they really that weak?
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they really that weak?
How many of you guys are running big cams with stock rod bolts on a older LS1 ?
Ive been throwing around the idea of finally sliding the ms4 in I bought almost a year ago without changing the rod bolts, what you guys think?
Ive been throwing around the idea of finally sliding the ms4 in I bought almost a year ago without changing the rod bolts, what you guys think?
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not me i done when i had the small cam.....seen too many "spun a bearing"threads.....
but alot have done it...I guess its a peace of mind thing.....
90 bucks arp bots
oil pan gasket 20 bucks
engine thousands....
the kmember isnt that bad to drop.....
but alot have done it...I guess its a peace of mind thing.....
90 bucks arp bots
oil pan gasket 20 bucks
engine thousands....
the kmember isnt that bad to drop.....
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well my short block making over 600 rwhp is on stock bolts, and it is a 1999 car. been spinning to 7200 rpm for the last season with a t-rex cam and no issues. all in the tune and if you drive it every day or on the weekends.
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I honestly think it is a "feel safer" factor for most. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to gaurentee that a rod bolt won't or can't break, but I know many people running good size cams, including myself, with stock rod bolts and spinning to 7k with no problems for multiple racing seasons.
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^^^ LOL , when you play you break things. It just goes along with playing. Some play harder than others and dont break things and some dont have that kind of luck. I saw 3 different engines last week with broken rods, ok well two I saw the carnage photos of, one I'm selling an engine to the guy. Its called stress and fatigue and the oem parts are only made to handle so much.
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There is really alot of debate about this if you search. The ARP's are a little bigger and heavier and even ARP recomends to resize the rod ends after installing their bolts. A lot on here are running them successfully without resizing though The Katechs on the other hand require no resizing and are almost the same weight as stock and are a direct replacement. They are pricey though and when I looked at them last year they were on backorder. If I were going to do it bolt in stock bottom = katech and rebuild = ARP.
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thanks for the input guys, looks like on my next off days the cam may be going in.
I dont drive the car much and when I do its pampered most of the time,so the amount of time its in those higher rpms are alot less than alot of other cars so im hoping I'll be ok..
I dont drive the car much and when I do its pampered most of the time,so the amount of time its in those higher rpms are alot less than alot of other cars so im hoping I'll be ok..