Pred Z ? about 224/224 .568/.568 110+4
03-12-2008, 09:33 AM
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Pred Z ? about 224/224 .568/.568 110+4 Seen your posts in a thread back in '05 about this cam. What are the street manners like on this cam? I'm guessing it's pretty rough? I like the 380rwtq at 3000 rpm. This is the kind of torque curve i'm looking for--alot down low.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...=402326&page=2
How would the above cam match up against the one you suggested here-
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/869124-224r-vs-tr224.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...=402326&page=2
How would the above cam match up against the one you suggested here-
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/869124-224r-vs-tr224.html
03-12-2008, 09:43 AM
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The 110+4 is a very peaky cam, does exactly as seen in that thread, low rever and massive trq lo>mid range.
Since 2005 the XFI lobes came into play and the 224/224 111+3 XFI/XE-R cam will have similar output as the XE/XE 110+4 but will carry a bit further in the rpms
The XFI/XE-R should make another 10/15 rwhp extra properly setup.
I have no doupt that in a M6 + bolt ons + (LS6 intake and healthy motor) that the 224/224 XFI/XE-R will make at leat 400 rwhp and equal mount of trq
If I would set it up, I could do the same in a A4 (I've done it here for a guy with 01 z28)
Since 2005 the XFI lobes came into play and the 224/224 111+3 XFI/XE-R cam will have similar output as the XE/XE 110+4 but will carry a bit further in the rpms
The XFI/XE-R should make another 10/15 rwhp extra properly setup.
I have no doupt that in a M6 + bolt ons + (LS6 intake and healthy motor) that the 224/224 XFI/XE-R will make at leat 400 rwhp and equal mount of trq
If I would set it up, I could do the same in a A4 (I've done it here for a guy with 01 z28)
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What will the lope be like on either of these cams? Will it be tolerable on the street or are these cams more for the strip? My relative tolerance level for lope would be anything similar to a tr224. Are these both custom ground cams or is there a sponser that stocks them?
03-12-2008, 11:43 AM
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You might want consider going to 224/228 .581/.588 110+0 and make more HP and TQ..great street cam good lope and peaks @ 6300 rpms .. comp cams will grind you one .. good street manners you can put it in 6th gear @ 55 mph and it will drive like it is stock ... you will need a good tune to make any cam work .. 
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03-12-2008, 03:03 PM
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The motor make plenty of power low, mid, and up top..peaks at 6300 rpms...I moved a couple of months ago and I'm not sure where the dyno sheet is these days..I'll have to see if I can find it and post it up for you...I have a very good set of TEA 5.3 heads milled down to 54cc and use the .040 Cometic head gaskets for a good quench ... I am more than happy about the way the car performs..I ran a much larger cam for 45,000 miles before I went to this grind... I prefer this one.
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03-12-2008, 09:59 PM
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A 224 cam on a 110 ICL has an Intake Valve Closing Point at 42 degrees, and should peak around 6100 - 6200. Adding four degrees exhaust duration increases the overlap two degrees (at the same LSA) so the idle would be just a bit dirtier, and the potential to carry the top end a little higher.
The more you advance the cam, the stronger the torque in the low revs, but you do trade power up top. The VE's look better IMO if you use the next smaller lobe and less advance.
The more you advance the cam, the stronger the torque in the low revs, but you do trade power up top. The VE's look better IMO if you use the next smaller lobe and less advance.
