68 camaro rack and pinion question
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68 camaro rack and pinion question
I have a 68 camaro, the question I have is it worth the money to install a rack and pinion like unisteer or flamming river? How much improved response in steering will i see comparied to the stock steering i already have?
Also with one of these racks, will my 2002 ls1 engine with a modified oil pan from say S&P still fit with out any problems?
I havent seen any post regarding these two together.
The reason im concidering a rack and pinion is i aleady need to rebuild my gear box and front end. So i will have to spend the money on one or the other. What do people think about what i should do?
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Also with one of these racks, will my 2002 ls1 engine with a modified oil pan from say S&P still fit with out any problems?
I havent seen any post regarding these two together.
The reason im concidering a rack and pinion is i aleady need to rebuild my gear box and front end. So i will have to spend the money on one or the other. What do people think about what i should do?
thanks
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Hi, I'm in the same dilemma. What I did was buy an 02 F-body r&p ($95 shipped), right now I'm measuring my subframe and doing some research to make this work the best.
Check this very usefull links:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ht=rack+pinion
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...light=unisteer
Check this very usefull links:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ht=rack+pinion
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...light=unisteer
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The main reason to go to a rack is to shave a few pounds. The stock steering setup with a good box works as well as or better than the rack kits. Whichever system you go with, even stock, you'll also need to modify the spindles, steering arms, and/or tie rod ends to reduce bump steer.
If you want to really step things up to the next level, scrap the whole subframe and suspension and replace it with an AME subframe.
If you want to really step things up to the next level, scrap the whole subframe and suspension and replace it with an AME subframe.
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well i cant afford a new sub frame with the on going ls1 swap at this time. As RODDER quoted you "also need to modify the spindles, steering arms, and/or tie rod ends to reduce bump steer." the conversion kit that comes with unisteer has new tie rods, and steering arms that comes with there rack and pinion kit as a package deal.
For my suspension i already have the global west upper and lower control arms and 2" lowering springs in the front.
For my suspension i already have the global west upper and lower control arms and 2" lowering springs in the front.
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Yes, I started down the rack and pinion swap road last fall and after spending time on pro touring and lateral g forums, and posts from guys from SC&C and from ATS, I scrapped the rack and pinion and stuck with the box. I have the global west arms in, the del-a-lum bushings in the stock lower arms, hotchkis springs and sway bar, with bilstein shocks. I already had a newer z28 quick ratio box in there, so i stayed with it. I wrestled with the lee box upgrade and decided "maybe later". Well, I've been driving the car for a couple weeks now, and I have NO regrets about not doing the unisteer rack. The car handles Really nice, with little or no bumpsteer. My biggest problem throwing it into turns now is me trusting it. I took a 180* offramp yesterday with no one around and room to slide if it was going to slide, and finished the ramp with a big smile on my face. AWESOME!! To sum it up, "You don't need no stinkin' rack and pinion". I may step it up next winter with the ATS tall spindles and brakes, but no regrets and no rack here.
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seems to me most everyone is against a rack and pinion swap! well I still havent decided yet; either i replace all my front end, center link,idler pitman arms and worn out gear box or go rack and pinion dont know yet.