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WS6 is an option code.. just like Z28.
Back in the day when WS6 was born, 30+ years ago, RPO code WS6 meant the inclusion of certain performance options.
the current WS6 is an homage to that... same with Z28, ZR2, Z71 (all were RPO codes)
LS1 is just the platform name for this series of engine (called the generation 3, or GEN3)
GM engine codes have always begun with L, and in this case, the LS replaces the LT and so on.
so LS1 is the first engine on the LS platform.
Back in the day when WS6 was born, 30+ years ago, RPO code WS6 meant the inclusion of certain performance options.
the current WS6 is an homage to that... same with Z28, ZR2, Z71 (all were RPO codes)
LS1 is just the platform name for this series of engine (called the generation 3, or GEN3)
GM engine codes have always begun with L, and in this case, the LS replaces the LT and so on.
so LS1 is the first engine on the LS platform.
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Actually the LS designation was used in the `70's originally.
The Original LS1 was the RPO for the 1970 400 Ram Air IV in the Trans Am
The LS2 was the RPO for the`73-74 SD 455 Engine
LS5 was the RPO for the Base 454 available in the 1970 Chevelle SS aswell as the RPO for the 455 HO in `71-72 Pontiac's
And Obviuosly the LS6 is from the `70 454 Chevelle's top Engine.
The Original LS1 was the RPO for the 1970 400 Ram Air IV in the Trans Am
The LS2 was the RPO for the`73-74 SD 455 Engine
LS5 was the RPO for the Base 454 available in the 1970 Chevelle SS aswell as the RPO for the 455 HO in `71-72 Pontiac's
And Obviuosly the LS6 is from the `70 454 Chevelle's top Engine.
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Ive heard that WS6 stands for "Wheels, Suspension, and 6 speed" and the reason that they arnt all 6 speeds is that there was a great demand for autos also. but the question that i have is havent they've been makeing the ws6 option longer than the 6 speed tranny?
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Some guy at a gas station a few years ago was telling me that he wanted to get one and I quote...."I want to get one of these wide track Trans ams." He was totally clueless. I said you mean WS6? He goes "yeah the wide track" I just mentally called him a dumbass and shook my head lol.
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Some guy at a gas station a few years ago was telling me that he wanted to get one and I quote...."I want to get one of these wide track Trans ams." He was totally clueless. I said you mean WS6? He goes "yeah the wide track" I just mentally called him a dumbass and shook my head lol.
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Actually the LS designation was used in the `70's originally.
The Original LS1 was the RPO for the 1970 400 Ram Air IV in the Trans Am
The LS2 was the RPO for the`73-74 SD 455 Engine
LS5 was the RPO for the Base 454 available in the 1970 Chevelle SS aswell as the RPO for the 455 HO in `71-72 Pontiac's
And Obviuosly the LS6 is from the `70 454 Chevelle's top Engine.
The Original LS1 was the RPO for the 1970 400 Ram Air IV in the Trans Am
The LS2 was the RPO for the`73-74 SD 455 Engine
LS5 was the RPO for the Base 454 available in the 1970 Chevelle SS aswell as the RPO for the 455 HO in `71-72 Pontiac's
And Obviuosly the LS6 is from the `70 454 Chevelle's top Engine.
WS6 has gone through many many transitions over the years as to what it stood for as a package. I've never heard the 6 standing for 6 speed before though. I know in 3rg Gens (at least the later years) it was simply a suspension package. I know, because my 91 was a WS6 My 91 was VERY option packed for a Formula. I don't think the 96+ WS6s are anything but the appearance and engine additions. Which is kind of sad, it would've been nice to see them have more, to make them stand out and be more of a special car. Then again, I'm not fully knowledgeable on the 96+s. They could've added in the 1LE suspension package but left out the delete options.
Maybe he was confused with the Grand Prix Wide Track. Their moto was "Wider is better".
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it doesnt stand for anything, its just a code that happens to sound good. like Z28 is nothing but a code for camaros that sounds good. look at GM trucks.....the off road suspension package is called Z71. the upgraded susp. for non-Z06 vettes is Z51. and look at the vettes.....a Z06.
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WS6 has gone through many many transitions over the years as to what it stood for as a package. I've never heard the 6 standing for 6 speed before though. I know in 3rg Gens (at least the later years) it was simply a suspension package. I know, because my 91 was a WS6 My 91 was VERY option packed for a Formula. I don't think the 96+ WS6s are anything but the appearance and engine additions. Which is kind of sad, it would've been nice to see them have more, to make them stand out and be more of a special car. Then again, I'm not fully knowledgeable on the 96+s. They could've added in the 1LE suspension package but left out the delete options.
from what ive heard, EVERY formula was WS6 back then. but interestingly enough, it was an option on a TA. and unless the advertising was lieing, 96+ WS6 had better, stiffer suspensions, bars, and exhaust. it started out life as a suspension packege, but morphed into an suspension, appearance, and engine package.
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from what ive heard, EVERY formula was WS6 back then. but interestingly enough, it was an option on a TA. and unless the advertising was lieing, 96+ WS6 had better, stiffer suspensions, bars, and exhaust. it started out life as a suspension packege, but morphed into an suspension, appearance, and engine package.
All 3rd gen Formula's and GTA's had the WS6 Suspension as standard equipment and it was optional on the Regular Trans Am.
`96-`00 WS6's used the 1LE springs 32mm Front swaybar revalved Decarbon shocks and 17" wheels, Along with a Ram Air hood and Airbox. `01 &`02 WS6's are essentially the same except for the Springs which were discontinued in late 2000.
The WS6 RPO dates back to 1978 and it was a suspension option for the Formula and Trans Am. It included bigger swaybars urethane bushings and larger 15x8" wheels. In `79 4 wheel disc brakes were added to the package.
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im fairly sure WS6 was available in 77. but the biggest upgrade was the quicker steering box. thats what everyone wants when they do a WS6 swap. the box made all the differance. the wider 15x8 snowflakes are always sought after too.
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But `78 was the first year for the WS6 Option and it was the first year for the 8" snowflakes aswell. Perhaps your referring to the the W72 T/A 400 Engine which deputed in `77 and ran till 1979.
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the 1984 turbo sunfires were all WS6. which, incidentally, were as fast if not faster then any V8 offered by pontiac at that time. each motor was hand assembled in brazil, and each was dynoed to make at least 150 hp. if memory serves, there were a few other cars of the late 70s you could get WS6 with. im thinking the grand prixs mostly.
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Some guy at a gas station a few years ago was telling me that he wanted to get one and I quote...."I want to get one of these wide track Trans ams." He was totally clueless. I said you mean WS6? He goes "yeah the wide track" I just mentally called him a dumbass and shook my head lol.