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Old 04-28-2008, 09:16 PM
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Default What has to be done for an LS1 to run E-85?

Just wondering what changes are needed for an LS1 to be able to safely run on E85? I heard its like 110 octane so it would be good for nitrous right? I'm rebuilding me engine right now and wouldnt mind having it so that I COULD run it if I wanted to.
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I'm on e85 and love it. There is a sticky in the fueling forum.
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+1 for loveing it. Adjust injector size and pump for 30% more fuel. Tune AFR @ 9.765 normal and 8.4 for WOT. Maybe a bit more for the nitrous.
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Originally Posted by vaticano
+1 for loveing it. Adjust injector size and pump for 30% more fuel. Tune AFR @ 9.765 normal and 8.4 for WOT. Maybe a bit more for the nitrous.
Yeah thats what I been reading, now my question is this can these cars be tuned to run on either E85 OR 93? We have E85 around here, but its about half hour away so if I'm up that way maybe I'd run it but probably not all the time. I would just like to have the option. My 383 is about done I have 42lb/hr injectors for it and a walbro 255.
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how much does e85 even cost.
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I've been looking into a way to run both but havn't found one without having to buy a conversion kit. It's adout 3-400 bucks but they claim you can turn any vehicle into a flex fuel vehicle. It plugs into the injectors and the factory harness plugs into it.
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Originally Posted by Dragkid1917
how much does e85 even cost.
I am currently paying $2.39 a gal.
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Originally Posted by Dragkid1917
how much does e85 even cost.
About .80 cheaper then premium around here.
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Originally Posted by vaticano
I've been looking into a way to run both but havn't found one without having to buy a conversion kit. It's adout 3-400 bucks but they claim you can turn any vehicle into a flex fuel vehicle. It plugs into the injectors and the factory harness plugs into it.
Where is this sold at? Any more info on this??
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gas city has it in nw subs. of IL
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Anyone know where to get this conversion kit or has anyone figured out a way to tune these cars to fun on either fuel without being tuned for just 1 or the other?
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so its like 110 octane, its o2 sensor safe, a conversion kit is only like 3 or 4 hundred bux, itll probably run better on it, and its 80 cents to a dollar cheaper per gallon? is this what im understanding?.
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It may be 80 cents cheaper but it takes 33% more to do the same job gasoline does so 2.40 a gallon of e85 will do the same and last as long as a gallon of gas that costs about 3.20 a gallon. Not a huge savings if you have to go through the hassle of tuning, injector swap, and line swaps.

On the plus side, its high octane ****.
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I was reading that all 96 and newer didnt need any line swaps, anyone else have info om this??
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Originally Posted by brad8266
It may be 80 cents cheaper but it takes 33% more to do the same job gasoline does so 2.40 a gallon of e85 will do the same and last as long as a gallon of gas that costs about 3.20 a gallon. Not a huge savings if you have to go through the hassle of tuning, injector swap, and line swaps.

On the plus side, its high octane ****.
I use it my stock DD truck with 4.10 gears and only loose 60 miles a fill up, which correlates to 5.5 gal. I save $22 a fill up and with the 5.5 gal. loss I am still ahead by 9 bucks. And thats all city driving, it does better on the highway. You don't have to change the fuel lines only bigger injectors and pump. And you don't really have to change those either because even if it runs lean at wot, it wont knock.
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Originally Posted by Dragkid1917
so its like 110 octane, its o2 sensor safe, a conversion kit is only like 3 or 4 hundred bux, itll probably run better on it, and its 80 cents to a dollar cheaper per gallon? is this what im understanding?.
Yes. Except it's only 105 octane. You can google E-85 and it will pull up several conversion kit sites. There is one that is working to convert to E-85 and will be EPA approved. http://www.cicca.org/newtech/E85conversionkits.html

Change2E85 just raised their price to $499.

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http://e85vehicles.com

Hi Tech is a sponsor that does it in MN

http://www.hitechmotorsport.com/inde...d=29&Itemid=42
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A sponsor, even better.
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Any sponsers on here sell any conversion kits?
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I just got an email from high tech and the conversion they sell only works for Fords. I'm thinking you could just add more fuel from the injector flow table and increase the amount the fuel trims will trim and be pretty close to a flex fuel vehicle. But a true flex fuel vehicle will add timing as well. My o5 sierra has the tables for flex fuel but does't have the sensor.



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