Sponsor Group Purchases - **Introductory Sale** TTP Harness Bar Kit For 5-Point Harnesses Till 2/29

THESE BARS WILL BE SHIPPING UNPAINTED BY FEBRUARY 25th AND POWDER COATED BY FEBRUARY 27ND.

PICS !!!

Nope no need to remove the seats, to install it would be easier to remove the bottom seats. We will include a full set of directions on our website and with the harness bar so you can always have them.

We liked the appeal of putting the rear seat back in for good looks, but yes there will be no upper seatbelt or lapbelt mount.

The crotch strap bracket will be completed over the weekend, you will have full functionality of your seat. We are taking orders now for shipment late next week.

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** End caps will be flat, not open tube as shown in picture on all production models.

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** Seat all the way back and reclined a good way back

We will have pics of the powder coated version on Monday.

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Introductory Sale. Good for all orders until March 15th, 2008. We will include the $75 4130 Chromemoly Tubing Upgrade for FREE!!! I apologize for the mess on our website but we will be working for the entire online catalog to be up by the end of February.

TTP Harness Bar Base Kit

All Round Tubing 1 3/4" Mild Steel (.120" Thickness)
- 1x TTP Harness Main Bar Hoop (Includes mounting plates for rear seat belt mount)
- 2x TTP Harness Bar Legs (Includes mounting hardware/gussets for bolt-in installation)
- 1/8" Thick Steel Plate for Main Bar Hoop Mounting.
- Includes mounting points for Both Driver & Passenger.
- Includes Crotch Strap Bracket for 5th Point Harness Mount Both Driver & Passenger.
- All associated hardware is included.

For the GROUP PURCHASE WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THE 4130 CHROMEMOLY OPTION FOR NO CHARGE. $75 VALUE!!!

TTP Harness Bar Order Page (https://st08.startlogic.com/~ttperfor/osCommerce/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=28&osCsid=640257a354b5093aa4afb28f7137fd40)

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Give us a call at 973 365 2270.

Any idea on shipping? My buddy and I are interested, zip 95119

Looks to be about $34 and change to get it down there. All the shipping charges are included through the shopping cart, you can get to the estimated shipping after signing up but before actually processing your card.

I really like the looks of this and I was looking for something similar for my 93. Lets say I wanted to update down the line to a 8 / 10 point cage could I use this as the basis for that?

This would not work for an update down the line unfortunately. It is mimicked off of where a normal legal crossbar in the main hoop would go, but the mounting points and design of the bar will not allow for updates to NHRA/IHRA legal bars.

- Matt

Hmm.. I might still be picking one up. How much do they weigh?

Good question... the weight of the bar and removing the seats i wonder if it would equal out?

Good question... the weight of the bar and removing the seats i wonder if it would equal out?

That's what I was thinking. I'm hoping it's really close or that it weighs less than the seats.

EDIT: Does till the 29th include the 29th? I get paid on that day.

Beaflag: I never want to beat anyone up. If you need until March 1,2 ,3 that's fine. same goes with anyone I'll probably extend this to mid-March had a big interest with local guys already.

I will get the final weight on the bar by tomorrow when we finish our first production unit in black powder coat for a local guy.

good to hear your willing to work with us guys that are a little tight on money

Beaflag: I never want to beat anyone up. If you need until March 1,2 ,3 that's fine. same goes with anyone I'll probably extend this to mid-March had a big interest with local guys already.

I will get the final weight on the bar by tomorrow when we finish our first production unit in black powder coat for a local guy.

Looks really nice Matt, Is there any chance you could post up some pics when the bar is done of course, How the harness will look with Camaro seats? Since all the pics I keep finding are Firebird seats.
Thanks
Mike

I saw you do custom powder coating. Is that limited to the colors listed or could you do Hugger Orange?

Thanks,
William

We are working right now on building our blast cabinet, was a little behind because of damaged parts in shipping. We are trying to get this powder coated by the end of the week. I have changed the dates on this sale to accommodate for our delay.

I can't get a GM color, but if you want a close color to hugger orange I can try. Let me go through my list of colors here and see what I can get a sample of.

We will show the harness bar in a Camaro and a Firebird so everyone can see how it fits. We are also working right now on downsizing the tubing a bit to save on costs and make it still effective. We'd like to offer these bars exclusively in 4130 for a budget price and forgot about M/S!!

What does M/S mean :D

What does M/S mean :D
M/S = mild steel ... which is heavier

Okay thanks man

Definitely keep me/us in the loop as I'm looking to buy a bar soon! I have started doing a lot of road racing recently and no one seems to offer a reasonable solution to the harness situation in fbodies. I'd run a cage but in a street car it's not something I want so this fits in that category perfectly :)

Thanks,
William

Can't wait to see the final setup :)

Any finished product pics?

Thanks

Sorry guys we are just finishing our new p/c oven here. We should have some final powder coated pics tomorrow.

- Matt

i will have to pass as my hrs got cut at work and money is going to be tight incase you put my name on the list.

Nice, but I was hoping it would be a cleaner/simpler design like the one LG used to make. Are those vertical bars really needed?

Yes they are definitely needed for the support. If you are going for all looks and no functionality then you can avoid using the vertical bars...

Looks like the p/c unit is about good to go. We have some samples of our candy apple red color that I'll be posting in about hour or so.

- Matt

Nice, but I was hoping it would be a cleaner/simpler design like the one LG used to make. Are those vertical bars really needed?

I thought the same, but then read a few guys had to add "legs" to the LG bar because it was flexing so much ... so just depends what you want it for I guess.

Almost there guys... these SFCs are looking prettttttty.

Almost there guys... these SFCs are looking prettttttty.

Hmmmm, please tell me that you'll be making a 3 point SFC which mounts in the correct/best points ( a'la Global West SFC's) unlike some other 3 point SFC's that are out there

First three production units should be finished today in super wet black powder coat, ready for shipping! Will keep you updated.

cobrakiller: Unfortunately they are only 2-points :)

How does this bar mount in the back?

It bolts right into the stock location> everything bolts in, NO cutting involved!

I'm looking at Nick putting the finishing touches on our first production bar with the end caps. I will get some pics going asap.

- Matt

We have our first run of harness bars complete. We are working on the crotch strap assemblies. I have 3 units that are NOT spoken for as of now. If you want one of these units I will require a $50 deposit and let me know what gusset tabs you want welded on for which seats are in the car & what powder coat color you are interested in. I'll get some photos of the production runs tomorrow. Give me a call at the shop 973 365 2270 to jump on one of these they will be available to ship by mid-week.

Im down to put a deposit in after I see some pics of the finished product...

Of course, finished product is coming tomorrow except I cannot powder coat them until I have the gusset choices obviously. So they will be all nice and shined up with the scotch brite but just not p/c'd.

- Matt

update?

Im just waiting for a couple of finished pics before I send my order in. I just want to see which would look better in my car red or black.

anyone buy one of these yet?

Im just waiting on an update.

I'm sorry to leave everyone hanging on this. We have had an influx of the shop work to setup cars just before this weekend's track events (Which look like they will be rained out), so we've been swamped. I have 4 more production units that are available but yes we hit a snag with our powder coater. We are going to have our new oven here hopefully by top of next week. Sorry guys I want these to move just as much as you do, but I don't want to release a product without showing the finalized product & fitment/quality that we want.


- Matt

Hey Matt, Any word on the progress on these??? I am very intersted in one

TTT for today....

Matt, what the deal wth the harness bar? Are you going to put them into production or not? I just want know know if i am wasting my time waiting around for a bar that will never be built.:pissed:

I am also interested. Any updates?

Interested too.

havent heard anything about these yet.

You guys, the LG bar was copied off of the design that I and Chris Akers created and that we fabricated with John Groves of Groves Automotive in Roanoke, VA many years ago.

We sold one set to Jason McCall who then went to work for LG, and LG copied the original design but lightened it and that is most likely why people saw any flexing. Jason himself practically totalled a car using our original harness bar with no problems whatsoever, since our bar was built with mild-steel and the tubing was 1.75" which LG felt was overkill.

Here are pix of the original bar, which requires no cutting, welding, etc and is used in conjunction with a floor bar between the two front seat bolts (Wolfe now sells a floor bar as a separate item).

Maybe John Groves would be interested in cranking out another set as a bulk order, but he wasn't interested in single jobs. He has the jig setup to duplicate with accuracy.

Well, strangely enough it is not allowing uploads of my jpgs even though they are only 65KB apiece. Maybe I need more posts first.

Anyway, if a discussion is open lets talk. I enjoyed designing these in the fall of 1998 (yes 10 years ago), roadraced with it and had a great time until I installed a full 6-pt rollbar setup.

Randy Brown

To everyone, we ran into some measurement issues on the current harness bar sets that we have made. Due to demand, we will be discontinuing our production of harness bars. We can make a full custom set per vehicle (Just need a few measurements of where your seat is, etc) for $450 that will include powder coating.

I do apologize for this, however we have found that creating a mass produced harness bar that needs specialized gussets per harness set you use and taking into account driver height/seat position; this was not going to happen. We were able to create a universal harness bar, however, due to safety reasons I could not guarantee every driver could be "safe" with these.

V-Ticket: My bar is no copy of yours or LGs. It is an original design as you can see from our pictures on previous pages. I'd appreciate that you take your beef with LG out of my thread. Thanks.

- Matt