Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

i am researching for a cam soon and most say of my buiddies say that i should get the tr224

i dont want a cam that peaks at 6400, i want usable power between 2500-6500

my main goal is to have a 400+ in tq and horse power, while keeping my tq slightly higher than my hp

i have everything down to what i am going to buy BUT the cam

what i have now

Hooker Longtubes
Hooker ORY
Corsa Cat-back
LID


here is my list of the for sures


FAST 92 intake
FAST 92 TB
TSP stage 2.5 5.3 heads
ls6 ported oil pump
ls2 double roller timing chain

edit: thinking about adding some 1.85 rockers, what would be the lift of the tr224 on with these??




i want to have a 112


and what does the +2 after the lsa mean







any other cam selections??

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

found this on youtube and its exactly what i want

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dYEl98ZQiw

and he has the same mods that im going to get

yay me.

Pesticide

iTrader: (8)

You should be there. I just made 397 with a 224 581/581 114 with a less efficent head than you have chosen.

socmguy

iTrader: (18)

I don't see you hitting 400rwtq w/o heads. I don't think you'll hit 400rwhp with those mods 'cam only' either.

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

i chose the 5.3 heads from tsp bro... its on my list

BriancWS6

iTrader: (18)

With those supporting mods, and that cam, yes, you should be over the 400rwhp/rwtq mark, BUT, you will have more hp than tq. After you swap out the stock camshaft, your hp will be higher than your torque in a NA setup. Spray that bitch if you want more tq than hp

The +2 means the cam has 2 degrees of advance ground into it.

Other cam selections you ask? Yes, I'd go bigger, but that's me. For a great all around cam though, what you've decided on will be nice. If you are set on the 224/224, I'd get the XER grind vs the TR grind. It has a bit more aggressive lobes and a bit more lift. Hey, every little bit helps, right?

Assassin66

iTrader: (8)

doesn't matter to me if you hit 400 or not as long you hook it up with that LS6 intake!!!

jk man...i think with heads and cam you'll clear the 400 hump

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

thx guys

i was looking at TSP packages and the offer the 224r, what are the benefits of the 224r and the tr224
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=203&catid=15

and good call on the XER 224, im going to research that.

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

edit: thinking about adding some 1.85 rockers, what would be the lift of the tr224 on with these??

FireChicken02

iTrader: (4)

steppin up now! (that cam) the intake with the exhaust will really help you out.. get that thing breathin. I woundn't go to high on lift with out changin valvetrain. I'm sure you have realized you will need to change valvesprings but if i were going with much lift at all I would insist on lifters. (i know from experience ) Looks like you are going to put some heads on probably so the lifter thing will be accounted for when ya do that.. just dont forget your lifter trays... they are like 8 bucks a pair (there are 4 trays total) if you didn't know. not worth losin a motor over vavle/lifter issues.

If you are interested in just breakin 400 i have two sets of heads, some springs (never used), and head bolts you might be interested in. Either way, your mods look like you are thinkin good balanced motor and are headed the right way. Sorry if you knew all of this stuff. I didn't kno all of this when i started? good luck bud.

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

hmm, thx didnt know about lifter trays thx, researching that aswell

Soul TKR

iTrader: (4)

I've got the 224r... the only difference between that and the tr224 is the lift...

224r = .581
tr224 = .563

so the 224r has a little bit more of an aggressive ramp rate...

Chris Gage

iTrader: (18)

I wouldn't bother with those 1.85 rockers. The 224 cam will give you a nice power curve across the whole board, but I would go with something slightly bigger. I am running a 226/232 cam with xfi lobes which nets lift at .609/.604 on a 111+1. I swapped this cam in place of my T-rex that was gonna go into the motor.

If you were to run this same cam with the rest of the mods you have listed, you should see a really nice outcome and a broad power range.

Soul TKR

iTrader: (4)

Just remember, the larger the lift, the stronger springs you need, and the more often you will have to change them...

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

yeah thx wes and the rest of you guys


i am liking the 224r

does any one have a graph of the tr224 power curve??

allbaugh_04

iTrader: (6)

Yea there is no doubt in my mind after reading on here that you will be in the 400 range easy.

On top of that a lot of people are liking the 224. Sure you could go bigger no problem, but people run good times with the 224. Like someone else said, if you want more torque than hp, then you will need to spray it. I think you'll be over 400 without the fast intake and tb.

teke184

iTrader: (5)

can't run higher ratio rockers with most aftermarket cams...the lobes are too agressive.

so forget those.

but if you wanted to calculate lift

[(specified lift)/1.7] x (new rocker ratio)

so if the cam has .563 lift

.563/1.7 = .33118

.33118 x 1.85 = .613" lift

dankl

iTrader: (1)

Instead of going with different ratio rockers, just get a cam with the desired lift. I added 1.8's because the I wanted some more lift after I already had my cam installed. My lift was .566/.568 (XE high rise lobes), so I threw on 1.8's to get me to .599/.601, plus I needed to upgrade my pushrods, so while I was in there it made sense to do the rockers. Since you are still choosing parts, I would just make sure your lift is high enough. Oh, I am a DD BTW.

Raptor_WS6

iTrader: (23)

i get what u r saying. have u gotten it dynoed yet

SSwt00SS

iTrader: (18)

pass on the rockers and get 5.7 heads (59cc)...

only dyno sheet i can provide is mine: Comp 224 .581 @112lsa (single pattern cam, similar to the 224r), Ls6 heads (59cc), FAST 90, LT's/TD's...