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Old 02-20-2008, 01:41 PM
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Getting ready to tune the camaro have heard good things from both tuners just wanted to see which ones u went with..
Old 02-20-2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RED94Z28
Getting ready to tune the camaro have heard good things from both tuners just wanted to see which ones u went with..
Not to be a ***, this has been a repeated topic. If you do a search you can see a ton of info on this. The consensus is that both are good tuners.
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^ what he said.
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both are good tuners from what i hear, i went with madz28 because i heard good things and it was slightly cheaper, shipping was fast car runs awesome
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Support your local tuner man! I drove to Ion@madz28 and gave him my computer, he took it and ran inside, re-tuned it and gave it back to me. Took maby 15min and i was on my way back home with a tuned computer!! So i wasnt down a car at all!!

IMO thats your best way and his tune is pretty ****** good!
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Since you're in IL, I'd say go with MadZ28. Dekalb isn't too far away and I plan on hopping onto I88 sometime this summer and venturing up there to have Ion tune my car. Just because I don't want to pay a core fee or worry about swapping out the PCM's myself. Hey Taubr, how much did he charge you since you went there and had him do it in person?
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I went with Pcmforless,Brian did a great job.Then it failed smog I sent it back with the print out and got it updated for free.Passed with flying colors with no rear O2's and one cat I live in CA 2 and its hell out here 2 smog a car.
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Originally Posted by tspence45
Since you're in IL, I'd say go with MadZ28. Dekalb isn't too far away and I plan on hopping onto I88 sometime this summer and venturing up there to have Ion tune my car. Just because I don't want to pay a core fee or worry about swapping out the PCM's myself. Hey Taubr, how much did he charge you since you went there and had him do it in person?
It was i think $115 or whatever it was on the site. I just didnt have to pay shipping eaither way and you can talk to him in person and hell know exactely about your car.
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
It was i think $115 or whatever it was on the site. I just didnt have to pay shipping eaither way and you can talk to him in person and hell know exactely about your car.
I wasn't sure if he'd be charging for what a tuned PCM costs or whether he'd just charge the same as an email tune. I'll probably go up there this summer after I get some LT's and my true dual setup. It's only a couple hours and would be a fun road trip for me and a friend or two. Can't be any further than driving back from Champaign, when I bought the car.
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After I did my heads/cam back in 2005, Ion(Madz28) did my initial tune. A good guy to talk to about tuning. Highly recommended.
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Madz28 for me.
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i used pcmforless. this thread wont tell you much.. its basically split down the middle and they both do a good job
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Madz28 here.. Ion is a nice guy and helped me track down some ignition issues I had..
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It's gonna be a 50/50 on this subject. I'd just do a search. Prolly been 5 threads on this in the last year. But Ive always had pcmforless do mine Bryan fn rocks!
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Mail order tune or dyno tune?
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both are great from what i have heard. I talked to Ion through email and he replies really fast. I am using Bluecat though since he originally tuned my car and he does a good job too.
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a buddy of mine used both of them with minimal succes from either, ION tune was on his first few setups and the bolt on only tune was good, then he did LT4 hotcam and trickflow heads(a very easy cam to tune) and ION's tune was PIG rich, and i had to fix it. then he got an ed write tune... then his next set up was a much bigger cam and ported the heads/intake. he went with pcm4less for a baseline tune. had he not had lt1 edit handy the car would have taken forever to get home. wouldnt idle much at all and was way off in low load areas(cruise-n-round) wide open throttle was good. anyone can write you a good tune for a bolt on car, but tho way more $ ed write is still the man for the LT1 WORLD.
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what about on boosted applications... i will try to tune but I do not know a single thing about tunning... I was thinking about switching to OBDI and go with tunercat or LT! Edit
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Originally Posted by BLWNLT1_T/A
what about on boosted applications... i will try to tune but I do not know a single thing about tunning... I was thinking about switching to OBDI and go with tunercat or LT! Edit
if i had to choose between those two it would be tunercat all the way. i thought edit was really somethin when i tuned my first lt1, now that i use HP
Tuners i realize how premitive edit really is.lol
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My results speak for themselves..

Times/mph in sig.. mail order tune from pcmforless.

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