Street Racing & Kill Stories - Raced a 300 zx last night

So I was on the way home from the track last night with my bro n 2 other friends just minding my own business when this 300zx pulls up next to me n keeps on flooring it n then slowing down n flooring it n slowing down. He did it about 3 or 4 times. I didnt wanna race because I had so many people in the car but everyone made me... peer pressure is a bitch lol. So I get next to him n down shift to 3rd at about 50 n he immediately jumps on it so i do to but he jumps a car n holds it. Now im pissed cause he wnt even wait for a honk or anything. So i finally catch up to him n roll the window down n say lets do a 45 n he sais i dnt race im a drifter n i started to laugh n said you just did so lets do it again n he finally said ok. So we slow down n as soon as i down shift again I honk it off n he gets about 1/2 a car out n holds it till about 115 or so n then shuts down n slows to about 45 n wnt come near me again. Im not sure his mods but u could def hear the turbos n it was lowered but thats all i could get from it. All in all it was a fun night but i know i woulda beat him if i only 1 other person in the car. Oh n all my friends in the car weigh just over 200 lol. Sry for it being so wordy lol

Cool... so what do you drive?

I have a 99 Z28 camaro m6. All i have is slp cat-back n a lid. I ran an 8.74 at 85 last night with a shitty 2.2 60" lol. I think he also had suspension cause every bump he hit the entire car would like jump n bounce all over the place haha

Those cars are pretty badass. Definetly the best looking car Japan has ever made IMO. Although I bet he had a bit of $$$ tied into his mods. Stock turbos suck on those, if you want real power you'll have to swap them out(over 2k right there)

I got my ass handed to me once by a 300zx on stock turbos.. Wasn't the best race, from about 50 or 60, I spun in 2nd, hit third, and bro started pullin away.. Had to slow down for traffic.. I did a littla research, and a stock turbo 300zx@16lbs is like 400 wheel..

I got my ass handed to me once by a 300zx on stock turbos.. Wasn't the best race, from about 50 or 60, I spun in 2nd, hit third, and bro started pullin away.. Had to slow down for traffic.. I did a littla research, and a stock turbo 300zx@16lbs is like 400 wheel..

Dang, didn't know they could make that much on the stock turbos.

Dang, didn't know they could make that much on the stock turbos.

Just what I read online, you can't believe everything, but it seems possible.

damn bro woulda have been a dif story if you didnt have so many people in your car.

damn bro woulda have been a dif story if you didnt have so many people in your car.

ya thats what i was thinking if they weigh about 300 combined that is good for about 30 horsepower or so.

I no thats the part that pisses me off lol but i still think i did pretty good for all the people. What really makes me mad is that he had his g/f in the car n he was prolly tellin her oh look at that i beat an ls1's ass. I just wish i coulda embaressed him in front of her lol.

If you count all three of them combines they where seriously prolly close to 500 or 550 lol.

Just what I read online, you can't believe everything, but it seems possible.

The stock turbos on the 300ZX arent large enough to support 400 rwhp on 16 psi. Even maxed out it wont come close to that.

50 MPH should be a downshift to second, not third. What did you shift to for the 45 roll?

I always start in second from a 45 roll. Thats my best roll in my car. I dnt like to go from a fifty in the first place so thats y i went to 3rd. I know i coulda beat him with less people in the car

I always start in second from a 45 roll. Thats my best roll in my car. I dnt like to go from a fifty in the first place so thats y i went to 3rd. I know i coulda beat him with less people in the car

Yeah. i'd say it's about a 475 lb difference. That might hurt a bit when trying to race.

Well i dnt know if you read it very well but i said all my friends in the car weigh just over 200 pounds. That means EACH PERSON in the car weighs over 200 pounds. Maybe that makes sense. Read like 5 posts up

Well i dnt know if you read it very well but i said all my friends in the car weigh just over 200 pounds. That means EACH PERSON in the car weighs over 200 pounds. Maybe that makes sense. Read like 5 posts up

haha yeah.. I quickly edited because I'm retarded. My bad.

its fime we all make mistakes lol

The stock turbos on the 300ZX arent large enough to support 400 rwhp on 16 psi. Even maxed out it wont come close to that.

yes they are. please dont spread false information, stock turbo z's constantly make 390-410 with upgraded injectors, stock injectors expect 340-360

The stock turbos on the 300ZX arent large enough to support 400 rwhp on 16 psi. Even maxed out it wont come close to that.


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How about 402 HP and 450 FT LBS on stock turbos/intercoolers, and injectors. You should really research before you spew information.

Specialty Z also made 450 RWHP and 500 FT LBS on a stock turbo car. So you apparently have not checked your information within the last 3-4 years or so.

Yeah man your friends cost you a 1/2 second in the quarter. 500lbs... LOL. Tell their asses to go on a diet if they want to ride along. Was the z28 scraping the exhaust when you got on the gas? At least you didn't have any traction issues...

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How about 402 HP and 450 FT LBS on stock turbos/intercoolers, and injectors. You should really research before you spew information.

Specialty Z also made 450 RWHP and 500 FT LBS on a stock turbo car. So you apparently have not checked your information within the last 3-4 years or so.

Too bad there's a lot of bullshit you neglect to mention. He's running the car on 100 octane, and spraying the intercooler with alcohol after each run. You're not going to see that on the street. Not to mention its only a matter of time before that motor needs new turbos and headgaskets, stupid ricers :eyes:

Too bad there's a lot of bullshit you neglect to mention. He's running the car on 100 octane, and spraying the intercooler with alcohol after each run. You're not going to see that on the street. Not to mention its only a matter of time before that motor needs new turbos and headgaskets, stupid ricers :eyes:

i think someone is jealous

Too bad there's a lot of bullshit you neglect to mention. He's running the car on 100 octane, and spraying the intercooler with alcohol after each run. You're not going to see that on the street. Not to mention its only a matter of time before that motor needs new turbos and headgaskets, stupid ricers :eyes:

And if he had upgraded his injectors, he probably wouldn't need to run 100 octane... and if he upgraded the intercooler, he wouldn't need to spray the stock one with alcohol (cooling effect). So I'd say the car could still make 400rwhp on the stock turbos. And the VG30DETT is a pretty stout motor, so 400rwhp is not the benchmark.

You're not going to see that on the street.

Who said anything about the street? I was just correcting someone who made a false statement.

No need to get all upset because your badass WS6 can't do that with an air filter, exhaust, boost controller and race gas.

i think someone is jealous

Yea. Real jealous of his pile of crap ricer...:eyes:

Why is every Japanese car a ricer? I'm pretty sure the built quality is far better than most American cars (plastic interior FTL). That and they hold their value.

Why is every Japanese car a ricer? I'm pretty sure the built quality is far better than most American cars (plastic interior FTL). That and they hold their value.

Let's not start this again. We just went through like 11 pages of this in another thread. Everyone has their own opinion. Don't try to change it. It's not going to work. Let the ignorant be ignorant. Keep in mind not everyone has to love imports just because they can be made fast with enough money and they hold their value. I think we all knew the interiors in F-body's were junk before we bought them. It doesn't bother me at all. People on this board are going to call it a ricer if they want to. No amount of information you supply is going to change that. Your sig doesn't help the argument either. I guarantee someone would point out that your modded (lightly I know)TT car ran a stock F-body time. I'm just giving you the heads up from what I have seen people do/say on this board.

Who said anything about the street? I was just correcting someone who made a false statement.

No need to get all upset because your badass WS6 can't do that with an air filter, exhaust, boost controller and race gas.

it was a street encounter so he was talking about a street race not really the track. And there is always cars that make more power with bitchin tunes and good weather, but for a general statement that is pretty accurate.

Why is every Japanese car a ricer? I'm pretty sure the built quality is far better than most American cars (plastic interior FTL). That and they hold their value.

not every import is a ricer when people say that they are messing around and trying to get reactions, please dont get a flame war going on here.

Statements like that is what make people call imports ricers because of the superior thought that import owners have thinking that imports are built so much better. And you are complaining about people calling imports ricers and then you say something like that to bash domestics quality. Come on man.

Why is every Japanese car a ricer? I'm pretty sure the built quality is far better than most American cars (plastic interior FTL). That and they hold their value.

Trolling TFL. I hope you at least have ridden in an Fbody to come on here and stir up stuff in the SRK section...

13.16

Enough said for the troll.

Yea. Real jealous of his pile of crap ricer...

At the moment I drive a Dodge, a Pontiac, and an Audi. Thanks for playing.

Why is every Japanese car a ricer? I'm pretty sure the built quality is far better than most American cars (plastic interior FTL). That and they hold their value.

God, the ricer trolls poor in here like water over a damn :punch:

Better quality?? Don't get me started on that, because I'll tear you up with plenty examples of asian vehicles that are complete garbage.

God, the ricer trolls poor in here like water over a damn :punch:

Better quality?? Don't get me started on that, because I'll tear you up with plenty examples of asian vehicles that are complete garbage.

Its pour not poor. Do you really hate imports so much or are you just giving these guys shit? I'm not a huge import fan except for BMW's (as a daily driver not a track car) but Jebus man you seem to bash them every chance you get. Just curious. :chug:

Its pour not poor. Do you really hate imports so much or are you just giving these guys shit? I'm not a huge import fan except for BMW's (as a daily driver not a track car) but Jebus man you seem to bash them every chance you get. Just curious. :chug:

I know its "pour", typo.

I don't mind imports. BMW's and such are real nice cars. I just hate jap cars and the whole "tuner scene", its just gay as hell. Small 4 and 6 cylinder engines, farts cans, and ugly body kits are just retarded, I don't undrstand how anyone can think its "cool" or looks nice. They are a bitch to work on, most of them break because they have shity powertrains, and they look and sound like shit. Why the hell anyone likes that crap, I don't know.

I know its "pour", typo.

I don't mind imports. BMW's and such are real nice cars. I just hate jap cars and the whole "tuner scene", its just gay as hell. Small 4 and 6 cylinder engines, farts cans, and ugly body kits are just retarded, I don't undrstand how anyone can think its "cool" or looks nice. They are a bitch to work on, most of them break because they have shity powertrains, and they look and sound like shit. Why the hell anyone likes that crap, I don't know.

I know it was a typo but was just pointing it out. :chug: I understand where you are coming from now. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :chug:

http://twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1564836&forum=general&dtSearch=0

How about 402 HP and 450 FT LBS on stock turbos/intercoolers, and injectors. You should really research before you spew information.

Specialty Z also made 450 RWHP and 500 FT LBS on a stock turbo car. So you apparently have not checked your information within the last 3-4 years or so.

Read my post again..16 psi? No way a Z on the stock turbos are making 400rwhp on 16 psi. Those turbos are smaller than the Supras stock CT12's.

I know it was a typo but was just pointing it out. :chug: I understand where you are coming from now. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :chug:

No prob, glad you can see what I'm talking about :nod:

"Well got my 300ZXTT on the dyno the other day. Put down 405.32 RWHP and 442.94 lb/ft or torque, on stock turbos, intercoolers and injectors! The record for most HP on stock turbos for my car is 420, and ive never even been tuned! In about 3-4 months i should have my Intercooler and Injectors, and hopfully have been tuned. Just lettin yall know! This print out is just HP, the other print out with HP and TORQUE got messed up and gonna have to scan again, enjoy!"

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"Well got my 300ZXTT on the dyno the other day. Put down 405.32 RWHP and 442.94 lb/ft or torque, on stock turbos, intercoolers and injectors! The record for most HP on stock turbos for my car is 420, and ive never even been tuned! In about 3-4 months i should have my Intercooler and Injectors, and hopfully have been tuned. Just lettin yall know! This print out is just HP, the other print out with HP and TORQUE got messed up and gonna have to scan again, enjoy!"

Sheet:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/TTDiablo/TTZdyno1.jpg

his point wasnt that it cant be done on stock turbos, its that it cant be done at 16 lbs on stock turbos

Ya I know.. I just wanted to show it could be done on stockers.
I like my LS1, so don't get all buck on me.

his point wasnt that it cant be done on stock turbos, its that it cant be done at 16 lbs on stock turbos

Even maxed out it wont come close to that

No, He said that even maxed out won't come close to that.

"No LS1 can hang with a stock 300ZX."

"No LS1 can hang with a stock 300ZX."

Who the fuck said that?? :jest:

No LS1 can hang with a stock Nissan Pulsar, and thats that.

I sure couldnt lol

I'm not a troll. And yes, I've been in an LS1 (a C5 vette). The interior didn't impress me much. But I wouldn't mind owning one. From the outside, they look sweet. We thought about getting an LS1 trans am instead of a 3rd Stealth. But my husband decided he wanted a 2g stealth more. BTW, of all the cars I've owned ('94 Taurus, '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee TSi, '99 Grand Prix GT, '96 Stealth R/T) the Stealth has BY FAR given me the least trouble. So in my experience, domestics are not as reliable as imports. It also gets lots of attention, which I don't mind....

I guarantee someone would point out that your modded (lightly I know)TT car ran a stock F-body time.

True, but a STOCK LS1 has about 300rwhp and runs mid 13s on average. A STOCK 2g TT has 240-250awhp and runs mid-high 13s on average. Our Stealth had about 290awhp (educated guess) when it ran the 13.16. Whp-wise, it takes BPU mods for a Stealth to be equal with a LS1. And they run comparable times. Rwd is a MUCH better platform for a drag car. AWD is better for an all-around car, and tough to beat on the street. To each their own.......

Melissa

I'm not a troll. And yes, I've been in an LS1 (a C5 vette). The interior didn't impress me much. But I wouldn't mind owning one. From the outside, they look sweet. We thought about getting an LS1 trans am instead of a 3rd Stealth. But my husband decided he wanted a 2g stealth more. BTW, of all the cars I've owned ('94 Taurus, '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee TSi, '99 Grand Prix GT, '96 Stealth R/T) the Stealth has BY FAR given me the least trouble. So in my experience, domestics are not as reliable as imports. It also gets lots of attention, which I don't mind....



True, but a STOCK LS1 has about 300rwhp and runs mid 13s on average. A STOCK 2g TT has 240-250awhp and runs mid-high 13s on average. Our Stealth had about 290awhp (educated guess) when it ran the 13.16. Whp-wise, it takes BPU mods for a Stealth to be equal with a LS1. And they run comparable times. Rwd is a MUCH better platform for a drag car. AWD is better for an all-around car, and tough to beat on the street. To each their own.......

Melissa

well it appears that you care more about interiors, and that is your choice i personally care more about performance for my dollar. And the f body interior is not the best but i sure fit better in it then i do in a stealth or mustang.

It's not that I care more about interiors, but it is a big part of the car. Getting into a C5 vette and seeing the same interior as an S-10 pickup is sorta lame. It is kind of a letdown, IMHO, to see a nice car, then get into it and the interior sucks. Plastic dashboards and doors don't do it for me. Usually, the more expensive the car is, the nicer it is as a whole. Inside and outside.

i sure fit better in it then i do in a stealth or mustang.

How would you know unless you've ever sat in one. There is more room than you would think.

I think most people care about performance for their dollar. They just pick the car that meets their needs the best. You like F-bodies, I like Stealths. Neither of us is wrong, we just want different things performance-wise. An F-body is by far a better drag car, but its hard to beat AWD on the street. People are way to defensive on here. If it's not american made, it sucks. In general, the germans and japanese produce better cars then we do here. Its a fact, deal with it.

It's not that I care more about interiors, but it is a big part of the car. Getting into a C5 vette and seeing the same interior as an S-10 pickup is sorta lame. It is kind of a letdown, IMHO, to see a nice car, then get into it and the interior sucks. Plastic dashboards and doors don't do it for me. Usually, the more expensive the car is, the nicer it is as a whole. Inside and outside.



How would you know unless you've ever sat in one. There is more room than you would think.

I think most people care about performance for their dollar. They just pick the car that meets their needs the best. You like F-bodies, I like Stealths. Neither of us is wrong, we just want different things performance-wise. An F-body is by far a better drag car, but its hard to beat AWD on the street. People are way to defensive on here. If it's not american made, it sucks. In general, the germans and japanese produce better cars then we do here. Its a fact, deal with it.

I have rode in one i actually raced the guy who has it and it is a damn good runner but i am 6'3" and i just did not fit as well in it as i did in an f body. Trust me i have and i am not blowing smoke. But i will agree that japan makes better every day ccommuter cars but not specialty built cars for example trucks and fast cars. And you also have to deal with a more expensive price tag with an import. I would have had to pay quite a bit more then i did if i wanted an import that would be as fast as my camaro and still have good reliabality.

But i will agree that japan makes better every day ccommuter cars but not specialty built cars for example trucks and fast cars.

Define "fast cars"

Define "fast cars"

You know the answer to that. Honda's, Toyota's, Scions, Tibby's, and anything from Nissan. LS1's are slow pieces of crap. :devil:

Define "fast cars"

like low 13's or better

like low 13's or better

lol :zzz:

So, drag racing then? Not everybody sees "fast cars" as in a straight line.

So, drag racing then? Not everybody sees "fast cars" as in a straight line.

or on a road coarse

lol :zzz:

what is your idea of a fast production car?

1) Most people define fast as 12s and quicker. 13s are quick. 14s are OK. 15s and up are slow. Some people are freaks though and anything slower than 11s sucks. Its relative.

2)300ZXs can be running upgraded turbos that appear/sound/behave almost exactly like stock. Lots of guys running 13Gs and such on there. So maybe that guy has that without knowing it. 400WHP is pretty nominal in a decent 300Z. Those cars have a lot of stupidly restrictive parts stock that when upgraded do a lot to wake the car up. IIRC the crank pulley weighs like 40Lbs on them for some lame reason.

3)Who cares about fit an finish. 300Zs were far more expensive than F-Bodies of the same year, and for that matter F-Bodies of future years. Of course they have better interiors. Vettes have better interiors than Evos too. Kinda makes sense.

4)People who rice out 300Zs and talk about drifting suck and should not be allowed to own a car with that much power.

5)Let it go OP. And keep going to the track. His time will come :)

I think most people care about performance for their dollar. They just pick the car that meets their needs the best. You like F-bodies, I like Stealths. Neither of us is wrong, we just want different things performance-wise. An F-body is by far a better drag car, but its hard to beat AWD on the street. People are way to defensive on here. If it's not american made, it sucks. In general, the germans and japanese produce better cars then we do here. Its a fact, deal with it.

So first its your opinion that Jap cars are more "reliable" than American cars, now its a "fact" :eyes:

Considering you own a Stealth (Mitsubitchi) you should be the last one to be talking about reliability. I've seen some piss poor build quality and reliability before, but the Stealth/3000GT is one of the worst. Interior is crap, engine is crap, transmission is crap, transfer case is crap, turbos are crap, the whole damn car is a pile of crap. Those cars are known for being broken down more often then they are up and running.

I've owned nothing but American cars, but my family's had a variety of both japanese, german, and American vehicles. My last car was a '90 Cavalier with 220,000 miles on it, all original engine and transmission. Drove like a champ and its still on the road right now. My Grand Prix has 158,000 miles on it, and the old 3800 S/C is still running like the day it was new. I can make a nice list for you of all the piece of shit jap cars I've had to deal with if you't like, maybe you'll get a reality check of what's reliable and what isn't.

So first its your opinion that Jap cars are more "reliable" than American cars, now its a "fact" :eyes:

Considering you own a Stealth (Mitsubitchi) you should be the last one to be talking about reliability. I've seen some piss poor build quality and reliability before, but the Stealth/3000GT is one of the worst. Interior is crap, engine is crap, transmission is crap, transfer case is crap, turbos are crap, the whole damn car is a pile of crap. Those cars are known for being broken down more often then they are up and running.

I've owned nothing but American cars, but my family's had a variety of both japanese, german, and American vehicles. My last car was a '90 Cavalier with 220,000 miles on it, all original engine and transmission. Drove like a champ and its still on the road right now. My Grand Prix has 158,000 miles on it, and the old 3800 S/C is still running like the day it was new. I can make a nice list for you of all the piece of shit jap cars I've had to deal with if you't like, maybe you'll get a reality check of what's reliable and what isn't.


Lets face it, all manufactures have made turds at one point or another. Doesn't matter if they are Japanese, American, English, French, German, Italian, Chinese, or Indian car companies. Give me a nameplate, and I can tell you at least 3 turd cars they've made.

Every manufacturer has their fair share of shitty cars. THAT is a fact. 4th gen F-body's happen to not be on that list. I think we can say that is a fact.

I noticed that your list of domestic cars only has 1 GM vehicle on it. You can't really base "All domestics are crap" off of like 3 cars.

People always talk about the vette interior and how shitty it is. I own an S-10 and I can tell you it is a lot better than that.

You also have to look at weight. The curb weight on a vette is pretty damn low. Lets start bolting up a polished aluminum dash with billet knobs and wood grain inlays. Lets give it 48 way adjustable seats with a massager and a built in ball scratcher while we're there.

That is definitely not where the corvette is meant to go. It started out as a bare bones American sports car. They have made some compromises in the past 2 generations. Now there is a HUD, navigation, a decent sound system, and nicer seats among other things.

You have to realize if you want to have your cake and eat it too buy a $200k ferrari. Then get passed at the track by a Z06.

Quit trolling an Fbody forum spouting "facts" that are opinions no one cares about and buy a real car.

I just saw a thread today where a guy has 260,000 miles on his head/cam/stall LS1 camaro. Reliability is a moot point.

StealthX3, do yourself a favor and refrain from posting on here.

lol @ "Its a fact"

who let the mullet king out of his trailer again

I think it boils down to how one person care for a car. The maker has a little to do with it. Yes I seen some dodge,chevy,cars and trucks with over 200k on the clock. Oh and fords. Sorry! But if you treat it right it will treat you right. But if your a ditsy dumb ass who race their car and drive the piss out of it and throw shitty parts on it the yes it will take a shit on you. You should treat your car they way you drive it. If your a racer then yes its more work to keep it up. If its your dd and racer thats even worse. But if its just your dd then it is not so Bad.



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I think that American car companies make the best sports car dollar for dollar and i know that GM has def. been making some badass regular cars to. Just look at the new malibus n silveradoes. They are gorgeous buts thats just my oppinion

who let the mullet king out of his trailer again

I don't know, go back inside before your neighbors call the cops again retard.

I have rode in one i actually raced the guy who has it and it is a damn good runner but i am 6'3" and i just did not fit as well in it as i did in an f body. Trust me i have and i am not blowing smoke. But i will agree that japan makes better every day ccommuter cars but not specialty built cars for example trucks and fast cars. And you also have to deal with a more expensive price tag with an import. I would have had to pay quite a bit more then i did if i wanted an import that would be as fast as my camaro and still have good reliabality.

My old Frontier ('05) actually costs a few thousand less than a comparable Colorado... V6/6spd, 265hp and 284lb/ft :)

I don't know, go back inside before your neighbors call the cops again retard.

that was retarded, you fail. give up.

in the end though its still a frontier lol

in the end though its still a frontier lol

Yet it has more power and is bigger than the crappy Colorado.

My old Frontier ('05) actually costs a few thousand less than a comparable Colorado... V6/6spd, 265hp and 284lb/ft :)

well you got a deal but in general everyone agrees that imports cost more. What is your point that some can be found for less? That is true, but not usually the case.

My point was that depending on the kind/class of vehicle you're looking for, imports can sometimes be cheaper or equal in price to a comparable domestic. In the case of my Frontier, even if it had been $3k MORE than the Colorado, I still would have gotten it. The Colorado/Canyon is a big joke in my book.

I dnt know about that i have a friend with one n its pretty nice. Its comfy, reliable n gets decent gas mileage. Oh and its a chevy lol

My point was that depending on the kind/class of vehicle you're looking for, imports can sometimes be cheaper or equal in price to a comparable domestic. In the case of my Frontier, even if it had been $3k MORE than the Colorado, I still would have gotten it. The Colorado/Canyon is a big joke in my book.

Colorado won't be a "joke" when it gets a V8 next year. Its a capable truck - decent interior, stout chassis, nice looking, affordable - but in fully loaded crew cab 4x4 form, the I5 is just not enough.

The Frontier is garbage just like the Titan, they stick a powerful engine in it to try and get people to buy into it. Too bad the chassis and transmission and just about everything else about the truck still sucks.

that was retarded, you fail. give up.

The truth hurts, doesn't it trailer trash??

I dnt know about that i have a friend with one n its pretty nice. Its comfy, reliable n gets decent gas mileage. Oh and its a chevy lol
Mine was bigger, cheaper, considerably more powerful, and got ~23-25mpg average... add in the fun factor with the 6spd manual (I even took it to the track), and that made it more than good enough for me ;)
Colorado won't be a "joke" when it gets a V8 next year. Its a capable truck - decent interior, stout chassis, nice looking, affordable - but in fully loaded crew cab 4x4 form, the I5 is just not enough.

The Frontier is garbage just like the Titan, they stick a powerful engine in it to try and get people to buy into it. Too bad the chassis and transmission and just about everything else about the truck still sucks.

Well tell you what... when you drive one 20k miles in 3 months (yes, that's 200 miles a day) then you can try and educate me on how much "garbage" it is ;) :gtfo:

The truth hurts, doesn't it trailer trash??

its funny how you always call me trailer trash but i think its the other way around ignorant fuck. its funny how stupid you are.

you should have been a blowjob

Its a capable truck - decent interior, stout chassis, nice looking, affordable - but in fully loaded crew cab 4x4 form, the I5 is just not enough.


is this a joke? decent interior? LOL

Hey! I was trailer trash..I think. I mean I grew up in a trailer in arkansas and my cousin was hot. hmmmmm I miss those days:(

who let the mullet king out of his trailer again

Ahahahaha




I just hate jap cars and the whole "tuner scene", its just gay as hell. Small 4 and 6 cylinder engines, farts cans, and ugly body kits are just retarded, I don't undrstand how anyone can think its "cool" or looks nice


Thats cool that you think that, but too bad nobody cares about your shitty opinion.

1. Not everybody has the same taste
2. not every import has fartcans and retarded bodykits. Ive owned a lot of imports and none of mine had any of that bullshit.

I think maybe he means Ricer scene instead of tuner scene. Most Tuners have respect for our cars as well as theres...and have a lot of knowlege about both. Some people get a kick out of beating a V8 with a 4 banger. I think its that underdog thing going on.

I think maybe he means Ricer scene instead of tuner scene. Most Tuners have respect for our cars as well as theres...and have a lot of knowlege about both. Some people get a kick out of beating a V8 with a 4 banger. I think its that underdog thing going on.

No he obviously does not know the difference between a walmart mexican ricer and a real tuner. Hes just an ignorant dumbass. I live in the south I deal with these kind of people on a daily basis trust me, they really do think like that.

No he obviously does not know the difference between a walmart mexican ricer and a real tuner. Hes just an ignorant dumbass. I live in the south I deal with these kind of people on a daily basis trust me, they really do think like that.

I've gone to walmart, I'm mexican..... does that make me a ricer?:confused:

I grew up in the south too. I know what you are talking about sad to say. But its not just the south.

I've gone to walmart, I'm mexican..... does that make me a ricer?:confused:

Why would going to WalMart make you a ricer? HAHAH JK!

I've gone to walmart, I'm mexican..... does that make me a ricer?:confused:
No disrespect im talking about the dudes with the walmart performance parts on their crappy civics

No disrespect im talking about the dudes with the walmart performance parts on their crappy civics

I like the Spongebob floormats from Wal Mart. I think they could make a yellow Corvette look sick!

I think maybe he means Ricer scene instead of tuner scene. Most Tuners have respect for our cars as well as theres...and have a lot of knowlege about both. Some people get a kick out of beating a V8 with a 4 banger. I think its that underdog thing going on.

no he really hates anything that doesnt have an american make in front of it, no matter how fast or how nice. ignorance is bliss i guess.

True car enthusiasts dont care where the car is made. A fun car is a fun car.

I like the Spongebob floormats from Wal Mart. I think they could make a yellow Corvette look sick!

These would go awsome with my vette :lol:
http://veautomotive.com/img/492f32316d6e65456572746d4c.jpg

Well said! I have been saying that for years. A fun car is a fun car regardless of where its from:)

True car enthusiasts dont care where the car is made. A fun car is a fun car.

These would go awsome with my vette :lol:
http://veautomotive.com/img/492f32316d6e65456572746d4c.jpg

DO IT!

:werd: Caravaggio aint got nothing on Spongebob interiors....:lol:

True car enthusiasts dont care where the car is made. A fun car is a fun car.

So because I will NEVER buy an import nameplate (for economic/trade imbalance reasons, NOT because I think they are all "slow" or "shitboxes"), that means that I just CANNOT be a "true car enthusiast", right??

WHY, because YOU (and the other import fanboyzz) say so??! :nono:
Please show me where this is written down in stone as law/definition.

So because I will NEVER buy an import nameplate, that means that I just CANNOT be a "true car enthusiast", right??

WHY, because YOU (and the other import fanboyzz) say so??! :nono:
Please show me where this is written down in stone as law/definition.

I think you misunderstood him. No offense.

So because I will NEVER buy an import nameplate (for economic/trade imbalance reasons, NOT because I think they are all "slow" or "shitboxes"), that means that I just CANNOT be a "true car enthusiast", right??

WHY, because YOU (and the other import fanboyzz) say so??! :nono:
Please show me where this is written down in stone as law/definition.

haha way to not understand the post at all, then start calling names

no he really hates anything that doesnt have an american make in front of it, no matter how fast or how nice. ignorance is bliss i guess.

He was talking shit about my 240sx til I told him what was under the hood....:bang:

So because I will NEVER buy an import nameplate (for economic/trade imbalance reasons, NOT because I think they are all "slow" or "shitboxes"), that means that I just CANNOT be a "true car enthusiast", right??

WHY, because YOU (and the other import fanboyzz) say so??! :nono:
Please show me where this is written down in stone as law/definition.

Well I'm NEVER gonna buy a McLaren F1, but it's still an awesome car. Just because you wouldn't/can't buy something, doesn't mean you can't acknowledge its merits :judge:

Oh come on! Buy a McLaren F1..nobody will think less of you for it on here...unless you put a fart can and a Turbo logo on it.

Well I'm NEVER gonna buy a McLaren F1, but it's still an awesome car. Just because you wouldn't/can't buy something, doesn't mean you can't acknowledge its merits :judge:

Could not agree with you more!
The key word is in bold in your post above.
I almost always acknowledge a car's; merits/performance/performance potential.
I only question the ridiculous, over-the-top, WRONG BS that comes about from 16 year olds playing their 'telephone game' with certain worshipped imports (in other words their urban legends about these rides is all of a sudden accepted as fact:nono: ).

I just refuse to be told that I MUST "respect" (or want to own) a certain make, model or nameplate in order to be considered a "true enthusiast".
As much as most of you just cannot comprehend this, there IS a difference between acknowledgement and respect (EVEN if you think it is only semantics).

So you don't/can't respect the fact that Supras have gone 9s (maybe faster?) on stock shortblocks, and 8s on stock 6spds? And you can't respect the fact that the RB26DETT and 2JZ-GTE *can* hold over 1,000hp on the stock shortblocks? Just because somebody can acknowledge AND respect that, doesn't make them a "fanboi." :judge:

But SleeperCibby was not saying you MUST do anything. He was just saying a fun car is a fun car regardless of what country its from. He was not saying that unless you own them all you don't know. It seemed like you were being to hard on him for saying that.

So you don't/can't respect the fact that Supras have gone 9s (maybe faster?) on stock shortblocks, and 8s on stock 6spds? And you can't respect the fact that the RB26DETT and 2JZ-GTE *can* hold over 1,000hp on the stock shortblocks?

No. Because I do not "respect" inanimate objects, especially ones that (at one time, when purchased new at least) did exclusively support (could NOT claim transplant builds for these!) what I view as an economic/trade enemy of ours (yes, even though we traded/still trade with them, albeit however biased to their advantage<-and this last bit is the WHOLE point!!).
Respect is something that can only pertain to/be applicable to living, breathing, people. You know, human beings. OK?
Just like the racism that all of you love to paint the ones who will only buy domestics with (WRONGLY) can only be applied to the act of hating a specific race of PEOPLE.
These are not terribly difficult points to understand/comprehend, but it seems import defense vehemency clouds one's vision/thoughts.

Just because somebody can acknowledge AND respect that, doesn't make them a "fanboi." :judge:

Yes, you are right.
But when they worship and claim to be willing to give their right and left nuts for one of them (especially over ANYTHING else out there), then that is most definitely the epitome of fanboyism.

Yes, you are right.
But when they worship and claim to be willing to give their right and left nuts for one of them (especially over ANYTHING else out there), then that is most definitely the epitome of fanboyism.

you called several of us fanboys at one time, where did we ever say anything like this?

basically we said they have a good engine or theyre nice cars.

Imports suck, imports rule, domestics suck, domestics rule, this thread has been touched by the finger of a balllicker.

Imports suck, imports rule, domestics suck, domestics rule, this thread has been touched by the finger of a balllicker.

True, but I dont think anybody came here claiming domestics suck.

Just like daily driver i will not buy a foriegn car jsut for the fact that they are driving our economy down plus they are still gay lol

buy used, problem solved

its funny how you always call me trailer trash but i think its the other way around ignorant fuck. its funny how stupid you are.

you should have been a blowjob

You are trailer trash. All you do is call names and talk shit, stop stealing wifi from your neighbors trailer and get off the internet.

Ahahahaha

Thats cool that you think that, but too bad nobody cares about your shitty opinion.

1. Not everybody has the same taste
2. not every import has fartcans and retarded bodykits. Ive owned a lot of imports and none of mine had any of that bullshit.

Too bad for you, because I'll still post it whether you like it or not. You can sit there and cry like a little bitch all you want, its funny for me.

Thats great that you've owned a lot of riceburners. Go get yourself a cookie.

No he obviously does not know the difference between a walmart mexican ricer and a real tuner. Hes just an ignorant dumbass. I live in the south I deal with these kind of people on a daily basis trust me, they really do think like that.

Thats what ever ricer says.

"Yo dawg I'm not a ricer, I'm a tuner" :eyes:

Sure you are, and so is everyone else with a Honda Civic :eyes:

Thats what ever ricer says.

"Yo dawg I'm not a ricer, I'm a tuner" :eyes:

Sure you are, and so is everyone else with a Honda Civic :eyes:

You know you may be going a little far with some of your posts here and in the Evo thread. Its my opinion and you can of course ignore it but damn man.