Street Racing & Kill Stories - Roush 427R

Last night me and my buddy were rolling down the freeway when I came across a new style mustang with some sort of wheels and body kit. I pulled nest to him and saw some decals that said 427R and it had Roush emblems on the fenders, there was a hood scoop that said "Supercharged". So we were rolling side by side and I down shifted to 3rd@60mph (not a good speed but it didnt matter) he took off and I pulled even and put a car on him where he shut down @ 100mph. I lined back up wiyh him @ 50 and this time was waiting in 2nd gear, I gave him the jump and proceded to put 3-4 cars on him up to 120mph. It was a pretty quick little mustang, but not quite enough for the Z, I asked him on the feeder road how much power and he said it dynoed 495, I assume he had a few minor bolt ons because I looked it up and and stock it has 427HP. Here is some info on the car, it looked REALLY good from the rear.

http://www.roushperformance.com/mustang_427r.shtml

Last night me and my buddy were rolling down the freeway when I came across a new style mustang with some sort of wheels and body kit. I pulled nest to him and saw some decals that said 427R and it had Roush emblems on the fenders, there was a hood scoop that said "Supercharged". So we were rolling side by side and I down shifted to 3rd@60mph (not a good speed but it didnt matter) he took off and I pulled even and put a car on him where he shut down @ 100mph. I lined back up wiyh him @ 50 and this time was waiting in 2nd gear, I gave him the jump and proceded to put 3-4 cars on him up to 120mph. It was a pretty quick little mustang, but not quite enough for the Z, I asked him on the feeder road how much power and he said it dynoed 495, I assume he had a few minor bolt ons because I looked it up and and stock it has 427HP. Here is some info on the car, it looked REALLY good from the rear.

http://www.roushperformance.com/mustang_427r.shtml

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Owner was an idiot. In this month's MMFF an auto 427R ran a 12.4@108 with stock tires and 12.2@109 with DR's. They should be no problem for an LS1 with LT's

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Owner was an idiot. In this month's MMFF an auto 427R ran a 12.4@108 with stock tires and 12.2@109 with DR's. They should be no problem for an LS1 with LT'sYea my Z06 traps in the 120's, he said it dynoed 495 so I assume it was modded. Oh well, at least it looked good, lol. But 12.20's out of a stock automatic mustang aint that bad anyway. Quicker than most stock 01-04 Z06's.

Good kill!

I'm pretty impressed that it went 12.4 with only a 108 trap speed on the stock tires. Auto LS1's have trapped 106-107 stock but not hit anywhere near that et. Wonder if they come with a converter from Roush?

Good kill!

I'm pretty impressed that it went 12.4 with only a 108 trap speed on the stock tires. Auto LS1's have trapped 106-107 stock but not hit anywhere near that et. Wonder if they come with a converter from Roush?Not sure, the car I ran was a manual for sure, Im sure the manual tranny cars trap 112-114 stock, but I just never understood the Saleen and Roush stangs when ford offered a Cobra which come with a forged 4V motor and more power in an overall better package for much less, when with the Saleen and Roush cars all you are getting is a SC stock motor 2/3V car which is pretty much nothing more than a good looking ticking timebomb.

IIRC, the 427HP is at the flywheel, not the wheels. Sad to pay that much and get so little.

Jim

IIRC, the 427HP is at the flywheel, not the wheels. Sad to pay that much and get so little.

Jim

Yeah...I saw a show and they said flywheel also...

Sweet kill! Theyre gorgeous cars, but wouldnt pay an arm, and a leg for it.

Not sure, the car I ran was a manual for sure, Im sure the manual tranny cars trap 112-114 stock, but I just never understood the Saleen and Roush stangs when ford offered a Cobra which come with a forged 4V motor and more power in an overall better package for much less, when with the Saleen and Roush cars all you are getting is a SC stock motor 2/3V car which is pretty much nothing more than a good looking ticking timebomb.

Ever try and take a Stage 3 Roush or a S281E through any corners? ;)

The 427R is rated at the flywheel at 427 horses. For 495rwhp he would have a pulley swap along with some other bolt ons.

No converter from Roush.

And yes the manual cars can trap from 110-113mph or so.

Ever try and take a Stage 3 Roush or a S281E through any corners? ;)

The 427R is rated at the flywheel at 427 horses. For 495rwhp he would have a pulley swap along with some other bolt ons.

No converter from Roush.

And yes the manual cars can trap from 110-113mph or so.Im sure my poor old Z06 could give those mustangs a run for their money on a road course, in fact, I think it turns, brakes and accelerates better than them, I think it might be ugly. But those 99+ Saleens were the shit as far as how they looked!

he was full of shit on the power. they make like 375rwhp stock and he would hafta change the blower to make 495, those blowers hafta kill themselves to make 450rwhp. and if he was makin 495 rwhp he should have been able to keep up alot better

Since when does a 427R run low 12's? I thought they were good for high 12's? :confused:

Great kills, regardless of the power it was making.

Since when does a 427R run low 12's? I thought they were good for high 12's? :confused:

The new ones are rated 435 flywheel hp and are available with an auto. The stick ones probably run the stereotypical high 12's at 110-112, but MM&FF just got an auto one to go 12.2 @ 109 on drag radials and 12.4 @ 108 on stock tires.

There are still too many people that can't grasp the difference between flywheel and rear wheel horsepower

The new ones are rated 435 flywheel hp and are available with an auto. The stick ones probably run the stereotypical high 12's at 110-112, but MM&FF just got an auto one to go 12.2 @ 109 on drag radials and 12.4 @ 108 on stock tires.


Damn thats what the shelby gt500 runs with Dr's...need mo mods! :nod:

Damn thats what the shelby gt500 runs with Dr's...need mo mods! :nod:

gt500 is quicker than 12s w/ tires

gt500 is quicker than 12s w/ tires



O'rly? I was running beside one last weekend, He was running consistent
12.4's on M&H Dr's. But by looking at his 60' it could of done better.


Heres his slip

60' 2.1
1/4 12.47
MPH 114.74

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8072/gt500nj7.jpg

O'rly? I was running beside one last weekend, He was running consistent
12.4's on M&H Dr's. But by looking at his 60' it could of done better.


my bad brain isnt working today, for some reason i was thinking 13s but then i said 12s? i dono i'm retarded dont mind me.

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Owner was an idiot. In this month's MMFF an auto 427R ran a 12.4@108 with stock tires and 12.2@109 with DR's. They should be no problem for an LS1 with LT's

lmao, last time i read anything about these cars, car and river couldnt get one faster than a 13.2, so i dont know what magazine your reading, also i have raced a local one more than 3 different ocassions and i beat him in my stock ss every time., he gets outta the hole pretty good too

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Owner was an idiot. In this month's MMFF an auto 427R ran a 12.4@108 with stock tires and 12.2@109 with DR's. They should be no problem for an LS1 with LT's

lmao, last time i read anything about these cars, car and river couldnt get one faster than a 13.2, so i dont know what magazine your reading, also i have raced a local one more than 3 different ocassions and i beat him in my stock ss every time., he gets outta the hole pretty good too

haha can you read

I posted this in the other thread,but here ya go..........
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f369/flash0080/roush.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f369/flash0080/roush2.jpg

i saw that and asked what mustang he read, i had no clue thats what it was called.

51K for a Mustang. :barf:

^How about the new Extreme Saleen? 100K by the time your're out the door fully optioned! :(

^How about the new Extreme Saleen? 100K by the time your're out the door fully optioned! :(


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How do these guys justify asking someone to pay that much for a car that at the end of the day is still a Mustang. They aren't bad cars but over 50K they just aren't worth it. JMO.

Im sure my poor old Z06 could give those mustangs a run for their money on a road course, in fact, I think it turns, brakes and accelerates better than them, I think it might be ugly. But those 99+ Saleens were the shit as far as how they looked!

Unless you have some new springs/shocks and new brakes those S281E's could really surprise you.

Unless you have some new springs/shocks and new brakes those S281E's could really surprise you.Stock brakes, stock shocks, stock springs. And I would still not worry about an S281E on the track or roadcourse. Z06's are just to light, and considering mine accelerates quicker than a S281E I think it would be a rough day for the Mustang.

Stock brakes, stock shocks, stock springs. And I would still not worry about an S281E on the track or roadcourse. Z06's are just to light, and considering mine accelerates quicker than a S281E I think it would be a rough day for the Mustang.

Do you know much about the S281E's? Stock suspension and you think you can handle it?...WOW.

Do you know much about the S281E's? Stock suspension and you think you can handle it?...WOW.
I know about them pretty well, used to drive a Mustang and know the exact specs of that car. Rated@475 flywheel, dyno 420 or so, I am at 437 and weight like 500 pounds less. I have 13" Brakes stock, and 3220 RACEWEIGHT aint much weight to stop either. As far as the suspension they are not really comparable, unless they use the 99-04 IRS, but Im 99% sure it is just a strait axle 8.8 with maybe some adjustable suspension parts and good brakes.

I know about them pretty well, used to drive a Mustang and know the exact specs of that car. Rated@475 flywheel, dyno 420 or so, I am at 437 and weight like 500 pounds less. I have 13" Brakes stock, and 3220 RACEWEIGHT aint much weight to stop either. As far as the suspension they are not really comparable, unless they use the 99-04 IRS, but Im 99% sure it is just a strait axle 8.8 with maybe some adjustable suspension parts and good brakes.

I wasn't refering to power, but suspension. I'm not very familiar with road racing, I'll be the first to admit that, but doesnt' the low end TQ of the Extreme fair better coming out of a turn?...Maybe I'm just ignorant to your setup as well.

They did use a solid axle, but if you think a solid setup can't be built to handle corners....you are soarly mistaken. Carrol Shelby himself has stated IRS isn't necessary given you can make a Solid rear handle just as well. It's all in knowledge of your setup.

An no offense, but 'used to drive a mustang' doesn't mean you know about all of them. Hell....I have owned seven mustangs in total, but I dont' know everything about stangs.

I know about them pretty well, used to drive a Mustang and know the exact specs of that car. Rated@475 flywheel, dyno 420 or so, I am at 437 and weight like 500 pounds less. I have 13" Brakes stock, and 3220 RACEWEIGHT aint much weight to stop either. As far as the suspension they are not really comparable, unless they use the 99-04 IRS, but Im 99% sure it is just a strait axle 8.8 with maybe some adjustable suspension parts and good brakes.

Rated at 550 at the flywheel for the 06+ models last I checked and dyno a bit more than a stock C6ZO6.
Does have a SRA 8.8" and with 14" slotted and vented 4 piston front brakes.

Rated at 550 at the flywheel for the 06+ models last I checked and dyno a bit more than a stock C6ZO6.
Does have a SRA 8.8" and with 14" slotted and vented 4 piston front brakes.

I was thinking New edge's so I didn't comment on his 475. I'm thinking he was too.

I was thinking New edge's so I didn't comment on his 475. I'm thinking he was too.

Probably. When I think of Saleen though I never think of the New Edge's for whatever reason...
For reference, the 05 S281E was rated at 500bhp and the 06+ were rated at 550bhp and 490?lb-ft.

2002 Electron Blue Corvette Z06 - Comp Cam 228/228 588/588 114, Dynatech 1 3/4" Longtubes, Off Road X-Pipe, B&B PRT Catback, Blackwing, Dynotune, Lowered on Stock Bolts, Built T56, Z06 Chromes, 305 Nitto Drags 11.xx@12x


Ashamed of what your car runs?

Ashamed of what your car runs?

haha clickin off some 11.9s at 120 or 121

haha clickin off some 11.9s at 120 or 121

No man, C5 Z06s have done that stock didn't you know?

No man, C5 Z06s have done that stock didn't you know?

Here is the fast list from Corvette Forum. There are 6 running 11.9's stock down to the tires.

C5 Z06 Bone-Stock Times

1--11.783 @ 116.90--1.818--J-Rod---------'02
2--11.818 @ 117.26--1.783--Ranger--------'02 11/03 Slip
3--11.844 @ 117.91--1.761--Gary2004Z06--'04 11/07 Post 229, Slip
4--11.93x @ 119.xx--1.xxx --Esoteric-------'0x
5--11.97x @ 118.80--1.90x--GMHTP--------'04 03/04
6--11.99x @ 117.61--1.xxx --02Z06Racer---'02
7--12.048 @ 115.92--1.866--pwrshfd-------'02 12/03
8--12.08x @ 115.95--1.83x--Pray ----------'02 01/06 Slip
9--12.09x @ xxx.xx --1.79x--UVETTA -------'03
10-12.205 @ 117.96--1.91x--Nat04Z06 -----'04

11-12.21x @ 112.xx--1.87x--Blue Angel----'02 07/04
12-12.227 @ 115.09--2.011--ZR WON -----'01 04/04 Post 6
13-12.22x @ xxx.xx --1.77x--holedgr-------'02
14-12.25x @ 117.xx--1.xxx --J Z06 --------'04 05/06
15-12.27x @ 115.16--1.957--SpeedFreak81-'03 07/07
16-12.2xx @ 1xx.xx --2.xxx --My1stZ ------'03

LOL you believe a bone stock Z06 ran 11.78? :rotflmao:

LOL you believe a bone stock Z06 ran 11.78? :rotflmao:

Have you ever been over to Corvette Forum? I'd say it's accurate just knowing how they are over there. They also have a stock C6 ZO6 that ran a 10.98.

I call complete bullshit on the 427r running 12.4 at 108 on street tires. Looks like to me their trying to sell some cars. There's a guy around here with one and he hasn't done anything besides get his ass whipped. What kinda 60ft would you have to cut to run that? About a 1.7 I'm guessing. Not happening, especially when they're saying it wouldn't hook up in the article. If it was cutting 1.7's on stock tires they would be singing its praise. They're not that fast.

I call complete bullshit on the 427r running 12.4 at 108 on street tires. Looks like to me their trying to sell some cars. There's a guy around here with one and he hasn't done anything besides get his ass whipped. What kinda 60ft would you have to cut to run that? About a 1.7 I'm guessing. Not happening, especially when they're saying it wouldn't hook up in the article. If it was cutting 1.7's on stock tires they would be singing its praise. They're not that fast.

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It's MMFF. They don't bullshit

I call complete bullshit on the 427r running 12.4 at 108 on street tires. Looks like to me their trying to sell some cars. There's a guy around here with one and he hasn't done anything besides get his ass whipped. What kinda 60ft would you have to cut to run that? About a 1.7 I'm guessing. Not happening, especially when they're saying it wouldn't hook up in the article. If it was cutting 1.7's on stock tires they would be singing its praise. They're not that fast.



+1000

LOL you believe a bone stock Z06 ran 11.78? :rotflmao:

Um... they have. 11.7 is also the record for the new LS3 Vettes, IIRC.

Um... they have. 11.7 is also the record for the new LS3 Vettes, IIRC.

I know of the 11.7 LS3 vette your talking about. Didn't they find out that he was modded when he claimed he was stock??

Um... they have. 11.7 is also the record for the new LS3 Vettes, IIRC.

I know of the 11.7 LS3 vette your talking about. Didn't they find out that he was modded when he claimed he was stock??

He is laughing about my post from the Corvette fast list for C5's. I posted the list from Corvette Forum and he found it funny. Anyone that has been over there knows how anal they are about those lists. I don't really care if he believes it or not but I'd say its an accurate list of the fastest stock Corvettes. The C6 list has a car in the high 10's.

I know of the 11.7 LS3 vette your talking about. Didn't they find out that he was modded when he claimed he was stock??

From what I read the car had a tune installed on it, but it was on the stock tune for that run. Maybe, maybe not, but either way that car would have been in the 11s on the stock tune.

i guess MMFF and evan smith was full of shit when they ran a 12.89

From what I read the car had a tune installed on it, but it was on the stock tune for that run. Maybe, maybe not, but either way that car would have been in the 11s on the stock tune.

Well, if so, that's pretty freakin' stout

i guess MMFF and evan smith was full of shit when they ran a 12.89

Exactly

Exactly

Im pretty sure hes talking about the ls1 running that time.

Ashamed of what your car runs?yes, yes I am

Im pretty sure hes talking about the ls1 running that time.

+1 MMFF ran a bone stock LS1 Camaro to a 12.8 and did a write up about it. So no, their Mag is definitely not BS.

good kill! i wish we had people with those around here would love to run one

There are still too many people that can't grasp the difference between flywheel and rear wheel horsepower

not only that everyone adds the max potential gain from each bolton to their hp rating he probably did that too:eyes: