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Old 05-03-2008, 02:09 PM
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I have a fordged crank and the drill bit supplied with the ATI pinning kit isn't making a dent. I went to home depot and got a titanium bit and no luck with that either.
Anyone have a suggestion on what bit to use and where I can get one? I can't move on to finish the install of the ProCharger until I pin the crank.

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Just keep going at it until it penetrates it.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy P
Just keep going at it until it penetrates it.
been through the drill bit supplied and 2 others. It is not penetrating it.
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A carbide bit on some sort should get results. You're going to need a lot of carbon for the hardness you're going to need to punch through. I'm not sure on Ti's hardness to punch through your forged crank. You might want to ask someone up at Home Depot for some further advice on what would be best for drilling through your material.

Also, have you used a little punch to help the bit keep centered? There might be some other method, or a different bit to get the hole started, then the other drill bits might work after that.

If all else fails, call up a machinist. Odds are they can do it for you, or they'll have the insight to help you find what you need.

Edit: Instead of calling up the blower's manufacturer for a drill bit, call up the crank's manufacturer to see what they recommend.
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There is no such thing as a Ti drill bit, it is a Ti N coating and marketing. (the coating is what gives it the gold color)

Your problem is getting through the outer hardened layer of the crank, you will need either a M42 cobalt, or pure carbide bit. Carbide is harder than the hubs of hell, but also brittle. you have to be carfull or it will just shatter. You can also try grinding through the hardened outer shell where you want to drill.
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I used a solid cobalt drill bit, made by Sandvik. A friend sourced it for me from his work.

I could not believe how easy it drilled the hole !!!!! I tried several HSS bits, and they barely even marked the crank.
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I've heard of how fun this can be, a buddy of mine had to do this too. Not sure what bit he used but I could probably ask him. I agree with asking a machinist for some help too, they have done wonderous work for me in the past. I needed one today ironically but no shops open
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one of the greatest tips on hard metals a slow speed heavy feed, press hard and turn the speed down on the drill
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Originally Posted by STALL UP
one of the greatest tips on hard metals a slow speed heavy feed, press hard and turn the speed down on the drill
Wont make any difference if the workpiece is harder then the drill bit.



Use the correct bit, and it will drill easily. Solid cobalt.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Wont make any difference if the workpiece is harder then the drill bit.
Use the correct bit, and it will drill easily. Solid cobalt.
EXACTLY!
Use the right tool for the job (very simple and safe concept)
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So the supplied bit with the pinning kit will not work? This is not good news seeing as though Im pinning my crank today.
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The stock crank is easy to drill.


A forged steel crank requires the correct drill bit.
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I screwed mine up and the holes were wallowed out after drilling it, so I had a machine shop key it.
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cutting oil is your friend
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Originally Posted by ZDOG
cutting oil is your friend
That will only help a little if you do not have the correct drill bit.

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