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Old 04-03-2008, 10:06 AM
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Red face PCM - MADZ28 (Madtuner) or PCMforless?

Ok guys and gals, I know that I am probably gonna get a lot of feedback on this and that is what I want. I have done a lot of research and have even spoken to both Bryan and Ion at PCMforless and Madtuner, but want to see what everyone thinks. I have a 383 in need of a good tune (don't have the cash for a dynotune) and I currently use CATS tuner with my cable just fine, but don't have a lot of experience in the detailed stuff. I've been thinking about the email tune as $75 is pretty cheap for a good tune, but can't decide on which one to use. Anyone recommend one company over the other and personal experience?
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I have a Madz28 tune from Ion. Runs rich, but that is expected from a mail order tune. Only problem I had was that it took a VERY long time (with multiple calls and emails) for him to return my $300+ PCM exchange refund.
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Originally Posted by DAVE00
Ok guys and gals, I know that I am probably gonna get a lot of feedback on this and that is what I want. I have done a lot of research and have even spoken to both Bryan and Ion at PCMforless and Madtuner, but want to see what everyone thinks. I have a 383 in need of a good tune (don't have the cash for a dynotune) and I currently use CATS tuner with my cable just fine, but don't have a lot of experience in the detailed stuff. I've been thinking about the email tune as $75 is pretty cheap for a good tune, but can't decide on which one to use. Anyone recommend one company over the other and personal experience?
Try reading the 1000 posts like this. I went with PCM for less, no problems as of yet.
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madz28..works great. i got my pcm back within a week and car runs awsome
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you can go either way personally i got a madz28 tune and i liked it.
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either way you go you will be fine
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Lol it's crazy how many threads there are on this subject. Either will work I've always had good luck with PCMforless.
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I had a madz tune on my LT1 car and got the PCM back same week if I remember. Car ran a little rich but it also had nitrous plugs in it.

Like others have said you can't go wrong with anyone that you listed.
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i got a Bluecat tune, he is in kentucky.
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Originally Posted by InsaneAuto86
I have a Madz28 tune from Ion. Runs rich, but that is expected from a mail order tune. Only problem I had was that it took a VERY long time (with multiple calls and emails) for him to return my $300+ PCM exchange refund.


Really? I had no problems with Ion, very fast turn around on refund
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+1 for Ion and MadZ, he's great!
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i talked to mad Z too and he anwered me right away all the time! I know someone happy with a tune from him too. He would be my next choice but the previous owner used bluecat and he is great too.
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Ion did my initial tune after the heads/cam mods, and a dynotune by Speed Inc. a few months later.
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i got a mail order from pcm and got my car adjusted on the dyno, its a 93 so basically fuel pressure and air/fuel ration, the dyno tune was only like 130 bucks, look into it maybe, idk what year ur car is, its easier for 93's.
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Ion did my pcm when I installed my LE2 h/c setup. It dyno'd 392rwhp with Ion's tune and after a dyno tune, 8 months later, it dyno'd 407rwhp uncorrected. Not bad for a mail order tune.
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I'm probably going to go with Ion, from MadZ28, because he's out of DeKalb, IL. Which is only a couple hours from me. There's really not going to be much of a difference between the two though. I started a thread about mail-order tunes a while back, and, I believe it was Brian, from PCM4Less, that actually got into the thread a little bit. They seem to have very good customer service and, if I remember correctly, he even offered a price match to MadZ28 also.
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One sucks, the others great and vice versa. Those are the answers you're going to get. Go with who ever you want.
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MadZ here and happy with it, I made the choice by location as for I'm maybe an hour or so away from him and wanted it back fast. I also talked to pcm and they were great people. Like I said It was just closer to me to go MadZ



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