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SSmokin99
06-09-2008, 10:00 PM
SS: GMMG, LID, FTRA, P&P TB, & LS6 INTAKE (324.57rwhp ???rwtq)
Mach 1: Off road X-pipe & SLP loudmouth (290rwhp 312rwtq)

Me and my friend went to race a couple of weeks ago and he ended up getting me by a car. We started in 2nd gear (55mph) and I had a passenger that's about 120-125lbs or so. By mid 4th gear he had a full car on me and we shut down. Mid pipes on mustangs must really make a difference. When we raced last time when he had his stock H-pipe I pulled him by about 1.5 cars, but we both didn't have passengers then. I've seen him beat other LS1's too. He also raced one of our friends WS6 and beat him by about a full car too. The WS6 had a passenger too and its an A4. The WS6 ran a 12.9 I believe. I've ran several Mach 1's and his is the fastest I've seen so far. Also I don't have torque #'s because the dyno wasn't reading my torque or anyone elses for some odd reason. Do you guys think if I didn't have a passenger I would've edged him out? I've also needed a new clutch for more than a year now, but I never installed it yet. We'll run em again as soon as my new clutch is in and broken in.


Sarge_13
06-09-2008, 10:10 PM
:bs:
Mach's don't win on here!

SSmokin99
06-09-2008, 10:14 PM
:bs:
Mach's don't win on here!
Haha... Well I'm not ashamed to post a loss. I used to take Mach 1's lightly, but now I know what they're capable of.


ThisLT1
06-09-2008, 11:35 PM
Wide open exhaust on the Stang, With all those revs. Whatd ya expect. You Should have kicked out that passenger and Drove it Harder.:bang:

SSmokin99
06-09-2008, 11:36 PM
Wide open exhaust on the Stang, With all those revs. Whatd ya expect. You Should have kicked out the passenger and Drove it Harder.:bang:

I would've kicked out the passenger IF it wasn't my girlfriend. HAHA...or maybe I should've gave her the boot anyway.

ThisLT1
06-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Ha! If it was the booty call you could have just placed her on the curb .. Next time, have the girl flag a drag race. If you know your car well.

SSmokin99
06-09-2008, 11:51 PM
Ha! If it was the booty call you could have just placed her on the curb .. Next time, have the girl flag a drag race. If you know your car well.

I've only raced from a dig 2 times. I'm not very good from the dig.

Super28Sport
06-10-2008, 01:29 AM
:bs:
Mach's don't win on here!

LOL! I think you should've won this race OP. I've ran many, many full exhaust Machs (two of which had the LM, raspy as hell) and they were only able to yank a small bit out the hole but i'd end up pulling by late 2nd/early 3rd. Easily. This was when my car was Catback only.

SSmokin99
06-10-2008, 01:38 AM
LOL! I think you should've won this race OP. I've ran many, many full exhaust Machs (two of which had the LM, raspy as hell) and they were only able to yank a small bit out the hole but i'd end up pulling by late 2nd/early 3rd. Easily. This was when my car was Catback only.

My friend can drive his ass off tho... I know there's A LOT of people who don't know how to drive their cars.

ThisLT1
06-10-2008, 01:47 AM
LOL! I think you should've won this race OP. I've ran many, many full exhaust Machs (two of which had the LM, raspy as hell) and they were only able to yank a small bit out the hole but i'd end up pulling by late 2nd/early 3rd. Easily. This was when my car was Catback only.

I don't want to do it but, :bs: Ex: One friend Had an 04 Mach1, Slp longtubes, orX, LM2, 4.10's tuned. He was giving strong running Full Exhaust Ls1's some trouble before and after gears. Im just not seeing it happening unless your SS traped 111.

180ls1
06-10-2008, 01:49 AM
well the girl in your car is good to the equivilant to like a 15 horsepower loss give or take. And i think you said it, if you need a new clutch get it. If you cant get your peak power down that might be killing you. But good runs.

180ls1
06-10-2008, 01:51 AM
I don't want to do it but, :bs: A good friend Had an 04 Mach1, Slp longtubes, orX, LM2, 4.10's tuned. He was giving FullExhaust Ls1's trouble before and after gears. Im just not seeing it happening unless your catback car traps 111.

well 4.10's really wake up those cars and a tune is worth a good amount also.

ThisLT1
06-10-2008, 02:02 AM
Who puts Headers on and doesn't tune? Yes each race has its own outcome. But catback cars chasing down stout Mach's. Thats stretching it a chunk.

CuNfUzEd
06-10-2008, 08:14 AM
I like the looks of Mach1's. Good kill. I raced a guy around here that had a super charged one. He claimed to be the fastest street car in town........................he wasn't.

PewterScreaminMach
06-10-2008, 08:22 AM
Nice race. That passenger probably made the difference between your loss and a ridiculously close race, especially since you said your buddy can drive. Definitely do it again without the passenger before changing anything (well, swap your clutch if it's giving you problems or you'll fry your tranny and wreak all sorts of havoc on your car).

PewterScreaminMach
06-10-2008, 08:23 AM
I like the looks of Mach1's. Good kill. I raced a guy around here that had a super charged one. He claimed to be the fastest street car in town........................he wasn't.

That sounds like the fastest street car in town to me. I'm gonna need a video to validate your claim that he wasn't. :jest:

gregsss
06-10-2008, 08:26 AM
i think if you've needed your clutch changed for a year, i would say your clutch is holding you back, it should be a good run but with you out in front at the end. :D

CuNfUzEd
06-10-2008, 08:45 AM
That sounds like the fastest street car in town to me. I'm gonna need a video to validate your claim that he wasn't. :jest:

Very bad video. Almost ashamed to post it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-Mach1-vs-SS_38322.htm


He wanted the dig because he said it would be a closer race.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-MACH1-vs-SS_38326.htm




Disclaimer: No N2O was used in the violation of this Mach1.

ta_06374
06-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Very bad video. Almost ashamed to post it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-Mach1-vs-SS_38322.htm


He wanted the dig because he said it would be a closer race.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-MACH1-vs-SS_38326.htm




Disclaimer: No N2O was used in the violation of this Mach1.





PWND! :D

rk_2000_Z/28
06-10-2008, 09:05 AM
i think if you've needed your clutch changed for a year, i would say your clutch is holding you back, it should be a good run but with you out in front at the end. :D

Agreed.

The extra weight from a passenger made a bit of difference, but I don't think enough to make up over 1 full car length. If you are having clutch issues, than that's what I would guess made a big difference.

Get a new clutch and run this guy again with no passengers and see what happens.

PewterScreaminMach
06-10-2008, 09:48 AM
Very bad video. Almost ashamed to post it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-Mach1-vs-SS_38322.htm


He wanted the dig because he said it would be a closer race.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Super-charged-MACH1-vs-SS_38326.htm




Disclaimer: No N2O was used in the violation of this Mach1.
Ha! Wow, that was sad. I'm really glad I made that comment because those videos made me day. :jest:
The extra weight from a passenger made a bit of difference, but I don't think enough to make up over 1 full car length. If you are having clutch issues, than that's what I would guess made a big difference.

I'm gonna disagree with this one. A 120 pound passenger in two cars making that kind of power can very well make a 1 car difference. My buddy and I raced all the time (same car as mine but cam only and it makes about 20 more rwhp than mine). When we would race with no passengers, he pulled a car or so, sometimes a little bit more; when he had his girlfriend in the car multiple times and I was alone, we were neck and neck, and I'd even edge him out once in a while. And his girlfriend is a pretty small girl.

AaronK
06-10-2008, 10:57 AM
I'm gonna disagree with this one. A 120 pound passenger in two cars making that kind of power can very well make a 1 car difference. My buddy and I raced all the time (same car as mine but cam only and it makes about 20 more rwhp than mine). When we would race with no passengers, he pulled a car or so, sometimes a little bit more; when he had his girlfriend in the car multiple times and I was alone, we were neck and neck, and I'd even edge him out once in a while. And his girlfriend is a pretty small girl.

I've noticed the same thing. I've ran cars with and and without them having passengers in them and there is a noticeable difference in the results of the race. Power to weight ratio is a huge factor in any race!

NiteRiderWS6
06-10-2008, 12:20 PM
my friend has a bolt on mach 1 and I pull him threw first and second, he comes back up in third and once i hit 4th i start to pull away and im an a4 with light boltons

DarkhorSe_SS
06-10-2008, 02:17 PM
clutch issues :bang:

get it fixed and run it again...

damn!!!!!! :eek: that s/c mach got molested:devil:

nomoneyz
06-10-2008, 03:23 PM
I say you should win if you get your clutch fixed. I'll probably get bs for saying this but my crappy old LT1 was back and forth with a 04 mach1. He had O/R H, spintech mufflers and 4.10s. I probably beat the driver though.

Irunelevens
06-10-2008, 06:15 PM
I say you should win if you get your clutch fixed. I'll probably get bs for saying this but my crappy old LT1 was back and forth with a 04 mach1. He had O/R H, spintech mufflers and 4.10s. I probably beat the driver though.

That Mach would be *capable* of 12s with the right driver... what mods were done to your LT1?

nomoneyz
06-10-2008, 09:43 PM
That Mach would be *capable* of 12s with the right driver... what mods were done to your LT1?

:hijack:
Like I said I probably beat the driver. I just have a cai, cutout, and built trans with a 3200 stall. We went from 50ish to 110 ish.

BTW good death to the OP.

DesertMach
06-11-2008, 07:17 AM
my friend has a bolt on mach 1 and I pull him threw first and second, he comes back up in third and once i hit 4th i start to pull away and im an a4 with light boltons

Was the Mach an A4 as well??, because my Mach is an A4 and 4th is overdrive which is pretty much a no no for racing as to it can destroy the bands and trans.
I am not calling BS, I am just curious if 4th in your A4 is overdrive as well.

Super28Sport
06-11-2008, 12:09 PM
My friend can drive his ass off tho... I know there's A LOT of people who don't know how to drive their cars.

I don't want to do it but, :bs: Ex: One friend Had an 04 Mach1, Slp longtubes, orX, LM2, 4.10's tuned. He was giving strong running Full Exhaust Ls1's some trouble before and after gears. Im just not seeing it happening unless your SS traped 111.

:bs:

Yea I forgot to mention, I did have a Centerforce DF Clutch too. Maybe that helped alittle? Definitely no reason to call BS though on your part, especially when top end power "lacks" in the Machs. Sometimes they'd jump in front from a dig, but could always be reeled right back in. Even with LM+ 4.10s. Guess I should start bringing the camera along for little disputes like this...

"Giving trouble" is a vague statement. Win or Lose would clarify nicely. No way a full exhaust/geared/tuned Mach would hang with an equally modded LS1.