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Old 06-07-2008, 10:14 AM
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I have a 98 m6 I want to get a cam that is going to give me a little more. I was wandering which would be best. I will be keeping my stock heads or getting some 243 cast maybe. here is the profile of the cam I was thinking about. Cam specs are 204/211 525/525 @.050 any input would be apprecaited.

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Originally Posted by Swaie
I have a 98 m6 I want to get a cam that is going to give me a little more. I was wandering which would be best. I will be keeping my stock heads or getting some 243 cast maybe. here is the profile of the cam I was thinking about. Cam specs are 204/211 525/525 @.050 any input would be apprecaited.
durations too small, I don't even know if the swap would be worth it. Why not just get one of the off the shelf sleeper cams?

GM HotCam 219/228 .525/.525 112 for instance. Great cam for the guy who just wants a little extra power, but nothing absurd.
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Originally Posted by landonew
durations too small, I don't even know if the swap would be worth it. Why not just get one of the off the shelf sleeper cams?

GM HotCam 219/228 .525/.525 112 for instance. Great cam for the guy who just wants a little extra power, but nothing absurd.
Agreed, that duration (204/211) is barely more than stock (198/209). Nothing wrong with a small cam at all, just make the swap worth while..

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id go with a Thunder Racing 224
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Originally Posted by 03Sssnake
Agreed, that duration (204/211) is barely more than stock (198/209). Nothing wrong with a small cam at all, just make the swap worth while..
+1 step it up a little
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I do want a pretty noticable difference. I can stand a little lope also just nothing very radical. I also don't want to have to spin the motor too high either. Does the GM HotCam 219/228 .525/.525 112 fit...or the thunder racing 224? Which is better?
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Go with the 224, You will need to upgrade your springs though...
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What kind of power gains would I be looking at and who has the lowest price on this cam.
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Originally Posted by Swaie
What kind of power gains would I be looking at and who has the lowest price on this cam.
Thunder Racing is the only company who makes it. Hence TR224. You will pay a little under $400 shipped.
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The old "whats the best cam question". It all depends on a few factors:

Drivability
What Redline you want
What parts you have now
Where you want the power
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Another thing to keep in consideration is that bigger cams require more mods and tuning.
Some people dont want to have to buy long tube headers and new intake and a new clutch and then a new rear -end and have to drop 300-500 on tuning.

I haven see one post in this thread that looked at the big picture, except for maybe the previous post.

I offer a beginner cam package for people who want a little more but not the hassles and cost of a bigger cam. If anything I would look at the Edelbrock beginnner package

No tune required. It's perfect for someone not wanting to break the bank just to pick up a few more ponies. Dont fall into the the typical thing on here .. some people think the size of their cam and how much compression they run is a bragging right.. LMAO!

I sell cams from 207 duration to 256. It's all about the combination and application.
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You said you wanted to maybe get stock 243 heads. Excellent idea IMO. I think that a TR224 coupled with the 243 heads would be an excellent combo. Through a M6 I'd say that it's going to make around 400 rwhp. I'm not too knowledgeable on porting/milling heads, but I do know that you should be able to mill the heads a little with a smaller cam like that as well. A combo like this with a good tune should drive like stock, or very close, and make plenty of usable power.
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Yea...see if i am going to go thru the trouble to install a cam i don't want to install a childs play cam. I hear alot of people tend to spin rod bearings after they get their cams installed. Is the major cause of this the fact that the rpm band is push up so high?
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i didnt go anything crazy, and couldnt be happier. I got a 226/230 .609/.588 custom grind camshaft from Patrick G and its simply awesome. Stock driveability, and power comes in at the same time, it not abit sooner then stock and pulls hard all the way to redline (which I have set at 6700, but you could easily keep it to 6500 or so and still make great power). The 243 castings are also a great plan!
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Originally Posted by Swaie
Yea...see if i am going to go thru the trouble to install a cam i don't want to install a childs play cam. I hear alot of people tend to spin rod bearings after they get their cams installed. Is the major cause of this the fact that the rpm band is push up so high?
I'd go with a ported oil pump to lower the chances of spinning a bearing some people say upgrade rod bolts as well if you plan on spinning very high, but with a tr224 I wouldn't worry too much about a spun bearing
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Originally Posted by Swaie
Yea...see if i am going to go thru the trouble to install a cam i don't want to install a childs play cam. I hear alot of people tend to spin rod bearings after they get their cams installed. Is the major cause of this the fact that the rpm band is push up so high?
A cam isn't a bragging right. A new oil pump isnt going to keep your from spining a bearing either. Yes spun bearings can be caused by excessive rpms that are needed with big cams. The engine was built from the factory with certain power levels and rpms in mind. Yes it will handle reving to the redline from the factory but not all day long. Big cams need the rpms to be effective. Put 2 and 2 together, Some guys spin the crap out of them with no issue. Some guys spin bearings on a stock cam.

The search button is your friend. Adding a cam is not without risk.

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tsp 224r
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That cam you listed looks like a 01 Zo6 cam... go with the hotcam and LS6 springs if you want to stick to stock rpm's.
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just my 2 cents, the 2002 ls6 cam was a little too small. 550 lift, 218 /204 dur. idles great as low as 600 rpm, peak horse at 5700 rpm on dyno, yes it will keep revving above that. biggest dissappointment was the dyno numbers. i dont rev above 6k. you will need ls6 springs or better (insurance). if i change cams, my next choice will be the 224 /565 lift, 115 lsa. (i'm on the conservative side)




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