Racer's Lounge - 2009 Zr1 pricing released...
FSANE
06-17-2008, 12:23 PM
l prices include $850 destination charge:
2009 CORVETTE COUPE----$47,895
2009 CORVETTE CONVERTIBLE----$52,550
2009 CORVETTE Z06----$73,255
2009 CORVETTE ZR1----$103,300
2009 CORVETTE COUPE PACKAGES
1LT---- $0.00
2LT----$1545
3LT----$4555
4LT---- $8055
2009 CORVETTE CONVERTIBLE PACKAGES
1LT---- $0.00
2LT---- $3540
3LT---- $6550
4LT---- $10,050
2009 CORVETTE Z06 PACKAGES
1LZ---- $0.00
2LZ---- $3015
3LZ---- $6515
2009 CORVETTE ZR1
1ZR---- $0.00
3ZR---- $10,000
OTHER OPTIONS
$590- D30-color override
$1750- U3U-Navigation
$0.00- CCR
$395- Q44-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 Competition Gray-painted aluminum
$1995- Q8A-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 chrome aluminum
$0.00- Q10-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 silver painted aluminum
$1995- Q76-Wheels, 10 spoke Original design Z06 chrome
$2000- Q6B-Wheels, ZR1 Chrome aluminum
$0.00- Q6A-Wheels, ZR1 sterling silver painted aluminum
$0.00- QG6-Wheels, 5 split spoke silver painted aluminum
$395- QX1-Wheels, 5 split spoke Competition Gray-painted aluminum
$1295- QG7-Wheels, 5 spoke forged aluminum polished
$1850- Q9V-Wheels, 5 spoke forged aluminum CHROME
$395- GU2-performance axle
$695- **6- 2 Tone Seat option
$1195- NPP-Dual mode performance exhaust
$1995- F55- Magnetic Selective Ride Control
$1695- Z51- Performance handling package
$1400- C2L-Roof package-painted and transparent
$750- CC3-Transparent only
$1250- MX0- 6 Speed automatic with paddle shift
$0,00- MN6- 6 Speed manual
$750- 45U- VELOCITY YELLOW
$750- 89U- CRYSTAL RED
$750- 85U- JETSTREAM BLUE
$300- 83U- ATOMIC ORANGE
$1700- R8E-GAS GUZZLER
$490- R8C-Musuem Delivery Option- additional cost above normal destination
FOR RELEASE: 2008-06-17
Corvette ZR1 By The Numbers
Chevrolet announces performance results and pricing for the new ultimate-performance Corvette
DETROIT – The official Corvette ZR1 numbers are in and they're good. Very good:
* $103,300 MSRP (including $850 destination charge)
* EPA-estimated fuel economy of 14 city and 20 highway
* 0-60 mph in 3.4 seconds
* 0-100 mph in 7.0 seconds
* Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph
The Corvette ZR1 also has a top speed of 205 mph (330 km/h), making it the fastest Corvette ever produced and ranking it among the global super cars of commensurate performance. None of those other super cars, however, equals the ZR1's performance-per-dollar ratio.
"The ZR1 is an incredible machine by any measure," said Ed Peper, North American Vice President, Chevrolet. "There's simply no other vehicle in the world that does a better job of balancing performance, price and fuel economy."
Performance perspective
The Corvette ZR1's 0-60 performance is 0.3-second quicker than the already-quick Corvette Z06 and the 0-100-mph performance is nearly a full second quicker - 7 seconds vs. the Z06's 7.9 seconds. It is performance that is equal to or better than many super cars costing substantially more.
"A favorable power-to-weight ratio gives the ZR1 an advantage over the competition and performance that has to be experienced to fully appreciate," said Tom Wallace, Corvette chief engineer. "Of course, on a racetrack, drivers of competitors' cars may appreciate the ZR1 in a whole different manner."
And the racetrack isn't the only place where the ZR1 trumps its super-car competitors – it beats them at the gas pump, too. According to fueleconomy.gov, the ZR1's EPA-rated 14 city and 20 highway mileage ratings beat 2008 competitors such as the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano (11 city / 15 highway); the Lamborghini Murcielago (8 city / 13 highway) and the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (12 city / 19 highway). They're competitive with the Dodge Viper (13 city / 22 highway) and the Porsche 911 GT3 (15 city / 22 highway).
Under the carbon-fiber hood
A new LS9 6.2L supercharged small-block engine powers the ZR1's performance capability. Heavy-duty and lightweight reciprocating components support high-rpm performance, while a new, sixth-generation supercharger (and complementing charge-cooling system) helps the LS9 make big power and torque across the rpm range. The engine is hand-assembled at GM's Performance Build Center, in Wixom, Mich.
In addition to the LS9 engine, the ZR1 is a technology powerhouse, designed with lightweight and unique components that reinforce its performance with a confidant feel on either a highway or road course.
Options
The standard ZR1 comes with accoutrements based on the Z06, including lightweight seats and lightweight content. The available uplevel interior package includes power-adjustable, heated and leather-trimmed sport seats (embroidered with the ZR1 logo); side air bags; Bose premium audio system; navigation system; Bluetooth connectivity; power telescoping steering column; custom leather-wrapped interior available in four colors and more. Chrome wheels are the only other available option on the ZR1. Detailed pricing noted below.
* $103,300 Base MSRP including destination
* $1,700 Gas guzzler tax
* $10,000 Option package
* $2,000 Chrome wheels
About Chevrolet
Chevrolet is one of America's best-known and best-selling automotive brands. With the largest dealer network in the United States, Chevy is the leader in full-size trucks and the leader in sales of vehicles priced $35,000 and above. Chevrolet delivers more-than-expected value in every vehicle category. Chevy cars and trucks have expressive design, spirited performance and great value with standard features usually found only on more expensive vehicles. More information on Chevrolet can be found at www.chevrolet.com.
# # #
CONTACT(S):
Wendy Clark
Chevrolet Communications
Phone: 313-665-5127
E-mail: wendy.clark@gm.com
Vince Muniga
Product Development Communications
Phone: 586-575-1928
E-mail: vince.muniga@gm.com
sslateron
06-17-2008, 12:29 PM
For 100k they can keep it. I guess the engineers got bored, or all that extra money sitting around from La Mans. ;)
FLA02TA
06-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Dealers mark them up much more than that anyway.
04gtoBMXracer
06-17-2008, 04:26 PM
yeah i bet you wont see one in a showroom floor under 150k.
Brian2006
06-17-2008, 04:32 PM
If I had that kind of money, i would instantly buy one. The new ZR1 is supossed to outperform many Ferraris and Lambos that have double the retail value
BLK85
06-17-2008, 05:58 PM
yeah i bet you wont see one in a showroom floor under 150k.
I doubt that. If dealer tried to get 150k for one I would tell them to take a flying leap. For that you can get into 996TT, 997TT, Gallardo, 360, etc. etc. So many better cars for that price.
stoverz28
06-18-2008, 12:08 AM
I doubt that. If dealer tried to get 150k for one I would tell them to take a flying leap. For that you can get into 996TT, 997TT, Gallardo, 360, etc. etc. So many better cars for that price.
Im sorry but the ZR1 would embarrass some of the cars you just listed like the 360 for example. The ZR1 will also be more mod friendly than most supercars, I wouldnt be surprised to see 600-700 rwhp numbers on just a pulley and tune.
Good Post OP!
Damian
06-18-2008, 12:26 AM
For those who say "so much better cars". How do you know? Have you driven a ZR1 yet? The only people who really have a leg to stand on with a statement like that are people who've pushed the car to it's limits and are aware of the differences. Too many magazine mechanics in this world.
The ZR1 is definitely Chevy's "Super car" and deserves the title. It's capabilities are amazing. I can't wait until an after market starts hitting for it. That car is going to make $250,000+ cars less and less desirable for all out power from the factory with a warranty.
AronZ28
06-18-2008, 12:35 AM
I'm still baffled that they don't have a sport seat option, something like a seat offered in a Porshe 911 GT3. Or even something like the seat in a BMW M3, which is supportive, but still comfortable. The stock seats suck ass IMO.
chupr0kabra
06-18-2008, 06:13 AM
Im sorry but the ZR1 would embarrass some of the cars you just listed like the 360 for example. The ZR1 will also be more mod friendly than most supercars, I wouldnt be surprised to see 600-700 rwhp numbers on just a pulley and tune.
Good Post OP!
In what way would those cars be "embarrassed"?
-Mike
BLK85
06-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Im sorry but the ZR1 would embarrass some of the cars you just listed like the 360 for example. The ZR1 will also be more mod friendly than most supercars, I wouldnt be surprised to see 600-700 rwhp numbers on just a pulley and tune.
Good Post OP!
Good the ZR1 could beat any car I listed in a straight line and maybe on the road course. Big deal. You are still driving an expensive Corvette.
For those who say "so much better cars". How do you know? Have you driven a ZR1 yet? The only people who really have a leg to stand on with a statement like that are people who've pushed the car to it's limits and are aware of the differences. Too many magazine mechanics in this world.
The ZR1 is definitely Chevy's "Super car" and deserves the title. It's capabilities are amazing. I can't wait until an after market starts hitting for it. That car is going to make $250,000+ cars less and less desirable for all out power from the factory with a warranty.
I have driven and riden in some of the cars I mentioned they are awesome cars. I have not driven a ZR1 but if its similar to the regular Corvettes just with a lot more power I would still pick the Lambo, Porsche, Ferrari over it.
I dont think the ZR1 is going to make true exotics and supercars undesirable. I think a few exotic owners may dump theirs for this but I dont see people with Murcies, 430s, SLRs going down to this thing.
BTW I love the car but there are so many other cars that I would consider when you get up over 100k.
Gaunt's_Girl
06-18-2008, 01:33 PM
I think 150K is a little exaggerated, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
Personally, for what you're getting I don't think the price is too bad.
As for it's competition against the exotics, we all know it can hang as far as power goes, but when it comes down to it, it's still just a corvette.
I don't think i'll ever own one, unless someone wants to buy me one, but I'd rather spend the 110K on multiple cars :P
Camaroholic
06-18-2008, 02:02 PM
110k will get me over 300 Fieros. :mullet:
I hope they throw a ZR1 across the pond and let the Top Gear guys have a go at it.
stoverz28
06-18-2008, 02:45 PM
In what way would those cars be "embarrassed"?
-Mike
Maybe embarrassed is a little harsh. It's all speculation right now but soon enough it will be put to the test. We'll have to save the argument for that time :punch:.
chupr0kabra
06-18-2008, 02:51 PM
Maybe embarrassed is a little harsh. It's all speculation right now but soon enough it will be put to the test. We'll have to save the argument for that time :punch:.
No harm, no foul. I think the ZR1 is going to be amazing. I will be surprised if it has anywhere near the level of refinement of the other cars listed, though. If I'm going to pay over $100K for a car, it had better be more than just damn fast.
-Mike
ProjectCamaro
06-18-2008, 02:59 PM
I love the ZR1 but for over 100K I would still buy a 600hp Viper and throw a supercharger on it.
Neil 6.0
06-18-2008, 04:10 PM
I think 150K is a little exaggerated, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
Hell, last year in Houston I saw a C6 Z06 marked up to $105K.:eyes:
Lord knows what they'll mark a ZR1 up too.
04gtoBMXracer
06-18-2008, 04:13 PM
^^ there was a z06 in the showroom for 110k, i asked the salesman why it was marked up so much and he said "this aint just any corvette." lol
CrabhartLS1
06-18-2008, 08:09 PM
^^ there was a z06 in the showroom for 110k, i asked the salesman why it was marked up so much and he said "this aint just any corvette." lol
:lol:
ZR1's are badass, and are still cheap as hell for the performance you get compared to other exotics. Not really the point of a supercar to be frugal but i get it, it's more of a technical exercise.
ICEMAN 31
06-18-2008, 09:52 PM
11.3 is nice, with good conditions or maybe a great tire swap and you can dip into 11 flats or 10.99 with a good driver
Damian
06-18-2008, 10:26 PM
I have not driven a ZR1 but if its similar to the regular Corvettes just with a lot more power
You are incorrect. The LS9 ZR1 is anything but a C6 with a lot more power. It has a $15,000 brake system, a better suspension than the Z06, and over 500 million in R&D of the LS9 engine. The ZR1 uses the same rotors in the REAR as the Ferrari Enzo uses in the FRONT.
It is not a hopped up Z06, or C6 with a lot more power. It's a totally different car.
CrabhartLS1
06-19-2008, 12:10 AM
11.3 is nice, with good conditions or maybe a great tire swap and you can dip into 11 flats or 10.99 with a good driver
given that z06's can do 10.99's with a good driver, i would probably expect 9's out of this thing with the right tires.
FLA02TA
06-19-2008, 09:26 AM
I doubt that. If dealer tried to get 150k for one I would tell them to take a flying leap. For that you can get into 996TT, 997TT, Gallardo, 360, etc. etc. So many better cars for that price.
No doubt, but it's a supply and demand thing. There are more people with the cash to throw down on a ZR1 than there are ZR1's.
~JOSHUA
06-19-2008, 09:40 AM
No harm, no foul. I think the ZR1 is going to be amazing. I will be surprised if it has anywhere near the level of refinement of the other cars listed, though. If I'm going to pay over $100K for a car, it had better be more than just damn fast.
-Mike
The Lambos can't keep a clutch in their cars. Fuggin' junk clutches from the Murcs to the Gallardos... And they have all warranties sidestepped. I had a convertable Mucielago here a few months back and the owner had $15k wheels/tires on it and at just 400 miles when the clutch went out they voided his warranty saying his wheels (although the same OD -outside diameter-as stock) were not factory... and he had to pay $11,000 on top of his $450k+ price for the car to repair his clutch... with barely more than 400 miles on the clock! :eyes:
I have a guy that I know (let me sell his $250,000 '67 Corvette 427/435 -1of4black) that has had the worst trouble with his NEW Gallardo. :ripped:
In comparison to a new ZR1 with a full warranty.... I know where I'll spend my money! :usa:
dailydriver
06-19-2008, 02:11 PM
given that z06's can do 10.99's with a good driver, i would probably expect 9's out of this thing with the right tires.
Well very low 10s at least, with drag radials and Ranger (or a driver of his caliber) in near perfect conditions (better than -1000 DA) .
Hell, you know, on second thought maybe you're right, high 9s might be possible with the above. ;) :usa:
WSsick
06-19-2008, 05:25 PM
110k will get me over 300 Fieros. :mullet:
I hope they throw a ZR1 across the pond and let the Top Gear guys have a go at it.
great idea but i think they need to one-up that. i think the release of the zr1 calls for a MASSIVE Top Gear shootout. the problem is what to compare it with. its equipped with so much stuff that it can compete with the LP640, Enzo (which actually, a 5th gear episode proved the F430 Scuderia is faster than that so either the 430scuderia or the FXX), some mercedes AMG/Brabus car but they all are ridiculously priced higher. If you go with price, the GTR (yuck) new viper [even the acr maybe?] or the 997 Turbo. those are all i can think of at the moment. but it really is a tricky car in what to compare it to. price or equipment.
drop dead amazing car no matter what
Owning a $100K+ corvette is like owning a 400 horsepower Civic. You know what it is, a few other people might know what it is, but for most its just another loud honda that will plummet in value faster than you can say "Pinto".
Most enthusiasts that can afford to drop over $100K on a "play" car will want some exclusivity and potential future value. Ask someone with a C4 ZR1 what their car is worth. Its also nice when you spend that much on a car to not see one on the road every 5 minutes.
Dealers will mark them up, but I'll bet money you will be able to buy one at or below sticker within 6-8 months of them hitting showrooms. Why? Hell, they can't sell trucks and SUV's right now between gas prices and the shitty economy, you think these will sell any better?
Aside from all that, for $100K I'd buy a Viper like mine ($38-$40K), twin turbo it ($15K), throw in some beefed up axles and diff and put some bad ass wheels on it and have a better looking, more valuable, faster, more unique, more valuable, and more durable car.
chupr0kabra
06-19-2008, 07:11 PM
The Lambos can't keep a clutch in their cars. Fuggin' junk clutches from the Murcs to the Gallardos... And they have all warranties sidestepped. I had a convertable Mucielago here a few months back and the owner had $15k wheels/tires on it and at just 400 miles when the clutch went out they voided his warranty saying his wheels (although the same OD -outside diameter-as stock) were not factory... and he had to pay $11,000 on top of his $450k+ price for the car to repair his clutch... with barely more than 400 miles on the clock! :eyes:
I have a guy that I know (let me sell his $250,000 '67 Corvette 427/435 -1of4black) that has had the worst trouble with his NEW Gallardo. :ripped:
In comparison to a new ZR1 with a full warranty.... I know where I'll spend my money! :usa:
That's the Gallardo. What about the Porsches mentioned?
Also, you're talking about the drivetrain, which is a little different from what I was talking about. The ZR1 might have a $15,000 brake package, an amazing drivetrain, and a ton of power, but will it handle like a muscle car or a sports car? Will the interior be the same plastic pieces with the same cheap feel (compared to other cars in the price range)?
Also, as I expected, a lot of the talk in this thread has been about straight line performance. When I think of a $100K+ car, I don't want a car that goes very fast in one direction. I want a car that can handle; a car whose interior is comfortable and elegant; a car that is more than just a knuckle-dragging brute. I know I may be in the minority on this one, especially on a site where drag racing is far and away the most popular car-related activity.
I've started looking ahead at what my next car might be, once I'm done with the Camaro. The logical progression is a Corvette (I can't/won't afford a ZR1), because it offers great power, great value, and handles well. However, if you told me to pick between a Porsche Cayman S and a Corvette, I'd REALLY have to think about it. Sure, the Cayman is slower through the traps and more expensive to maintain (the latter factors more into the decision than the former), but until I have sat in and driven each, I'd be unable to make that decision. Call me crazy, but I like to drive more than a quarter mile at a time.
-Mike
cruzc5frc
06-19-2008, 07:20 PM
I'll take a ZR1, please ship to Illinois at your earliest convenience.
l prices include $850 destination charge:
2009 CORVETTE COUPE----$47,895
2009 CORVETTE CONVERTIBLE----$52,550
2009 CORVETTE Z06----$73,255
2009 CORVETTE ZR1----$103,300
2009 CORVETTE COUPE PACKAGES
1LT---- $0.00
2LT----$1545
3LT----$4555
4LT---- $8055
2009 CORVETTE CONVERTIBLE PACKAGES
1LT---- $0.00
2LT---- $3540
3LT---- $6550
4LT---- $10,050
2009 CORVETTE Z06 PACKAGES
1LZ---- $0.00
2LZ---- $3015
3LZ---- $6515
2009 CORVETTE ZR1
1ZR---- $0.00
3ZR---- $10,000
OTHER OPTIONS
$590- D30-color override
$1750- U3U-Navigation
$0.00- CCR
$395- Q44-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 Competition Gray-painted aluminum
$1995- Q8A-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 chrome aluminum
$0.00- Q10-NEW! Wheels, spider design, Z06 silver painted aluminum
$1995- Q76-Wheels, 10 spoke Original design Z06 chrome
$2000- Q6B-Wheels, ZR1 Chrome aluminum
$0.00- Q6A-Wheels, ZR1 sterling silver painted aluminum
$0.00- QG6-Wheels, 5 split spoke silver painted aluminum
$395- QX1-Wheels, 5 split spoke Competition Gray-painted aluminum
$1295- QG7-Wheels, 5 spoke forged aluminum polished
$1850- Q9V-Wheels, 5 spoke forged aluminum CHROME
$395- GU2-performance axle
$695- **6- 2 Tone Seat option
$1195- NPP-Dual mode performance exhaust
$1995- F55- Magnetic Selective Ride Control
$1695- Z51- Performance handling package
$1400- C2L-Roof package-painted and transparent
$750- CC3-Transparent only
$1250- MX0- 6 Speed automatic with paddle shift
$0,00- MN6- 6 Speed manual
$750- 45U- VELOCITY YELLOW
$750- 89U- CRYSTAL RED
$750- 85U- JETSTREAM BLUE
$300- 83U- ATOMIC ORANGE
$1700- R8E-GAS GUZZLER
$490- R8C-Musuem Delivery Option- additional cost above normal destination
FOR RELEASE: 2008-06-17
Corvette ZR1 By The Numbers
Chevrolet announces performance results and pricing for the new ultimate-performance Corvette
DETROIT – The official Corvette ZR1 numbers are in and they're good. Very good:
* $103,300 MSRP (including $850 destination charge)
* EPA-estimated fuel economy of 14 city and 20 highway
* 0-60 mph in 3.4 seconds
* 0-100 mph in 7.0 seconds
* Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph
The Corvette ZR1 also has a top speed of 205 mph (330 km/h), making it the fastest Corvette ever produced and ranking it among the global super cars of commensurate performance. None of those other super cars, however, equals the ZR1's performance-per-dollar ratio.
"The ZR1 is an incredible machine by any measure," said Ed Peper, North American Vice President, Chevrolet. "There's simply no other vehicle in the world that does a better job of balancing performance, price and fuel economy."
Performance perspective
The Corvette ZR1's 0-60 performance is 0.3-second quicker than the already-quick Corvette Z06 and the 0-100-mph performance is nearly a full second quicker - 7 seconds vs. the Z06's 7.9 seconds. It is performance that is equal to or better than many super cars costing substantially more.
"A favorable power-to-weight ratio gives the ZR1 an advantage over the competition and performance that has to be experienced to fully appreciate," said Tom Wallace, Corvette chief engineer. "Of course, on a racetrack, drivers of competitors' cars may appreciate the ZR1 in a whole different manner."
And the racetrack isn't the only place where the ZR1 trumps its super-car competitors – it beats them at the gas pump, too. According to fueleconomy.gov, the ZR1's EPA-rated 14 city and 20 highway mileage ratings beat 2008 competitors such as the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano (11 city / 15 highway); the Lamborghini Murcielago (8 city / 13 highway) and the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (12 city / 19 highway). They're competitive with the Dodge Viper (13 city / 22 highway) and the Porsche 911 GT3 (15 city / 22 highway).
Under the carbon-fiber hood
A new LS9 6.2L supercharged small-block engine powers the ZR1's performance capability. Heavy-duty and lightweight reciprocating components support high-rpm performance, while a new, sixth-generation supercharger (and complementing charge-cooling system) helps the LS9 make big power and torque across the rpm range. The engine is hand-assembled at GM's Performance Build Center, in Wixom, Mich.
In addition to the LS9 engine, the ZR1 is a technology powerhouse, designed with lightweight and unique components that reinforce its performance with a confidant feel on either a highway or road course.
Options
The standard ZR1 comes with accoutrements based on the Z06, including lightweight seats and lightweight content. The available uplevel interior package includes power-adjustable, heated and leather-trimmed sport seats (embroidered with the ZR1 logo); side air bags; Bose premium audio system; navigation system; Bluetooth connectivity; power telescoping steering column; custom leather-wrapped interior available in four colors and more. Chrome wheels are the only other available option on the ZR1. Detailed pricing noted below.
* $103,300 Base MSRP including destination
* $1,700 Gas guzzler tax
* $10,000 Option package
* $2,000 Chrome wheels
About Chevrolet
Chevrolet is one of America's best-known and best-selling automotive brands. With the largest dealer network in the United States, Chevy is the leader in full-size trucks and the leader in sales of vehicles priced $35,000 and above. Chevrolet delivers more-than-expected value in every vehicle category. Chevy cars and trucks have expressive design, spirited performance and great value with standard features usually found only on more expensive vehicles. More information on Chevrolet can be found at www.chevrolet.com.
# # #
CONTACT(S):
Wendy Clark
Chevrolet Communications
Phone: 313-665-5127
E-mail: wendy.clark@gm.com
Vince Muniga
Product Development Communications
Phone: 586-575-1928
E-mail: vince.muniga@gm.com
WSsick
06-20-2008, 12:44 PM
I've started looking ahead at what my next car might be, once I'm done with the Camaro. The logical progression is a Corvette (I can't/won't afford a ZR1), because it offers great power, great value, and handles well. However, if you told me to pick between a Porsche Cayman S and a Corvette, I'd REALLY have to think about it. Sure, the Cayman is slower through the traps and more expensive to maintain (the latter factors more into the decision than the former), but until I have sat in and driven each, I'd be unable to make that decision. Call me crazy, but I like to drive more than a quarter mile at a time.
-Mike
if you are in that price range, check out the new Audi S5! its pretty sweet looking. or for a little more the Audi RS4, same v8 they moved to the R8! (novelity factor haha)