HELP Please.. SLP timing chain and oil pump install questions
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HELP Please.. SLP timing chain and oil pump install questions
I put my car in the shop to get the SLP (I know probably not the best idea) double roller and the SLP pump installed. It was supposed to be a five hour job, but has turned into a few days. The shop is a very reputable Texas shop and has been doing everything they can, but the fitment issues continue to cause us problems. They sent it to the machine shop to do all that and finally got everything back together. The only problem now is the timing chain cover won't fit. They shimmed two covers down to the point where it was paper thin, and it still wouldn't fit. It seems the only solution is to go a head and buy an LS2 cover because it is a little deeper and would fit...I just don't want to pay the 100+ dollars for a cover if there is something else I can do. I came to find after I bought it that the SLP oil pump is very similar to the Melling. I'm not to knowledgeable about what can be done, so any ideas would be greatly appreciated before I go out and spend the money on an LS2 cover tomorrow.
Thanks a lot,
Brian
Thanks a lot,
Brian
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I guess so? Should I ask them if they installed the oil pump spacers? If they did would that make the stock cover fit with ease? Also, what if they did use the spacers and it the cover still doesn't fit?
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If I'm not mistaken, the SLP pump is manufacured by Melling. They are machined with the proper clearence built in for the double roller chain. No spacers needed. There should not be any fitment issues. Also to my knowledge there is no difference between the LS1 and LS2 timing cover other than the LS2 has the cam sensor.
As always...I could be wrong.
As always...I could be wrong.
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thats interesting/good to know because the shop seems to think buying an ls2 cover will fix it. I'll ask them about it. Also, I've heard of a few people having fitment issues with the melling.
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if you have the slp pump and double roller from slp you dont use the spacers the oil pump alrady has the proper clearance made into it.they are probally using the spacers and it fits to far out
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because it comes with the chain and that is for use with the factory pump. tell them to read the instructions that came with the chain real good and it clearly says if using the slp oil pump spacers are not needed due to spacing already clearanced into the pump.
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I had the same problem with a Rollmaster double.
I had to remove some material from the pump where the pickup tube mounts, and where the pressure spring goes in on the other side. Grind the blackened area shown in the pictures,at a 45* angle, and it should clear. There is plenty of material on the pump in those areas, so you're not going to hurt anything.
I had to remove some material from the pump where the pickup tube mounts, and where the pressure spring goes in on the other side. Grind the blackened area shown in the pictures,at a 45* angle, and it should clear. There is plenty of material on the pump in those areas, so you're not going to hurt anything.
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How would removing that material help...its looks like it still has to clear other areas of the pump before it clears the pickup tube area.
They said the spacers were necessary, and otherwise the pump will hit the timing chain.
They said the spacers were necessary, and otherwise the pump will hit the timing chain.
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If the cover still hits, try what I suggested.
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Well...like i said as of last Monday when I brought it in, it was supposed to be a five hour job. We are now going on at least next monday. They said they have melled everything, tried the ls2 cover, etc...and still it won't fit. Any suggestions? Keeping in mind, this shop has done this install countless times on different vehicles without this much difficulty. I'm tired of not having a vehicle to get to work in. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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how about calling SLP for assistance. or trying another pump and chain to see if there is something wrong with the original, I would have the tech call SLP though, the made it they should know
it definately sounds like there is something wrong with the install or the parts.
it definately sounds like there is something wrong with the install or the parts.
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i agree. Thats what it sounds like to me. I asked them if they called and they said they couldn't get a hold of them. Who knows. Its been a week for a timing chain and oil pump. They won't be working on it again until monday. A little rediculous.
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http://www.slponline.com/inst/55001.pdf
this is the instructions for the slp pump directly from slp
it clearly say if using double roller timing chain spacers are not needed
as i said from the get go. it works ive installed several of these combos.
this is the instructions for the slp pump directly from slp
it clearly say if using double roller timing chain spacers are not needed
as i said from the get go. it works ive installed several of these combos.
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well thats where the installer fucked up, sounds like they owe you a timing cover too.
print off those instructions above and highlight it and take it too them, I would also make them buy me a new pump as well as a timing cover since they put in the spacers and then cut everything to try and make the other parts fit an inproper install.