racing some dumb honda's still won lol, so yeah this is stock 3.42's, so this is a legit stock race, no nothing on this car
whatsgrip?
02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Nice....but remember zo6 rims give 100 hp! did you forget:D
That explain why my car feels slower when I installed my new rims :( Good kill:thumb:
LS1SS01
02-11-2008, 01:47 PM
Good kill. That guy deff needs the driver mod.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Good kill. That guy deff needs the driver mod.
i dont think so, he traded in a m5 for it, so he has had experience with fast cars, and he drove just fine from what i saw in my rear view mirror,anyone that can keep "427hp" sticking to the street with stock tires, and beat my car off the launch can drive pretty well, my car does low 1.8's on street tires, not great but deff not bad for stock,and i know when i hear a little pony being rung out to the limiter,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:52 PM
^hes not gonna destroy any gt500's if he is.
OP, do u have spray?
lol, the car is stock, i mean it has a k&n filter, so i guess not all stock, but pretty damn close,
and i dont know if you knew this but gt500's are the biggest joke since when stopsign said he got laid,
NVR KNO
02-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Good kill, but if you really are stock, youre not going to beat a GT500.... Unless the driver cant drive worth shit. But anything can happen on the street, so....
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 01:56 PM
yeah but i doubt u will be destroying any as long as youre stock.
i thought maybe u had spray cuz of the pics in your sig.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Good kill, but if you really are stock, youre not going to beat a GT500.... Unless the driver cant drive worth shit.But anything can happen on the street, so....
well i think differently, but we will find out, and yes anything can happen on the street,
NVR KNO
02-11-2008, 01:58 PM
If youve ran 1.8s, then what have you run in the 1/4? And are those 1.8s with the 4.10s or the 3.42s?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 01:58 PM
yeah but i doubt u will be destroying any as long as youre stock.
i thought maybe u had spray cuz of the pics in your sig.
oh yeah good point, no spray here,
NVR KNO
02-11-2008, 01:59 PM
well i think differently, but we will find out, and yes anything can happen on the street,
How can you think differently? GT500s are capable of bottom 12's.... A stock F-body isnt.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:03 PM
If youve ran 1.8s, then what have you run in the 1/4? And are those 1.8s with the 4.10s or the 3.42s?
i run 1.8's with the 3.42's, and the last time i went to a 1/4 track i had a 2.2 60', 8.9 1/8 and a 13.4 at 109
that was my first and last run at the 1/4 but that track is a dump. on the 1/8 mile track i go consistently stock
1.8 60, and 8.4 at 89mph, so i know my car can go 12's on a good 1/4 track
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:04 PM
How can you think differently? GT500s are capable of bottom 12's.... A stock F-body isnt.
because im big hairy american winning machine who doesnt accept defeat, hope that answers your question, you can spout off bullshit track times all you want, but when that signal light flips green, i doubt that car will catch me, im willing to bet on it too
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 02:07 PM
How can you think differently? GT500s are capable of bottom 12's.... A stock F-body isnt.
+1 ive raced 2 late model camaro's, no 3(i forgot about Tripblackls1), and i beat two of them. all i have is clutch, x pipe, and mufflers. the gt500 is a lil bit quicker than my car so u shouldnt get your hopes up too much whenever u run into a gt500.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:07 PM
You run 13.4@109mph and you are going to destroy GT500s. LOL
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 02:09 PM
i doubt that car will catch me, im willing to bet on it too
damn this guys really confident in his stock car...........or maybe he has some spray hidden.
NVR KNO
02-11-2008, 02:10 PM
Im pretty sure track times is what wins the race.... Maybe its just me. A possible high 12 sec 1/4 isnt gonna do shit against a GT500.
NVR KNO
02-11-2008, 02:10 PM
damn this guys really confident in his stock car...........or maybe he has some spray hidden.
I hope he didnt hit the spray with a 13.4....:eyes:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:15 PM
You run 13.4@109mph and you are going to destroy GT500s. LOL
thats right, so far my mesely 13.4 which btw was my first time at the track with my new car, and obvioulsy my outstanding 60" has taken a srt 8 jeep on spray, handsfull of cobras and evos, and yeah new to the list a roush 427r, feels good if i might say so
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 02:15 PM
haha.... dude, get real.... your stock f-body isn't going to touch a GT500 - end o' story
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:16 PM
+1 ive raced 2 late model camaro's, no 3(i forgot about Tripblackls1), and i beat two of them. all i have is clutch, x pipe, and mufflers. the gt500 is a lil bit quicker than my car so u shouldnt get your hopes up too much whenever u run into a gt500.
i never get my hopes up, when street racing shit happens, just feels good to beat "fast" mustangs when we all know they overrated a tiny bit, by oh say 40-50 hp,
except the 03-04 cobras those cars are sick
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 02:17 PM
what's next? a c6 z06?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:17 PM
I hope he didnt hit the spray with a 13.4....:eyes:
yeah, um... i dont have nitrous, if you want to think so thats cool. people have searched for it before, and still dont believe me
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:19 PM
haha.... dude, get real.... your stock f-body isn't going to touch a GT500 - end o' story
ah huh.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:19 PM
what's next? a c6 z06?
no, thats an actual fast car, not like the crap ford puts out
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:22 PM
Face it your car is slow and would be lucky to outrun a STOCK Evo... LMAO
GT500.... :rotflmao:
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 02:23 PM
no, thats an actual fast car, not like the crap ford puts out
I think you can hardly classify what ford puts out as "crap"... I agree that mustang GT's aren't going to keep up with a LS1 f-body, but nor was it their intention....
a terminator will hand you your ass, like it or not.... So what makes you think you will keep up with an even faster GT500?
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 02:25 PM
as much as it hurts me to side with the mustang guys, you're getting yourself in tooo far over your head by thinking you can start to take on snakes... atleast ones with a somewhat decent driver
Evilways
02-11-2008, 02:26 PM
Actually, I'd say 80% of stock Gt500 owners would be happy to get low 13's. Many can't drive their way outta a taco bell. A stock GT500 with all the nannies on and on the street, from a dig, has as much chance of beating a forth gen f-body as the f-body has of beating it. At the track, with nannies off, the GT500 get's the nod, but only with a more experienced driver. Yes, the Gt500s are mid 12's cars stock, but thats not what the everyday driver gets out of them. Even the "best" mustang test driver ,Evan Smith, only pulled a 12.28 outta one, and that was after many tries and many mid range 12's, and it was a one time 12.28, not consistant. The GT500 is not the world beater Ford would have liked everyone to think it is,nor will be the KR(605bhp, 12.5 sec. magazine test..lol). Anyways, had the OP said he bested an early 2000's (03ish) Cobra, I'd probally say BS, but being a 427R, I'd say it's more than possible. The 427's are a bit slower than the GT500.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:27 PM
Actually, I'd say 80% of stock Gt500 owners would be happy to get low 13's. Many can't drive their way outta a taco bell.
So whats your point? 90% of the old men that drive Vettes can't get out of the mid 13's. :gtfo:
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 02:31 PM
a terminator will hand you your ass, like it or not.... So what makes you think you will keep up with an even faster GT500?
lmfao!!!! ..........but seriously, i think the OP might just be messing with us.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:32 PM
I think you can hardly classify what ford puts out as "crap"... I agree that mustang GT's aren't going to keep up with a LS1 f-body, but nor was it their intention....
a terminator will hand you your ass, like it or not.... So what makes you think you will keep up with an even faster GT500?
lol, ah huh, i have proven otherwise, its okay thou,
even so, i race a new gt500 and get smoked, big deal, i guess then its time to mod my car,
im not on here saying that my car is faster than a gt500, hardly, im cocky but not stupid, i'm simply saying that i want to race one on the street, and beat it, i think its possible, from driver error or what have you, isnt that what racing is about anyways? who;s the better driver, i know hp advantage will help, i got a tall order stacked up against me, but i think i can do it
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:35 PM
So whats your point? 90% of the old men that drive Vettes can't get out of the mid 13's. :gtfo:
lol, whats your point, id day 99% of mustang drivers are 16 year old girls and the other 1% are little pansy ass mexicans in their 80's 5.0,
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 02:35 PM
Good kill and all, but just because you beat a driver does not mean you have the faster car. Food for thought ;)
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:35 PM
my bad on the gears...i didnt know u blew ur rearend until after i read this thread...
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 02:35 PM
Face it your car is slow and would be lucky to outrun a STOCK Evo... LMAO
GT500.... :rotflmao:
well a stock ls1 isnt slow, but its not enough to take down a 500
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 02:36 PM
lol, whats your point, id day 99% of mustang drivers are 16 year old girls and the other 1% are little pansy ass mexicans in their 80's 5.0,
Watch that bullshit :gtfo:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:37 PM
Good kill and all, but just because you beat a driver does not mean you have the faster car. Food for thought ;)
hmmm... i think i said that a few posts ago, but yeah i agree 100%,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:37 PM
my bad on the gears...i didnt know u blew ur rearend until after i read this thread...
not a prob,
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:38 PM
1% are little pansy ass mexicans in their 80's 5.0,
Go back to your trailer park and keep the racism out of here. :mad:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:38 PM
laugh it up,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Watch that bullshit :gtfo:
hahhaha, guess no one here can take a joke
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Good kill and all, but just because you beat a driver does not mean you have the faster car. Food for thought ;)
267rwhp FTW LOL!!!!!!!!!!! dont post that bro...its like talking to a bunch of hot chicks about ur 3inch penis...they dont want to see it!LOL... just a lil food for thought:D
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:40 PM
hahhaha, guess no one here can take a joke
Your racist bullshit is far from a joke. :gtfo:
2006vette
02-11-2008, 02:40 PM
I don't find the OPs story unbelievable. I am not impressed with the 427. We ran one not to long ago in my buddies Terminator and pulled over full car on it. (35-110) He was stock at the time.
Good luck with the GT500 though. :eyes:
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 02:41 PM
lol, ah huh, i have proven otherwise, its okay thou,
even so, i race a new gt500 and get smoked, big deal, i guess then its time to mod my car,
im not on here saying that my car is faster than a gt500, hardly, im cocky but not stupid, i'm simply saying that i want to race one on the street, and beat it, i think its possible, from driver error or what have you, isnt that what racing is about anyways? who;s the better driver, i know hp advantage will help, i got a tall order stacked up against me, but i think i can do it
now y didnt u say that a long time ago?
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 02:41 PM
267rwhp FTW LOL!!!!!!!!!!! dont post that bro...its like talking to a bunch of hot chicks about ur 3inch penis...they dont want to see it!LOL... just a lil food for thought:D
That was pretty uncalled for, and shows your lack of class and tact. I never brought my car up, first of all. And I've beaten things I shouldn't have as well. So even though I know it's gonna be hard for you, try to not be such a dick for no reason :gtfo:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Your racist bullshit is far from a joke. :gtfo:
lol, well,, i guess i can make fun of mexicans all i want, my family wouldnt agree, but what the hell,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:44 PM
now y didnt u say that a long time ago?
probably should have,
oh well, im glad we came to an agreement
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:45 PM
That was pretty uncalled for, and shows your lack of class and tact. I never brought my car up, first of all. And I've beaten things I shouldn't have as well. So even though I know it's gonna be hard for you, try to not be such a dick for no reason :gtfo:
8IIIID put it away!!!LOL
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:46 PM
8IIIID put it away!!!LOL
How much does your LS1 make to the tires?
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:46 PM
lol, well,, i guess i can make fun of mexicans all i want, my family wouldnt agree, but what the hell,
i am 1/2 mexican and dont take any offense...prolly cuz the stereotype is true...get over it people
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:47 PM
How much does your LS1 make to the tires?
guess...:D
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:47 PM
i am 1/2 mexican and dont take any offense...prolly cuz the stereotype is true...get over it people
i speak the truth lol
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 02:48 PM
he may just have one of those factory freaks chill out guys i think he has better things to do than lie about a kill
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 02:49 PM
guess...:D
268rwhp 311rwtq
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 02:50 PM
268rwhp 311rwtq
LOL...guess again
Evilways
02-11-2008, 02:55 PM
So whats your point? 90% of the old men that drive Vettes can't get out of the mid 13's. :gtfo:
Hardly 90%, junior..I'd say with the current C6 generation, it's more of a 50/50 split between the Shine and Show crowd and the Drivers/Racers as owners. Don't want anyone here to get butt hurt by this, but the GT500 and all the current 427R/S281/Roush/Boss/Saleen/etc.... versions of the car are wayyyyyyy over-rated , over weighted, and underpowered to be real contenders as stock cars in today's autoworld. They do take to mods well and dyno well, but the track and street tell the story.
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 02:55 PM
268rwhp 311rwtq
hes got a camaro not a mustang
268 get real
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 02:55 PM
he may just have one of those factory freaks chill out guys i think he has better things to do than lie about a kill
thank you,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Hardly 90%, junior..I'd say with the current C6 generation, it's more of a 50/50 split between the Shine and Show crowd and the Drivers/Racers as owners. Don't want anyone here to get butt hurt by this, but the GT500 and all the current 427R/S281/Roush/Boss/Saleen/etc.... versions of the car are wayyyyyyy over-rated , over weighted, and underpowered to be real contenders as stock cars in today's autoworld. They do take to mods well and dyno well, but the track and street tell the story.
well put
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 03:02 PM
LOL...guess again
well come on... tell us....
we're all awaiting the gigantic numbers you're going to post
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:05 PM
Hardly 90%, junior..I'd say with the current C6 generation, it's more of a 50/50 split between the Shine and Show crowd and the Drivers/Racers as owners. Don't want anyone here to get butt hurt by this, but the GT500 and all the current 427R/S281/Roush/Boss/Saleen/etc.... versions of the car are wayyyyyyy over-rated , over weighted, and underpowered to be real contenders as stock cars in today's autoworld. They do take to mods well and dyno well, but the track and street tell the story.
So all Vette drivers are ex/currect race car drivers? LOL get real :gtfo:
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 03:06 PM
no hes saying that about 50 percent of c6 drivers are good at driving the other 50 is the old generation that get them for show
SonofaBish
02-11-2008, 03:07 PM
So all Vette drivers are ex/currect race car drivers? LOL get real :gtfo:
no, he was saying that 50% care about show only, and the other 50% care about "go".....
it was hard to understand, but i got it.....
not so sure i agree, but i understand what he was trying to get across
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:07 PM
hes got a camaro not a mustang
268 get real
ooh man the verbal diarrhoea is back in the house. :barf:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:08 PM
So all Vette drivers are ex/currect race car drivers? LOL get real :gtfo:
your probably a 14 year old boy with down syndrome, nothing you say makes sense and you use that stupid smiley quite often, i guess it kind of lost its meaning, well anyways, just letting you know what you look like on the internet
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:09 PM
well put
your arrogant and i hope you get your doors blown off by a civic (something i wouldnt wish apon many)
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:10 PM
your probably a 14 year old boy with down syndrome, nothing you say makes sense and you use that stupid smiley quite often, i guess it kind of lost its meaning, well anyways, just letting you know what you look like on the internet
Was that your best attempt at trying to own me? :gtfo: Go see if you can find a new Viper to crush with your "factory freak".
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:10 PM
ooh man the verbal diarrhoea is back in the house. :barf:
lol, probably should learn how to spell before opening your mouth,
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 03:10 PM
your probably a 14 year old boy with down syndrome, nothing you say makes sense and you use that stupid smiley quite often, i guess it kind of lost its meaning, well anyways, just letting you know what you look like on the internet
stopsign is the ass of most threads
he is here to get under peoples skin he gets off by people getting pissed
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Was that your best attempt at trying to own me? :gtfo: Go see if you can find a new Viper to crush with your "factory freak".
i guess i better, and it was hardly an attempt at anything, but just a educated evaluation.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:11 PM
stopsign is the ass of most threads
he is here to get under peoples skin he gets off by people getting pissed
No, actually I'm just your daily dose of "wake the fuck up". :D
ICEMAN 31
02-11-2008, 03:12 PM
268rwhp 311rwtq
lol I have seen about 30 - 40 ls1 do dyno pulls at my uncles shop and never have I seen one do 268rwhp, hell I have never seen one do less than 285RWHP and seen quite the few in the 310-15 range
my guess is 340rwhp + thats if one of his bolt on isnt a bottle ha
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:12 PM
lol, probably should learn how to spell before opening your mouth,
what was spelled incorrectly?
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 03:13 PM
No, actually I'm just your daily dose of "wake the fuck up". :D
no i doubt that i am up your a douche and you know it...everytime you are in a thread somone says somthing bad about you
this thread will be locked soon lol
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:13 PM
your arrogant and i hope you get your doors blown off by a civic (something i wouldnt wish apon many)
lol, im sure that day is coming,
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:13 PM
lol, probably should learn how to spell before opening your mouth,
So now you are forced to settle with spelling corrections? Whats next grammar? Why don't you talk down his car? You would own him in a race right?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:14 PM
ooh man the verbal diarrhoea is back in the house. :barf:
lol, umm^^^^^
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:14 PM
lol I have seen about 30 - 40 ls1 do dyno pulls at my uncles shop and never have I seen one do 268rwhp, hell I have never seen one do less than 285RWHP and seen quite the few in the 310-15 range
my guess is 340rwhp + thats if one of his bolt on isnt a bottle ha
Thats insane numbers!!! Good God, put up your Ferraris and Porsches!!! :eek:
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:14 PM
no i doubt that i am up your a douche and you know it...everytime you are in a thread somone says somthing bad about you
this thread will be locked soon lol
it will because of you :barf: and the spewing of the mouth.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:15 PM
no i doubt that i am up your a douche and you know it...everytime you are in a thread somone says somthing bad about you
this thread will be locked soon lol
I'm on a LS1 site...it is expected. I get over it as fast as I read it, why don't you?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 03:15 PM
So now you are forced to settle with spelling corrections? Whats next grammar? Why don't you talk down his car? You would own him in a race right?
i dont know, its the street after all,
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 03:15 PM
O NO!!! this thread is getting out of hand...LOL
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:16 PM
lol, umm^^^^^
lol umm why dont ya look up the spelling of the word before you accuse people of it being wrong.
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 03:16 PM
it will because of you :barf: and the spewing of the mouth.
you say that about everyone too that we have diarrhea of the mouth and shit not just me but everyone is arguing including you
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:16 PM
O NO!!! this thread is getting out of hand...LOL
So how much power does your monster have?
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 03:17 PM
So how much power does your monster have?
KEEP GUESSING...lets go stick with the program here
artist71
02-11-2008, 03:18 PM
Hardly 90%, junior..I'd say with the current C6 generation, it's more of a 50/50 split between the Shine and Show crowd and the Drivers/Racers as owners. Don't want anyone here to get butt hurt by this, but the GT500 and all the current 427R/S281/Roush/Boss/Saleen/etc.... versions of the car are wayyyyyyy over-rated , over weighted, and underpowered to be real contenders as stock cars in today's autoworld. They do take to mods well and dyno well, but the track and street tell the story.
I agree..100%. But those special mustangs look so good!! Especially the Roush Stage 3. I mean how often do you get to race? Not often...you spend the rest of the time cruisin...and a roush and 427 look good cruisin. At least as good as a C6 IMO.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:19 PM
KEEP GUESSING...lets go stick with the program here
lol someone ashamed of posting up their numbers.
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 03:19 PM
yea but your ingnorance is annoying. you are an lsx nutswinger. yes ill be the 1st person to say that they are a great motor and a good platform but some of you guys are insane fanboys
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 03:24 PM
lol someone ashamed of posting up their numbers.
thats not right either...come on twinkle toes!!! keep guessing:D
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 03:24 PM
yea but your ingnorance is annoying. you are an lsx nutswinger. yes ill be the 1st person to say that they are a great motor and a good platform but some of you guys are insane fanboys
the cobra is badass too i would take a 0304 without question
we just all argue way to much on this site its retarted
Evilways
02-11-2008, 03:38 PM
Mustangs just aren't my taste, but I'd go with a 03-04 cobra over a GT500 anyday, but the "Blackjack" Roush I ran once was nice looking....slow, but it looked cool. Hardly a "nutswinger" for the LSX as I also have a SRT8 Charger and would love to have a Ferrari F430 .
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Mustangs just aren't my taste, but I'd go with a 03-04 cobra over a GT500 anyday, but the "Blackjack" Roush I ran once was nice looking....slow, but it looked cool. Hardly a "nutswinger" for the LSX as I also have a SRT8 Charger and would love to have a Ferrari F430 .
On a completely different subject, I've wondered about your sig... haven't stock/stock-tired C6 Z06s put up as quick as 11.2s? :confused:
whatsgrip?
02-11-2008, 03:45 PM
On a completely different subject, I've wondered about your sig... haven't stock/stock-tired C6 Z06s put up as quick as 11.2s? :confused:
Im guessing he means C6...... or I could be wrong :(
Evilways
02-11-2008, 03:48 PM
On a completely different subject, I've wondered about your sig... haven't stock/stock-tired C6 Z06s put up as quick as 11.2s? :confused:
Actually, stock tire/stock Z's have hit the 10's a couple of times at over 126-127MPH. Mine is an stock ci LS2 on factory stock runflats. It's the only C6 (not C6Z06) to hit that ET with a N/A setup and on the factory tires.
Stopsign32v
02-11-2008, 03:49 PM
Mustangs just aren't my taste, but I'd go with a 03-04 cobra over a GT500 anyday
Good for you?
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 04:11 PM
Actually, stock tire/stock Z's have hit the 10's a couple of times at over 126-127MPH. Mine is an stock ci LS2 on factory stock runflats. It's the only C6 (not C6Z06) to hit that ET with a N/A setup and on the factory tires.
Ok... well then wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "Quickest N/A, stock tire, non-Z06 C6 listed in the country?"
BigDaddyBry
02-11-2008, 04:18 PM
Damn, the Mustang Ladies Club is representing.
Speaking of the special versions of this gen Mustang, I saw that Saleen S302E and it looks badass.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/11/in-the-autoblog-garage-2008-saleen-s302-extreme/
artist71
02-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Holy hell...that does look nice! I had no seen the S302E!
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 04:35 PM
the new one don't do to much for me i like the 99 -04 style much more
TFPracing
02-11-2008, 04:36 PM
03-04 over the gt500 boat anyday.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 04:38 PM
yea but your ingnorance is annoying. you are an lsx nutswinger. yes ill be the 1st person to say that they are a great motor and a good platform but some of you guys are insane fanboys
lol i will agree that some portion of every car are a bunch of posers, more so then others,
however, everyone in this thread including myself are not nut swinging fan boys. some of us actually wrench and build our own cars, myself included, so think before you go running your mouth about this and that on an ls1 site,
thanks for agreeing that the ls1 is a good platform, the 32v is a better one if i might say so, but just not my taste,
ThisBlood147
02-11-2008, 05:04 PM
Damn, the Mustang Ladies Club is representing.
Speaking of the special versions of this gen Mustang, I saw that Saleen S302E and it looks badass.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/11/in-the-autoblog-garage-2008-saleen-s302-extreme/
Yea, I don't think Saleen has officially started rolling the 302's off the lot yet. But it definitely grabs me in every way a hell of alot more than any Roush made to date. The Roush is, pretty much like everyone here says.........pretty but slow (even the s/c ones).
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 05:50 PM
lol i will agree that some portion of every car are a bunch of posers, more so then others,
however, everyone in this thread including myself are not nut swinging fan boys. some of us actually wrench and build our own cars, myself included, so think before you go running your mouth about this and that on an ls1 site,
thanks for agreeing that the ls1 is a good platform, the 32v is a better one if i might say so, but just not my taste,
i agree my point was that the lsx isnt the end all motor. some people on this board are blind to the idea that something can be faster. as far as the 32 valve being better im not so sure. both lsx motors and dohc motors are great but it would be better if you could sorta combine the two. lsx is great because of the amount of cubin inches you can generate. a dohc motor uses very good heads to compensate for the lack of cubic inches. also due to the design of the modular block you really cant do much in adding cubic inches just more boost. if you could get 400+ cubic inches and add a set of doch heads then youd be in business.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 06:29 PM
and i dont know if you knew this but gt500's are the biggest joke since when stopsign said he got laid, :werd:
Good kill, but if you really are stock, youre not going to beat a GT500.....
Not true. I hung dead even with a Shelby GT500 from 70-140 when my car was bone stock. (except k&n filter, as well) :D
Face it your car is slow and would be lucky to outrun a STOCK Evo... LMAO
GT500.... :rotflmao:
:STFU:
Stock Evo- Beat
STi with mods- Beat
GT500 - Dead even
Stock 03 Cobra- Beat
...shall I continue my list?
:supergay: you're a feg dude
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Not true. I hung dead even with a Shelby GT500 from 70-140 when my car was bone stock. (except k&n filter, as well)
thats superawesomebadasseffinsweet man!! hey.....hey.......u know what i can do..........i can drift my cobra at 137 mph!
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 06:44 PM
i agree my point was that the lsx isnt the end all motor. some people on this board are blind to the idea that something can be faster. as far as the 32 valve being better im not so sure. both lsx motors and dohc motors are great but it would be better if you could sorta combine the two. lsx is great because of the amount of cubin inches you can generate. a dohc motor uses very good heads to compensate for the lack of cubic inches. also due to the design of the modular block you really cant do much in adding cubic inches just more boost. if you could get 400+ cubic inches and add a set of doch heads then youd be in business.
I dont think a big DOHC motor would "put you in business" as you say.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 06:46 PM
thats superawesomebadasseffinsweet man!! hey.....hey.......u know what i can do..........i can drift my cobra at 137 mph!
Do you guys honestly think that a strong running LS1 could hang wit ha weak running 500? Come on guys. And you guys talk about nuthugging here. :eyes:
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 06:46 PM
thats superawesomebadasseffinsweet man!! hey.....hey.......u know what i can do..........i can drift my cobra at 137 mph!
Wow. You little girl. You said it couldn't be done, so I came in here and vouched for Camarojunky, because, believe it or not you mustang feg, your little F/I Pusstangs can be beaten! :D
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 06:53 PM
:werd:
Not true. I hung dead even with a Shelby GT500 from 70-140 when my car was bone stock. (except k&n filter, as well) :D
:STFU:
Stock Evo- Beat
STi with mods- Beat
GT500 - Dead even
Stock 03 Cobra- Beat
...shall I continue my list?
:supergay: you're a feg dude
Good kill and all, but just because you beat a driver does not mean you have the faster car. Food for thought ;)
;). Yes it is always possible to beat something that you *shouldn't* beat. But you have to acknowledge in those instances that you probably *shouldn't* have won.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 06:55 PM
;). Yes it is always possible to beat something that you *shouldn't* beat. But you have to acknowledge in those instances that you probably *shouldn't* have won.
The only race of the four I posted that I believe I maybe shouldn't have won, is the one against the Gt500, but if you read above, I NEVER said I beat him, said it was dead even.
Evilways
02-11-2008, 07:04 PM
Just remember--when you race, you race both the driver and the car. Without a driver, the car doesn't do shit.Without a car, it's a foot race.:D
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:05 PM
I dont think a big DOHC motor would "put you in business" as you say.
and why not?
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:11 PM
The only race of the four I posted that I believe I maybe shouldn't have won, is the one against the Gt500, but if you read above, I NEVER said I beat him, said it was dead even.
:swing::swing::swing::swing::sack::sack::sack:
i dont care what ya say a 03/04 cobra is faster than an fbody hands down bottom line and i dont give a rats ass if i need boost to beat ya. the cobra ya raced probably never took it outa 6th gear and it was probably running on 6 cylinders with a slipping clutch.
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 07:12 PM
The only race of the four I posted that I believe I maybe shouldn't have won, is the one against the Gt500, but if you read above, I NEVER said I beat him, said it was dead even.
So you really think a stock F-body *should* beat an '03 Cobra? And considering STis have gone high 12s stock, I'd say one that had any useful mods should atleast hang RIGHT with you, unless you're going from a 60-70mph roll of course. They get very quick with minimal mods.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 07:15 PM
i dont care what ya say a 03/04 cobra is faster than an fbody hands down bottom line and i dont give a rats ass if i need boost to beat ya. the cobra ya raced probably never took it outa 6th gear and it was probably running on 6 cylinders with a slipping clutch.
Right, 6th gear and 6 cylinders. I wasn't the only one to beat him that night. An 01 SOM SS pulled him too, so, :gtfo: with your Pusstang. I swear, you guys will never admit defeat. :punch:
01 SOM SS - LT's, ORY, No cats, lid, Catback, and other little HP adders, M6, clean engine mod, driver mod
02 Firehawk - Mids, ORY, no cats, lid, stock catback, M6, clean interior mod, driver mod as well
:gay: you feg.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 07:16 PM
So you really think a stock F-body *should* beat an '03 Cobra? And considering STis have gone high 12s stock, I'd say one that had any useful mods should atleast hang RIGHT with you, unless you're going from a 60-70mph roll of course. They get very quick with minimal mods.
F-bodies have gone high 12's stock too. Almostryan went mid 12s with only slicks(i believe, nothing else). But yes the defeats of the STi, Evo, and Cobra were all from 50mph roll's.
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:23 PM
Right, 6th gear and 6 cylinders. I wasn't the only one to beat him that night. An 01 SOM SS pulled him too, so, :gtfo: with your Pusstang. I swear, you guys will never admit defeat. :punch:
01 SOM SS - LT's, ORY, No cats, lid, Catback, and other little HP adders, M6, clean engine mod, driver mod
02 Firehawk - Mids, ORY, no cats, lid, stock catback, M6, clean interior mod, driver mod as well
:gay: you feg.
id expect you both to beat a cobra that never took it outa 6th gear running on 6 cylinders and the clutch was slipping i bet it was still a close on tho wasnt it. :punch:
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:24 PM
F-bodies have gone high 12's stock too. Almostryan went mid 12s with only slicks(i believe, nothing else). But yes the defeats of the STi, Evo, and Cobra were all from 50mph roll's.
6th gear and a 50 roll. i guess i could see where you got a slight jump on the cobra
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 07:30 PM
F-bodies have gone high 12's stock too. Almostryan went mid 12s with only slicks(i believe, nothing else). But yes the defeats of the STi, Evo, and Cobra were all from 50mph roll's.
Yes I'm aware that F-bodies have gone high 12s stock. And I'm not trying to say that I don't believe that you beat the Cobra. The Sti and EVO from a roll that high is definitely believable (and spot-on, depending on the mod level of the STi).
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 07:31 PM
6th gear and a 50 roll. i guess i could see where you got a slight jump on the cobra
You are just too funny. I'm laughing right now.
Not. haha, you like my "not" joke, about as funny as your 6th gear joke. Fag. :supergay:
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 07:31 PM
and why not?
I dont know its been tried before and really didnt catch on to well. LT5 anyone? Nice car nice motor, but theres a reaon the new Z06 is a 7.0 liter pushrod motor.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 07:32 PM
Wow. You little girl. You said it couldn't be done, so I came in here and vouched for Camarojunky, because, believe it or not you mustang feg, your little F/I Pusstangs can be beaten! :D
ouch! dont be so mean:angel:
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 07:33 PM
I dont know its been tried before and really didnt catch on to well. LT5 anyone? Nice car nice motor, but theres a reaon the new Z06 is a 7.0 liter pushrod motor.
Probably has something to do with how ridiculously-expensive the LT5 was. If all the development/production could be done in-house, it would work out a lot better.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 07:34 PM
Yes I'm aware that F-bodies have gone high 12s stock. And I'm not trying to say that I don't believe that you beat the Cobra. The Sti and EVO from a roll that high is definitely believable (and spot-on, depending on the mod level of the STi).
Thank you! Well, I also have video to prove the defeat of the 2007 STi (has full exhaust, COBB Stg 2 tune,intake and tial external wastegate).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1n3XSEO_8rM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ncCrvuccJB4
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:35 PM
I dont know its been tried before and really didnt catch on to well. LT5 anyone? Nice car nice motor, but theres a reaon the new Z06 is a 7.0 liter pushrod motor.
yea but im not talking about gm. they should stick with pushrod power., ford seems to do ok with the dohc set ups. i mean a mach1 makes similar power to a ls1 with less compression and it being in the hole 60+ cubic inches.
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:38 PM
You are just too funny. I'm laughing right now.
Not. haha, you like my "not" joke, about as funny as your 6th gear joke. Fag. :supergay:
i dunno maybe its a goot thing he left it in 6th. keep your confidence up .. seems like you need it. whats with you calling everyone a fag seems like that on your mind a lot. you hiding something?
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 07:39 PM
i dunno maybe its a goot thing he left it in 6th. keep your confidence up .. seems like you need it. whats with you calling everyone a fag seems like that on your mind a lot. you hiding something?
Right dude. He left it in 6th gear. :gtfo:
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:40 PM
hey these things happen.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 07:46 PM
yea but im not talking about gm. they should stick with pushrod power., ford seems to do ok with the dohc set ups. i mean a mach1 makes similar power to a ls1 with less compression and it being in the hole 60+ cubic inches.
I dont know maybe you should just go take over and show them how its down? :eyes:
How much does the Lightning make?? 5.4L Supercharged? I really dont know 400 I think? Anyway LS1s could really be said to make 400 hp but they only rate them at 305 for the Zs and T/As, 325 for the Sss and WS6s and Firehawks and 345 for the Vettes. In realty they all make the same power and its really closer to 400.
Honda S2000s make similar power to GTs with 4 less cylinders.
WS6_Suicide_Machine
02-11-2008, 07:49 PM
Dam another thread i missed out on because of work.
and idk if its been said, but Luke beats people left and right. dunno what it is, or what he does, but it works.
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 07:51 PM
I dont know maybe you should just go take over and show them how its down? :eyes:
How much does the Lightning make?? 5.4L Supercharged? I really dont know 400 I think? Anyway LS1s could really be said to make 400 hp but they only rate them at 305 for the Zs and T/As, 325 for the Sss and WS6s and Firehawks and 345 for the Vettes. In realty they all make the same power and its really closer to 400.
Honda S2000s make similar power to GTs with 4 less cylinders.
wait you're saying that ls1s make 400 hp stock?
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 07:53 PM
wait you're saying that ls1s make 400 hp stock?
Pretty damn close to it. And GM didnt mae the LT5 BTW.
My WS6, along with about 10 others on dyno days here, put down around 320 rwhp. Giving 15% drivetrain loss thats 376 hp at the crank. Pretty damn close.........
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:54 PM
I dont know maybe you should just go take over and show them how its down? :eyes:
How much does the Lightning make?? 5.4L Supercharged? I really dont know 400 I think? Anyway LS1s could really be said to make 400 hp but they only rate them at 305 for the Zs and T/As, 325 for the Sss and WS6s and Firehawks and 345 for the Vettes. In realty they all make the same power and its really closer to 400.
Honda S2000s make similar power to GTs with 4 less cylinders.
last time i checked we were talking about dohc motors. where you getting gt's from? and a lighting is also a sohc motor. mach 1 is a dohc along with cobras and gt 500s thats it dude. and again im simply stating if you added cubic inches to the modular design you would be better off.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 07:55 PM
Right dude. He left it in 6th gear. :gtfo:
come on man, dont get so butthurt about people giving u some shit........especially after posting that u stayed even with a gt500 while driving a stock firehawk. u should have known that u were gonna get flamed a little.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 07:57 PM
last time i checked we were talking about dohc motors. where you getting gt's from? and a lighting is also a sohc motor. mach 1 is a dohc along with cobras and gt 500s thats it dude. and again im simply stating if you added cubic inches to the modular design you would be better off.
I dont see it but ok. Liek I said the lT5 was a 5.7L DOHC motor, not made by GM BTW, and it made 400 hp. They are making that with the same cubic inches and a SOHC motor thats WAY less complicated and less exspensive to build and repair.
Didnt know GTs were not DOHC motors. Sorry.....
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 07:58 PM
Pretty damn close to it. And GM didnt mae the LT5 BTW.
My WS6, along with about 10 others on dyno days here, put down around 320 rwhp. Giving 15% drivetrain loss thats 376 hp at the crank. Pretty damn close.........
LOL HARDLY
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 07:58 PM
Pretty damn close to it. And GM didnt mae the LT5 BTW.
My WS6, along with about 10 others on dyno days here, put down around 320 rwhp. Giving 15% drivetrain loss thats 376 hp at the crank. Pretty damn close.........
yeap but cobras are rated at 390/390 but they put down like 380/380 hmmmmm
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 07:59 PM
yeap but cobras are rated at 390/390 but they put down like 380/380 hmmmmm
thats basically 600, i mean ls1s are basically 400
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 07:59 PM
yeap but cobras are rated at 390/390 but they put down like 380/380 hmmmmm
Yeah they are underrated as well. Whats your point? I would hope a blown 8 cylinder could make 400 hp.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:00 PM
LOL HARDLY
I did the math for you are too much of a fanboi to acknowledge it?
Dynotune04
02-11-2008, 08:00 PM
whatever no use arguing with someone who doesnt know a whole lot about mod motors anyway.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:01 PM
thats basically 600, i mean ls1s are basically 400
Basically 600 and 400 come asswipe. 376 is 14 freaking hp from 400. 380 is 220 away from 600. :eyes:
Ford guys are dumb I guess.
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:02 PM
I did the math for you are too much of a fanboi to acknowledge it?
haha im no fanboy, but taking some very generous dyno numbers and adding an extra 25 is just retarded
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:02 PM
325 for the Sss and WS6s and Firehawks and 345 for the Vettes. 01-02 Firehawks and 01-02 SS's made 345hp at the crank from SLP. the 97-00 Corvette's made 345hp and in 01 they Made 350hp. We all know the F-bodies HP was underated as it's been discussed many times before on this forum.
come on man, dont get so butthurt about people giving u some shit........especially after posting that u stayed even with a gt500 while driving a stock firehawk. u should have known that u were gonna get flamed a little. I did hang even with him. and I'm not getting butthurt, ole boy with the blue cobra just seems like your typical mustang prick. freedom of speech. :D
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:02 PM
whatever no use arguing with someone who doesnt know a whole lot about mod motors anyway.
Yep you are right, same goes for you not knowing Gm motors so go back to a Ford site. Ill saty here. kthxbai
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:03 PM
01-02 Firehawks and 01-02 SS's made 345hp at the crank from SLP. the 97-00 Corvette's made 345hp and in 01 they Made 350hp. We all know the F-bodies HP was underated as it's been discussed many times before on this forum.
I did hang even with him. and I'm not getting butthurt, ole boy with the blue cobra just seems like your typical mustang prick. freedom of speech. :D
Except the 2 Ford fanbois here.
BigDaddyBry
02-11-2008, 08:04 PM
:swing::swing::swing::swing::sack::sack::sack:
i dont care what ya say a 03/04 cobra is faster than an fbody hands down bottom line and i dont give a rats ass if i need boost to beat ya. the cobra ya raced probably never took it outa 6th gear and it was probably running on 6 cylinders with a slipping clutch.
Then he should have stayed home and not raced. Regardless of some make believe bullshit to explain away a loss, take the red pill and get out of dreamland.
The Mustang Ladies Club keeps talking about ideal races, ideal circumstances, or what someone ran sometime somewhere..... rarely head-to-head real world experiences (at least in this thread). Instead, it would be nice to hear real world examples instead of vicarious daydreams.
If, if, if, woulda, coulda, shoulda... Well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:04 PM
haha im no fanboy, but taking some very generous dyno numbers and adding an extra 25 is just retarded
Dude I took MY dyno numbers along with 10 others I saw within a 3 year period. Its not like I took the best Ive seen on the net and did these are real world numbers I watched happen.
Here let me get you again.................That car I did the numbers for went 12.82 @ 110 mph totally stock on street tires.
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:05 PM
376 is 14 freaking hp from 400.
Ford guys are dumb I guess.
AHAHAHAHAHA self ownage at its best
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:05 PM
Then he should have stayed home and not raced. Regardless of some make believe bullshit to explain away a loss, take the red pill and get out of dreamland.
The Mustang Ladies Club keeps talking about ideal races, ideal circumstances, or what someone ran sometime somewhere..... rarely head-to-head real world experiences (at least in this thread). Instead, it would be nice to hear real world examples instead of vicarious daydreams.
If, if, if, woulda, coulda, shoulda... Well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
:werd: :chug:
And the Mustang Ladies Club ALWAYS talks about ideal races, or ideal circumstances. They never just leave reality to reality.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:06 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA self ownage at its best
Lets see I said 376 is pretty damn close to 400, which it is. You said 380 is basically 600 so whos the moron??
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:07 PM
okay please lets get one thing straight, no matter what car or who was driving it, whether it be stopsign or john force, the street is the street, and just leave it at that, there is no need to talk about dyno queens here, which from my experience is MOST f/i cars, face it mustang fan boys, when was the last time you street raced with dr's low tire pressure and on a prepped surface, probably never, so unless you got some bad ass tires and a solid axle a competent driver is going to get the wholeshot everytime, and it doesnt take much to hold a cobra off till the next street light, lets face facts here ladies,
i never said that cobra's werent fast but they got a deffinate weak spot and thats dig racing on the street
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Lets see I said 376 is pretty damn close to 400, which it is. You said 380 is basically 600 so whos the moron??
lol maybe you should get a calculator to help you with your basic subtraction. keep calling people dumb and morons when you cant understand basic math.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:09 PM
lol maybe you should get a calculator to help you with your basic subtraction. keep calling people dumb and morons when you cant understand basic math.
So 376 isnt close to 400??? Damn I must have had some dumb teachers then. And i know I put 14 instead of 24, typo sorry. Dont feel like changing it
So 376 is nowhere near 400 right?? Im just making sure.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:09 PM
but they put down like 380/380 hmmmmm
not on average. i think the average is 360-370.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:10 PM
and btw i watched blawkhawk race a cobra and walk him car lenths on the freeway i dont know if he's talking about that time or not, but whatever i watched it with my own two eyes, and im not gonna sit here and argue coulda woulda bullshit all night aint worth it
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:10 PM
So 376 isnt close to 400??? Damn I must have had some dumb teachers then.
So 376 is nowhere near 400 right?? Im just making sure.
no, w/in 25 isnt close when you're talking about a 300 and 400
and lemme check the math here, 376 + 14 = 400 according to you?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:11 PM
please 20hp 40hp hell even 80hp, dont mean shit if you can hook and drive, so get outta here with useless nonsense, i dont remember the last time i watched dyno pulls on youtube, but street races, thanks
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:12 PM
Dam another thread i missed out on because of work.
and idk if its been said, but Luke beats people left and right. dunno what it is, or what he does, but it works.
its that super duper air freshner:secret2:
lol
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:12 PM
and btw i watched blawkhawk race a cobra and walk him car lenths on the freeway i dont know if he's talking about that time or not, but whatever i watched it with my own two eyes, and im not gonna sit here and argue coulda woulda bullshit all night aint worth it
Yes I was talking about that night on the 15 against the Silver 03 Terminator.
Thanks! :D
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:12 PM
no, w/in 25% isnt close
and lemme check the math here, 376 + 14 = 400 according to you?
I addressed that above.
320 with 15% drivetrain loss is 376 jackass. Hell as a matter of fact my car did 327 which is 384 at the crank. 16 hp is pretty damn close to 400 :eyes:
01SOMSS!
02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
nice kill. I'm sure u guys read my thread about the 427r that i was going to race down in pb....lol!
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
its that super duper air freshner:secret2:
lol
:werd:
Oh and let's get 01SOMSS to come in here and vouch for the time me and him beat an 03-04 Term on the 5. Nice guy, and nice car btw.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
I did hang even with him. and I'm not getting butthurt, ole boy with the blue cobra just seems like your typical mustang prick. freedom of speech. :D
i understand.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:14 PM
yea but im not talking about gm. they should stick with pushrod power., ford seems to do ok with the dohc set ups. i mean a mach1 makes similar power to a ls1 with less compression and it being in the hole 60+ cubic inches.
i agree 100%, basically same effect when throwing on a 2.3L huffer, well kinda,
i think money not being in issue, the possible dyno champion between the two might be a 32v simply better technology and being able to bring in so much more air
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:14 PM
nice kill. I'm sure u guys read my thread about the 427r that i was going to race down in pb....lol!
yeh dude was a puss and wouldnt race
btw
Remember that night on the 15 against the 03 Silver Term
and the cruise to Irvine against the 03-04 Black term?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:15 PM
nice kill. I'm sure u guys read my thread about the 427r that i was going to race down in pb....lol!
i heard about that, too bad, you woul'da walked him for sure, my car didn't really pull this car, but every time he shifted i got a few inches on him, it was close the car sounded and looked sick
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:17 PM
the silence before the new shit storm, ahh enjoy it while it lasts
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 08:18 PM
All this bitching is just ridiculous. BUT you couldn't possibly expect that it wasn't gonna happen. What would you guys say if I posted a story about how I beat an M6 LS1 Z28?
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:18 PM
I addressed that above.
320 with 15% drivetrain loss is 376 jackass. Hell as a matter of fact my car did 327 which is 384 at the crank. 16 hp is pretty damn close to 400 :eyes:
once again, those numbers arent in any way the "average," and adding 26 or 16 hp is not close enough to be 400 no matter what you say. you're an idiot trying to rationalize a stupid argument, give it up.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:18 PM
Then he should have stayed home and not raced. Regardless of some make believe bullshit to explain away a loss, take the red pill and get out of dreamland.
The Mustang Ladies Club keeps talking about ideal races, ideal circumstances, or what someone ran sometime somewhere..... rarely head-to-head real world experiences (at least in this thread). Instead, it would be nice to hear real world examples instead of vicarious daydreams.
If, if, if, woulda, coulda, shoulda... Well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
i doubt Dynotune04 was being serious when he said that. and i hope he wasnt.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:19 PM
the silence before the new shit storm, ahh enjoy it while it lasts haha its about to go down like James Brown
All this bitching is just ridiculous. BUT you couldn't possibly expect that it wasn't gonna happen. What would you guys say if I posted a story about how I beat an M6 LS1 Z28?
If you admitted he was a horrible driver and missed a gear, I'd believe you. hahahahha :chug: :pimp:
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:20 PM
once again, those numbers arent in any way the "average," and adding 26 or 16 hp is not close enough to be 400 no matter what you say. you're an idiot trying to rationalize a stupid argument, give it up.
Whatever dude.....................
It was close enough for Ford in 1999 when advertising the Cobra HP wasnt it?? LOL. Oh wait mine is WAAAAY closer.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:20 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA self ownage at its best
aah i cant stop laughing!
j/k
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:21 PM
All this bitching is just ridiculous. BUT you couldn't possibly expect that it wasn't gonna happen. What would you guys say if I posted a story about how I beat an M6 LS1 Z28?
Or like Dynogirl4 said, if he was in 6th gear...lol jk
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:23 PM
Whatever dude.....................
It was close enough for Ford in 1999 when advertising the Cobra HP wasnt it?? LOL. Oh wait mine is WAAAAY closer.
ya i swear they didnt recall those and fix the problem...
o wait!
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:24 PM
Lets see I said 376 is pretty damn close to 400, which it is. You said 380 is basically 600 so whos the moron??
he still didnt catch it when he made this post. lmao!
just messing with ya NECRO, i make lil mistakes too:D
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:25 PM
ya i swear they didnt recall those and fix the problem...
o wait!
Im glad they did honestly. LSx motors didnt need to be fixed to put down that power. Its not my fault GM underrated them so much, bitch to them about it not me jesus.
Hello everyone!!!!!! NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GM underrated LS1 f bodies by a fairly huge amount!!!!
NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:26 PM
so whos gonna video my gt500 kill?
cmon guys this is a street race, I take street racing kills with a grain of salt, anything can happen on the street, some ppl dont take care of cars as well as others, maybe he had some problems with his car? who knows, unless they are on a track and you can see the 1/4 times together then it doesnt matter. further more this was a race from 0-100, traction and quick shifting is key in a race like this you should know that.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:26 PM
he still didnt catch it when he made this post. lmao!
just messing with ya NECRO, i make lil mistakes too:D
Yeah I saw it. It was a typo that turned into a " I put 376 last time so thats the number thing if you know what I mean.
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:27 PM
Im glad they did honestly. LSx motors didnt need to be fixed to put down that power. Its not my fault GM underrated them so much, bitch to them about it not me jesus.
Hello everyone!!!!!! NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GM underrated LS1 f bodies by a fairly huge amount!!!!
NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they did, kinda like lots of svt products have been underrated.
NEWSFLASH
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
376 FWHP IS NOT EQUAL TO 400 FWHP
NEWSFLASH
NECRO CANT DO BASIC MATH
NEWSFLASH
376 + 14 = 400
CONGRATS ON BEING A RETARD
BigDaddyBry
02-11-2008, 08:29 PM
All this bitching is just ridiculous. BUT you couldn't possibly expect that it wasn't gonna happen. What would you guys say if I posted a story about how I beat an M6 LS1 Z28?
I would HOPE we would say "good race, he should have got you but congrats on the win, hope he gets you next time".... but you know how that goes.
Hope in one hand shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:30 PM
they did, kinda like lots of svt products have been underrated.
NEWSFLASH
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
THEY STILL DIDNT MAKE 400
376 FWHP IS NOT EQUAL TO 400 FWHP
NEWSFLASH
NECRO CANT DO BASIC MATH
NEWSFLASH
376 + 14 = 400
CONGRATS ON BEING A RETARD
Yeah I had a typo, Oh shit what to do now?? Im an idiot and know that LS1s actually do make close to 400 so lets jump on a typo and run with it WOOHOO!!!
:eyes:
Funny thing is LS1 f bodies make just as much rwhp as a LS2 GTO. How much are they rated at? Want to guess?
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:31 PM
i never said that cobra's werent fast but they got a deffinate weak spot and thats dig racing on the street
true and i hate it, but the irs is nice through the canyon curves. i could tell a difference in handling when i went from the 04 gt to the cobra.
necrocannibal
02-11-2008, 08:32 PM
Anyway Im going to bed now Im tired.
What we have learned today is that 88blackgt is a complete total Ford fanboi and has his head so far up Fords ass he cant see anything other than "FORD IS GOD". Sorry but noone is god, there isnt a god.
Night all
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:33 PM
and btw i watched blawkhawk race a cobra and walk him car lenths on the freeway i dont know if he's talking about that time or not, but whatever i watched it with my own two eyes, and im not gonna sit here and argue coulda woulda bullshit all night aint worth it
n/a cobra or blown?
blackhawk is stock right?
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 08:36 PM
I would HOPE we would say "good race, he should have got you but congrats on the win, hope he gets you next time".... but you know how that goes.
Hope in one hand shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
Which is exactly what I'm saying to him about the Cobra/GT500 thing... I'm happy for him that it happened, but that's far from "normal," and shouldn't be expected everytime :judge:
88blackgt
02-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Anyway Im going to bed now Im tired.
What we have learned today is that 88blackgt is a complete total Ford fanboi and has his head so far up Fords ass he cant see anything other than "FORD IS GOD". Sorry but noone is god, there isnt a god.
Night all
it has nothing to do w/ liking this or that, its common sense. you dont see a car that makes 295-315 and say its on average a 400 hp car. period.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Sorry but noone is god, there isnt a god.
I've agreed with you up until now.
n/a cobra or blown?
blackhawk is stock right?
Blown Cobra
I have headers, ory, no cats, stock catback, m6, lid, driver mod, and clean interior mod :)
djsanchez2
02-11-2008, 08:42 PM
Wow all this because he said he beat an OVERRATED mustang GT 3-valve with a tiny blower (the 427r)?! You guys are rediculous.
Oh and for the record I have beaten a 03/04 cobra from a roll on the 118fwy. Not once but twice, 3 cars the first time and 2.5 the second. He had a passenger, I did not. I have a M6 with full exhaust and Lid. Is that too hard to believe?
OP- Good runs BTW!!
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 08:42 PM
i understand.
Will the thrill arent you in Socal? Why dont you guys set up a race???
cruiSSin LS1
02-11-2008, 08:44 PM
this thread is hilarious...all it comes down to is this...these events happened whether people like them or not...even have some video and eye witnesses to give credibility/back up for these stories...maybe the other cars are faster...but it is on the street and if u cant drive well it doesnt matter what u race in...
i know for a fact...vince (blakchawk) and luke(camarojunky) dont go around making shit up to get their jollies wet or try and be cool...
djsanchez2
02-11-2008, 08:46 PM
Will the thrill arent you in Socal? Why dont you guys set up a race???
I'll run Will for fun. I'm in SoCal.
Dig and/or Roll
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:48 PM
i know for a fact...vince (blakchawk) and luke(camarojunky) dont go around making shit up to get their jollies wet or try and be cool... Thanks! :D
I'll run Will for fun. I'm in SoCal.
Dig and/or Roll Ill run too, just for the heck of it.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:51 PM
Will the thrill arent you in Socal? Why dont you guys set up a race???
that would be cool. i think oceanside is within a hour and a half.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:53 PM
true and i hate it, but the irs is nice through the canyon curves. i could tell a difference in handling when i went from the 04 gt to the cobra.
i'm sure of that, the gto regardless of weight owns the fbodys thru the canyons
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 08:54 PM
that would be cool. i think oceanside is within a hour and a half.
where do you live i would love to race you
djsanchez2
02-11-2008, 08:55 PM
Wow, Oceanside is far. I passed it on the way to San Diego yesterday.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 08:57 PM
alrite so we having a raceday?! haha we gotta call tho and not post on the site.. :secret2:
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 08:58 PM
yeah yall better agree on a roll race........with yall's fancy, tough rear ends:D
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
i'm sure of that, the gto regardless of weight owns the fbodys thru the canyons
04 gt, not gto
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
yeah yall better agree on a roll race........with yall's fancy, tough rear ends:D
lol, far from tough i just blew up one on friday night racing,
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blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
yeah yall better agree on a roll race........with yall's fancy, tough rear ends:D
im always down for a roll race... :D
:secret2:
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
I'll run Will for fun. I'm in SoCal.
Dig and/or Roll
whats your mods?
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 09:01 PM
04 gt, not gto
yes i know, gt=solid axle
fbody=solid axle
cobra=irs
gto=irs
so the cobra to the gt is the gto to the f body in terms of suspension
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 09:04 PM
I'd be down to run from 40 or so until I get some DR'shttp://smiliesftw.com/x/2000-pontiac-white.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:04 PM
where do you live i would love to race you
in the Antelope Valley. about an hour and 20 mins northeast of LA.
blackhawk_02
02-11-2008, 09:06 PM
wow, too far for me.. lets meet somewhere closer!
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:07 PM
alrite so we having a raceday?! haha we gotta call tho and not post on the site.. :secret2:
we have a good racing spot up here thats in the middle of nowhere. theres a starting line marked along with a quarter mile mark. i heard that the locals have been racing there since the 70 or 80's. do yall have any good spots down there away from the city and traffic?
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:08 PM
lol, far from tough i just blew up one on friday night racing,
'
sorry to hear that man. the guy with the black z28 that i raced sat night blew up his rear end about a month ago.
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 09:08 PM
in the Antelope Valley. about an hour and 20 mins northeast of LA.
how close is that to the Victorville area?
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:10 PM
yes i know, gt=solid axle
fbody=solid axle
cobra=irs
gto=irs
so the cobra to the gt is the gto to the f body in terms of suspension
oh ok, i see what u meant now.
i thought u misread me.
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 09:11 PM
http://smiliesftw.com/x/skid.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)<== this is how my car is currently lol
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:12 PM
wow, too far for me.. lets meet somewhere closer!
thats possible.
willthethrill
02-11-2008, 09:13 PM
how close is that to the Victorville area?
about an hour and a half i think. why?
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 09:16 PM
about an hour and a half i think. why?
Thats where I live. I actually live in both Victorville and San bernardino. Was just wondering if you were closer to the high deserthttp://smiliesftw.com/x/tumbleweed.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 09:23 PM
yeah i say we go up to the desert, not really to many good spots down here at all, just irwindale,
LivingCanvas
02-11-2008, 09:42 PM
yeah i say we go up to the desert, not really to many good spots down here at all, just irwindale,
I'll ask around but I dont think theres too many good places up here
Teal94Z
02-11-2008, 09:47 PM
yeah i say we go up to the desert, not really to many good spots down here at all, just irwindale,
lol you live next to a track and you want to do it in the desert?
kennyxg
02-11-2008, 09:52 PM
Don't be a key board racer post a vid or two.Three valve with a blower isn't nothing to sneeze at if it is set up right.Wow all this because he said he beat an OVERRATED mustang GT 3-valve with a tiny blower (the 427r)?! You guys are rediculous.
Oh and for the record I have beaten a 03/04 cobra from a roll on the 118fwy. Not once but twice, 3 cars the first time and 2.5 the second. He had a passenger, I did not. I have a M6 with full exhaust and Lid. Is that too hard to believe?
OP- Good runs BTW!!
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 09:58 PM
Don't be a key board racer post a vid or two.Three valve with a blower isn't nothing to sneeze at if it is set up right.
kind of hard to video and drive,. trust me i wish more than anything i had vid's of all the cars i killed, it would make a bad ass movie ill tell you that.
and i'm not internet racing, im simply sharing my storie, i never once said what if or woulda coulda shoulda,
and a three valve's are jokes, plain and simple,
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 09:58 PM
kind of hard to video and drive,. trust me i wish more than anything i had vid's of all the cars i killed, it would make a bad ass movie ill tell you that.
and i'm not internet racing, im simply sharing my storie, i never once said what if or woulda coulda shoulda,
and a three valve's are jokes, plain and simple,
Well I wouldn't exactly go that far :eyes:
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 09:59 PM
lol you live next to a track and you want to do it in the desert?
not everyone is going to go to the track, i think this is a fair compromise, plus i have the advantage on the street
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 10:00 PM
Well I wouldn't exactly go that far :eyes:
well i did 5 mintues ago and i did it last night when i beat one twice, so... ill go as far as my car will take me
kennyxg
02-11-2008, 10:03 PM
Well wasn't talkin to you but ,I guess the same apply's to you too. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.Good kill.kind of hard to video and drive,. trust me i wish more than anything i had vid's of all the cars i killed, it would make a bad ass movie ill tell you that.
and i'm not internet racing, im simply sharing my storie, i never once said what if or woulda coulda shoulda,
and a three valve's are jokes, plain and simple,
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 10:06 PM
Well wasn't talkin to you but ,I guess the same apply's to you too. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
oh, and yes i guess it is in opinion,
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 10:07 PM
id expect you both to beat a cobra that never took it outa 6th gear running on 6 cylinders and the clutch was slipping i bet it was still a close on tho wasnt it. :punch:
dude you make fun of us because we think ls1s are the shit but listen to you ...you think your cobra is the fastest thing on the streets....there are many many cars on this site that will hand you your ass my
Irunelevens
02-11-2008, 10:12 PM
well i did 5 mintues ago and i did it last night when i beat one twice, so... ill go as far as my car will take me
So everything you beat sucks? :confused:
kennyxg
02-11-2008, 10:12 PM
Camaro junky what kinda times does your car run any way? Just asking.
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 10:15 PM
So everything you beat sucks? :confused:
i guess that is my cockyness coming out, well i guess no. good point
camarojunky74
02-11-2008, 10:15 PM
Camaro junky what kinda times does your car run any way? Just asking.
the only consistent times i have are at an 1/8 mile track where i go 8.4's and 8.5's at about 88-89mph
z28berryhill
02-11-2008, 10:18 PM
ok guys is there any ford made from 98-02 that will beat an ls1
just asking
lighting wont
gt no
cobra them years no
what else