Drag Racing Results - Header only T/A traps 114.54mph

Took my boys(MiguelLS1) 02 WS6 to the track today. It was 90 degrees with 53% humidity, so I didn''''t think I was going to get a new best. But the first pass there I got a new best. 12.71@112mph. I was happy but I knew it would go faster. Then I went a 12.65@114.64mph. I made a few other pass but they were slower. Next pass I went a 12.55@114.54mph. 114mph with a total of $800 spent. $500 for the Pacesetter headers with ypipe and $300 for Mickey Thompson drag radials. No tune, no air lid. We removed the front sway bar, and the back seats. The car still was a pig @3560lbs. The best before was a 12.79@109 on dr''''s and 12.84@109 street tires. I also met a few forum members I can''''t remember their names. One had a 5.4 3valve with a turbo. I think he had a few problems with the car but it looked like it will roll when he gets the bugs worked out. My friend also had a new best in his 04 cobra with a ported eaton and bolt on''''s 11.39@123mph on nitto dr''''s. What do you guys think about the mph? And that's with a weak 1.79
60', for what ever reason I can't get his car to 60' better than that.
Here is a break down on the best ticket.

1.796 60''''
5.271 330
8.109 1/8
87.37 mph
10.532 1000
12.557 1/4
114.54 mph

uh factory freak?? haha nice!

damn nice times, im sure you would of been alot faster if it was cooler outside.

Good times, a buddy of mine went 89 mph in the 1/8 with slp headers, and a lid.

what rpm were you shifting? car runs hard from the 1/8 to the 1/4. that looks like an ls6 cam or something.

5500rpm it went slower shifting @6000rpm, no cam here. I am not one to lie about a car mods or lie about e.t.

i hate hearing about "factory freaks" lol

I mph that with spray lol.

Nice meeting you guys today. I was the tall guy in the CETA that your Cobra buddy smoked once! The white WS6 definately runs well, but did have an SLP lid on it:secret2: BTW my CETA with full leather interior, jack and spare tire was 3465 without me! I thought it would be well over 3500.

Nice meeting you guys today. I was the tall guy in the CETA that your Cobra buddy smoked once! The white WS6 definately runs well, but did have an SLP lid on it:secret2: BTW my CETA with full leather interior, jack and spare tire was 3465 without me! I thought it would be well over 3500.

Yea nice meeting you too. The lid is a stock.

Your car didnt come with an SLP lid stock nor did any other WS6 for those years. Stock from SLP was the same ole crappy GM baffled constricting crap. I saw pics taken from the track yesterday and clearly in the photo your car has an SLP lid.....not the stock GM.

This is what came stock

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2626986026_a6acd469ef.jpg?v=0

Wow you should only be up in the 119mph, it needs a tune

Ha....This one's a little tough to take. Just because your car was built on a Wednesday, it is 10mph faster than similar cars in the heat?

not saying your a liar but the slip doesnt make sense. gaining 27 mph on from 1/8 to 1/4 is not regular. Usually in the 23-24 mph range from what I seen. It seems to sixty foot hard and the fall on its face until 1/8 mile marker.

I go 2.0 sixty foot and run the exact same times at 113 in a m6, so kind of wierd

yea thats a little crazy I go high 112's to 113 driving the crap out of the car

That is one hell of a jump in MPH from the 1/8 to 1/4...

yea thats a little crazy I go high 112's to 113 driving the crap out of the car

You have been 113 and you can't believe that I went 114. Come on, some of you just call bs on everything. DKITCHEN was there and saw the pass. The air lid part, when he bought the car the guy told him that the lid was stock. He said it was part of the WS6 package. But if you say it's not then cool, it went 114 with a lid, headers and ypipe. You guys are right it does pull hard after the 1/8 my vette only picks up 24mph. But if any of you wants to see it come to MIR.

Blue Bird has a signifigant amount of bolt-ons compared tou your longtubes and lid. That is why it is hard to believe that you trap faster than he does. You must be one helluva driver.

Come on guys I know it's hard to believe but I never post on here so there's no reason for me to try to impress any of you. The only reason he posted anything is to see what you guy's thought and all you guy's do is call BS but thats cool it's my car and I'm happy with it. I use to be a Import Guy, boy was I wrong!

The air lid part, when he bought the car the guy told him that the lid was stock. He said it was part of the WS6 package

Even if the guy he bought the car from told him it was stock you should know that wasnt true when you looked at it....if you know anything about fbodies. :eyes:

You must be one helluva driver.


Yeah he is thats why I let him drive it:D

Even if the guy he bought the car from told him it was stock you should know that wasnt true when you looked at it....if you know anything about fbodies. :eyes:

I just posted that I was an Import guy, but I heard SLP was a factory option.

We're not trying to hate on you about this, but a few times a year there are claims like this that are a little over the top. Your car sounds like it is running great. The likelyhood of running like that with mods you have listed is highly improbable. That's all we're saying. Hell, we have a guy around here that has an LT1 on street tires with an A4 running 13.1's saying it's a bone stock car. The only way to be absolutely sure of mods is to be the original owner of the car.

We're not trying to hate on you about this, but a few times a year there are claims like this that are a little over the top. Your car sounds like it is running great. The likelyhood of running like that with mods you have listed is highly improbable. That's all we're saying. Hell, we have a guy around here that has an LT1 on street tires with an A4 running 13.1's saying it's a bone stock car. The only way to be absolutely sure of mods is to be the original owner of the car.

It's all good, I am no rookie to this. I get bs called all the time on the mustangforums. Just not here. Plenty of people have seen me run my car know that I don't lie about anything. This is just not my car.

Oh and the person saying I should only trap 104 in the heat. There was a all stock
98z28 a4 that traped 104.69mph

It's all good, I am no rookie to this. I get bs called all the time on the mustangforums. Just not here. Plenty of people have seen me run my car know that I don't lie about anything. This is just not my car.

Didn't mean to start a battle fella's! The car runs great and doesn't sound at all like it's cammed. It's also an 02 which came with things like an LS6 intake and better heads (241). A small percentage even had the LS6 block. I knew it wasn't your car and prob didn't realize that the SLP lid was aftermarket. Anyway, I've got a cutout and 3.73 gears going in next and hope to stay close to you guys! Then comes the cam and stall and some C YA! :D

1.796 60'
5.271 330
8.109 1/8
87.37 mph
10.532 1000
12.557 1/4
114.54 mpha4 or m6? what tires? what raceweight?

i can see this happening with a raceweight of like 3050 haha.

that slip doesn't make any sense at all. a 1.79 60' and 114 trap speed equates to...at worst, something like a 12.0 run. picking up that much mph from the 1/8 to 1/4 is insane. i think you forgot to tell everyone about the m/t et street DRs and 100 shot. my buddy has a cammed car that runs 11.7 @ 114 like a clock on a 1.7 60', granted he has a 4k stall, it wouldn't make a difference of a second in the 1/4. he traps 90 in the 1/8.

I just posted that I was an Import guy, but I heard SLP was a factory option.

I said the other guy that had the car there....if he's been around the LS1's he should of known it wasnt stock.

Here's a pic of your car :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2627478593_6cc0c4f2e9_o.jpg

a4 or m6? what tires? what raceweight?

i can see this happening with a raceweight of like 3050 haha.

that slip doesn't make any sense at all. a 1.79 60' and 114 trap speed equates to...at worst, something like a 12.0 run. picking up that much mph from the 1/8 to 1/4 is insane. i think you forgot to tell everyone about the m/t et street DRs and 100 shot. my buddy has a cammed car that runs 11.7 @ 114 like a clock on a 1.7 60', granted he has a 4k stall, it wouldn't make a difference of a second in the 1/4. he traps 90 in the 1/8.

I didn't forget to say anything read from the beggining we said pacesetter headers, ypipe and MT Drag radials and no spray. Weight was 3560 with driver oh he's been 1.84 60' on street tires.

I said the other guy that had the car there....if he's been around the LS1's he should of known it wasnt stock.

Here's a pic of your car :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2627478593_6cc0c4f2e9_o.jpg

Nice Picture thats the only picture I have of my car. Can I use that for my profile. That sorry lid doesn't even stay closed, look at the clips in the picture. Did you take any other pictures?

Originally Posted by procsls6
1.796 60'
5.271 330
8.109 1/8
87.37 mph
10.532 1000
12.557 1/4
114.54 mph


That is fast. When I had my m6 with 243 heads, cam, headers and cutout, oh yea and ls6 intake.
I ran
89mph in 1/8th
and only 113.8 in 1/4mile

this year with 4l80e etc...
I ran a similar time to yours
87mph in 1/8th
and 110.5 in 1/4

There is no way a header only car will go from 87 to 114.
Id believe it if i saw it.

[QUOTE=nahasapeemapetalon;9658948]Originally Posted by procsls6
1.796 60'
5.271 330
8.109 1/8
87.37 mph
10.532 1000
12.557 1/4
114.54 mph


That is fast. When I had my m6 with 243 heads, cam, headers and cutout, oh yea and ls6 intake.
I ran
89mph in 1/8th
and only 113.8 in 1/4mile

I'm sorry to hear that

Is your car lowered? I like the way it's lookin.

Im friend of both malcom(procsls6) and miguel(miguells1). I know this car, it only has full exhaust, lid and tires everything they are saying is true. The car does not have cam or spray. I cant believe how many people are calling bs on this.

Ps, Congrats again Miguel and Malcom.


Matt

Is your car lowered? I like the way it's lookin.

Yeah lowered with Sportlines. Thanks

That is fast. When I had my m6 with 243 heads, cam, headers and cutout, oh yea and ls6 intake.
I ran
89mph in 1/8th
and only 113.8 in 1/4mile

Very unimpressive results, but he makes a good point that with better heads and cam. It still doesn't pick up the 27mph from 1/8 to 1/4 that you are claiming.

One of the best runs I've seen from a M6 with few mods was a 02 WS6 w/ lid, FTRA, 'dyno' mouth exhaust, and 17' nitto DRs. No headers or tune.

60' 1.8?
1/8 8.05
MPH 88.??
1/4 12.48
MPH 111.??

More MPH than you in the 1/8 but less in the 1/4 with a better time.

MIR seems to be a fast track from the near unbelievable results people have been posting lately. Maybe they need to recalibrate there timing system.

Not doubting you, if slip says it, then it says it. There just may be factors that you don't know about.


Jon

Very unimpressive results, but he makes a good point that with better heads and cam. It still doesn't pick up the 27mph from 1/8 to 1/4 that you are claiming.

One of the best runs I've seen from a M6 with few mods was a 02 WS6 w/ lid, FTRA, 'dyno' mouth exhaust, and 17' nitto DRs. No headers or tune.

60' 1.8?
1/8 8.05
MPH 88.??
1/4 12.48
MPH 111.??

More MPH than you in the 1/8 but less in the 1/4 with a better time.

MIR seems to be a fast track from the near unbelievable results people have been posting lately. Maybe they need to recalibrate there timing system.

Not doubting you, if slip says it, then it says it. There just may be factors that you don't know about.


Jon

Please don't say that a track like MIR needs to be recalibrated. It's not like I went a 119mph. So if I went to Rockingham and went that fast would you than believe it. Rockingham is no different, I have been to about 13different tracks and MIR and Rockingham are the two fastest. MIR and E-town are the two best

i have a slip showing my stock 00 z28 with a stall went 8.0 @ 91 on a 1.7 60'. maybe i should post it - because timing equipment never faults.

Please don't say that a track like MIR needs to be recalibrated. It's not like I went a 119mph. So if I went to Rockingham and went that fast would you than believe it. Rockingham is no different, I have been to about 13different tracks and MIR and Rockingham are the two fastest. MIR and E-town are the two best

If you got that number somewhere else, then I would just say that the car has more done to it than you know or than you are saying.

I'm just giving suggestions as to why you numbers are impossibly high.

You said that the best before was 12.79@109 on drs. What did you add from that run to this run that in worse weather picked up 50 rwhp. I mean, don't you say how fuckin retarded that sounds.

I know that you wouldn't believe me if I was the one telling the story.

Jon

The front swaybar was removed, caused a better 60ft.

Matt

The front swaybar was removed, caused a better 60ft.

Matt

Are you replying to me?

02 = LS6 intake?

On the 12.79 pass it had a full tank of gas, and the car did not cool down. The weather was the same. The front sway bar did help the 60' alittle but it helped the 330' drop alot. We let the car cool and put ice on it. The 12.79 pass was the first day of me driving the car with the headers. I also tried different shift points and found that 5500 was the best. Also found the dropping the clutch was what worked the best, not riding it like I always do. So 50hp was not what caused the increase, seat time and weight did.

The front swaybar was removed, caused a better 60ft.

Matt

Dude your still not getting it, and to me it seems like you are trying way to hard to convince us... Removing the front swaybar does help but your still not getting it. If he pulled a 1.79 60ft he should have run faster than 12.5. My buddy with a cam and full bolt ons would run a 12.6 at 114 with a 2.2 60ft.

Dude your still not getting it, and to me it seems like you are trying way to hard to convince us... Removing the front swaybar does help but your still not getting it. If he pulled a 1.79 60ft he should have run faster than 12.5. My buddy with a cam and full bolt ons would run a 12.6 at 114 with a 2.2 60ft.

Let me give you alittle bit of help here. 1tenth in the 60' SHOULD be 2tenths up top. So if your buddy (who only went a 12.50 in a cam only car)got a 1.7 60' he should go a 11.50's right were alot of cam only car go. Some of you just need to get some seat time and stop calling bs on everthing.

The haters are just to funny, for those that just are trying to believe, I feel yea.

Nice Picture thats the only picture I have of my car. Can I use that for my profile. That sorry lid doesn't even stay closed, look at the clips in the picture. Did you take any other pictures?

If you want some really nice pics let me know because my b/f and I know :). We are both photographers and are actually trying to get a group of fbodies together one Sunday here soon for a photoshoot. That's Dkitchen's pic btw. We live out in Bristow, VA btw.

Check out my smugmug page to see my photography talents :)

www.flaminbird.smugmug.com

nice!.......

On the 12.79 pass it had a full tank of gas, and the car did not cool down. The weather was the same. The front sway bar did help the 60' alittle but it helped the 330' drop alot. We let the car cool and put ice on it. The 12.79 pass was the first day of me driving the car with the headers. I also tried different shift points and found that 5500 was the best. Also found the dropping the clutch was what worked the best, not riding it like I always do. So 50hp was not what caused the increase, seat time and weight did.

Let me give you alittle bit of help here. 1tenth in the 60' SHOULD be 2tenths up top. So if your buddy (who only went a 12.50 in a cam only car)got a 1.7 60' he should go a 11.50's right were alot of cam only car go. Some of you just need to get some seat time and stop calling bs on everthing.

The haters are just to funny, for those that just are trying to believe, I feel yea.

Either you're a complete retard or your just not reading these posts. Nobody gives a shit about your ET. Your ET is fine and some people have done as good or better with less mods. It's the stupid high MPH at the 1/4 that don't add up with your mods or with the 1/8 MPH. That's what everyone is calling BS on. Seat time don't make a fucking bit of difference in the MPH. Spin, bog, whatever as long as you don't miss a gear MPH will be relatively the same.

A full tank of gas is only 120-130 lbs. Sway bar and brackets maybe 10 lbs. So if you went from a completely full tank on the 109mph pass to an empty tank. We're talking 2 MPH at best.

Icing the intake is an effective way to make more power. Again at most 1 MPH gain, though the weather was still shitty.

Together at best you're going 112, which is believable. But you're going 2.5 MPH more. So pretty much what your saying is that on a cool dry day everything the same on the car you could pull ~116.

Just quit arguing about the damn ET. It's not in question.

Jon

Are you replying to me?


Yes I was. I was just answering what he did different from last time he went to the track.

If you want some really nice pics let me know because my b/f and I know :). We are both photographers and are actually trying to get a group of fbodies together one Sunday here soon for a photoshoot. That's Dkitchen's pic btw. We live out in Bristow, VA btw.

Check out my smugmug page to see my photography talents :)

www.flaminbird.smugmug.com
Very nice pic's. Just let me know when and where, I would like to get some pictures taken. THANKS!

Thats not nice to call people names like retard. It's not that seirous. So CALM DOWN like I said before it's my car and I'm happy with it that's all that matters. We only posted because we were happy how fast(MPH) the car went and boy was that a mistake. I have the time slip and no scanner, even then some of you wouldn't believe it, but I could really give a sh*! if anybody believes it or not. I'M HAPPY but I did have fun posting back and forth I just don't think I'll ever post my cars time again. lol

Very nice pic's. Just let me know when and where, I would like to get some pictures taken. THANKS!


Sounds good. I'll send you a PM about it.

A 1.7 does not automatically mean an 11.5, it means a 1.7 :)

A 1.7 short time will result in a variety of track times. That said, a 1.7 in a nearly full weight 4th gen M6 car with some boltons will run mid 12's.

114mph is a little strong for the mods listed but I won't bash the time, but it's true that most cars with those parts would run 112mph.

was this drapstrip going downhill?

im sorry but the only way to see whats going on is for the car to be dynotuned. and see Exactly what numbers its putting down.

sounds like youre gonna have to run it again...

mph is def high, something is off somewhere. not calling bs on you, just saying that youre getting bad info from somewhere.

was this drapstrip going downhill?

im sorry but the only way to see whats going on is for the car to be dynotuned. and see Exactly what numbers its putting down.

your cool

sounds like youre gonna have to run it again...

mph is def high, something is off somewhere. not calling bs on you, just saying that youre getting bad info from somewhere.

I understand what some of you are saying. But I got that mph twice and 113 twice. Any of you live in MD or VA come on out tonight, and see how it is on the street. So all of the record setting Vettes(c5z06, c6z06) that run here are off too, so the record setting Real Street cars are off also. What about the MIROCK record setting Motorcycles, they are off also right. Come on give it a break. So only my passes was off?

I just noticed that you live in Bowie come on out tonight I'll pm you my number, and you can look at the car. For fun

Thats not nice to call people names like retard. It's not that seirous. So CALM DOWN like I said before it's my car and I'm happy with it that's all that matters. We only posted because we were happy how fast(MPH) the car went and boy was that a mistake. I have the time slip and no scanner, even then some of you wouldn't believe it, but I could really give a sh*! if anybody believes it or not. I'M HAPPY but I did have fun posting back and forth I just don't think I'll ever post my cars time again. lol

Well when someone is calling BS on your MPH and all that you do is post about ET, what does that say. Either your not reading the posts or you can't comprehend them.

So you posted because the MPH is unbelievably high and you got what is expected from unbelievable results. Unbelievers.

You don't have to post the slip, I don't think anyone is saying that you're lying about what the slip says. I'm sure it says 114.54. I just don't believe the clocks are right. I would even believe the 1/4 mph if the 1/8 was 89 or better. So maybe the 1/8 MPH is erred on the low side, who knows.

And lastly, I'm sure you won't post your results next time because after the reset their compulink system you'll never see 114 again without more mods.

I would love to see your results next time out. Please continue to post them. I mean if you can't take a little shit talking you shouldn't be racing.

Jon

I understand what some of you are saying. But I got that mph twice and 113 twice. Any of you live in MD or VA come on out tonight, and see how it is on the street. So all of the record setting Vettes(c5z06, c6z06) that run here are off too, so the record setting Real Street cars are off also. What about the MIROCK record setting Motorcycles, they are off also right. Come on give it a break. So only my passes was off?

Were there record setting passes the night that you were there? Do you think that electronics are always right? Just because it's right most of the time, don't mean it's right all of the time. Shit does happen, I have had runs that I know are not right, but it showed up on my timeslips, and I continue to tell those results. I just wouldn't argue against if it were in question.

Jon

I don't think anything was wrong with their equipment. I made 5 runs with the mph between 105 and 106 everytime. (mostly stock CETA) His car definately looked that fast on the top end. I saw at least 4 runs that were all 113 or 114. I really think it may have an LS6 cam. The guy you bought it from didn't even know the lid was aftermarket, so he prob was the second or third owner. My buddy you talked to with the cammed SS was trapping 114 everytime too. I have a couple of pics with our cars parked together if you want them. Definately let Michelle do a photoshoot of your ride, my car was finalist in picture of the month this month from one of her pics.

Cool, yeah if you can send me a copy of the pictures. I called the guy (Jason) I bought the car from and he said he bought the car new in VA, he said he bought the parts off of a wreck TransAm and thought the are SLP factory options. The parts are SLP lid and SLP cat-back exhaust, I changed exhaust to Magnaflow and added headers with Y-pipe. I gave Michelle a PM about a photoshoot, her pictures are crazy nice. THANKS Dude! You going to the track sunday?

Cool, yeah if you can send me a copy of the pictures. I called the guy (Jason) I bought the car from and he said he bought the car new in VA, he said he bought the parts off of a wreck TransAm and thought the are SLP factory options. The parts are SLP lid and SLP cat-back exhaust, I changed exhaust to Magnaflow and added headers with Y-pipe. I gave Michelle a PM about a photoshoot, her pictures are crazy nice. THANKS Dude! You going to the track sunday?

It's all good. The car looks and runs great regardless. I have family in town for the holidays and I'm getting my 3.73's and electric cutout put in next week so I'll wait to run it again after that. I want to make a few passes after each phase of mods to see what difference they make. I've had the car about 2 months and already have about 20 time slips between Sumerduck and MIR!!

hate to do it but the 90* weather put me over the top...

only headers and maybe a lid...

60ft is off for the mph an ET...

weight is heavy...

1/8 to 1/4 mph is to much...i only gain 24mph and i am cam only...

nice times bud but i think the timing equipment might be off...i know our track was off a couple years ago in one lane...the right lane was 4mph higher than the left one... :)

Something is off..If you are pulling 114mph, You have at least 400 hp to the wheels..right or wrong?

Here is one of my slips..very similar to yours..I am a stalled auto though, so it might be comparing apples to oranges..we have similar 60 fts & 1/8 mph(I am 1 mph faster)

60' 1.800
330 5.088
1/8 7.850
mph 88.68
1000 10.239
1/4 12.261
mph 111.39

You pick up 3mph on me..??? Was there a major tail wind or something? But I think that only will give you ET not MPH

what dose the car weight, I was at 3350 went hi 113s just the cats removed.

I'll throw my two cent's in as well.
With my listed mod's I trapped at 115 mph WITH a 75 shot.
I am not saying the op is intentionally trying to BS this forum, but his recorded speed can't be accurate.
No way.

Something is off..If you are pulling 114mph, You have at least 400 hp to the wheels..right or wrong?
I'd say a full weight M6 F-body would need about 390rwhp to go 114mph in average air.

what dose the car weight, I was at 3350 went hi 113s just the cats removed.

he said around 3500 something but it was 90 out too...da had to be in the thousands...just think with 0 da he could run 117mph+ with just headers and stock weight...:bang:

what dose the car weight, I was at 3350 went hi 113s just the cats removed.



And no one called bs on you? I believe it, the car was 3560 with me in it and I am 200lbs.

I'll throw my two cent's in as well.
With my listed mod's I trapped at 115 mph WITH a 75 shot.
I am not saying the op is intentionally trying to BS this forum, but his recorded speed can't be accurate.
No way.

If plenty of people have traped 112 with bolt ons, and they believe that, why would I have to spray to trap 114. Your numbers are off, not mine.

I thought this thread was going to die, that's why I have not posted on the last page. But if you guys are going to keep it going than fuck it. Alot of you keep talking about what you have been with your car. I don't give a shit. I am a know Corvette racer who has proven my self. If you don't want to lesson than don't, but stop calling bs. I ran in both lanes, and ran the mph more than once, stop saying the track was not right. I have told you guys if any of you live in my area, then come see the car be a judge for yourself. If you have an a4 and went 112, than what do you thing a well driven 6speed will go. And don't say a cam because some one has said they heard the car and did not hear a cam. My vette did not pick up the mph that this car did from the 1/8 to the 1/4 put it happen. So when we do it again what will the problem be?

It's all good! HATERS!!

Don't worry about it man, this is just the internet. Truthfully, I didn't think your mph was all that impressive for your mods. I knew a guy with an A4 that ran consistent 119s with bolt ons and tha stock intake manifold. My car went 12.6@112.5 with only a lid, home ported MAF, hollowed cats, and a cat-back. Anyway, the mph is not crazy IMO. As long as you are happy don't worry about trying to convince everyone else. Good luck,

Larry

Don't worry about it man, this is just the internet. Truthfully, I didn't think your mph was all that impressive for your mods. I knew a guy with an A4 that ran consistent 119s with bolt ons and tha stock intake manifold. My car went 12.6@112.5 with only a lid, home ported MAF, hollowed cats, and a cat-back. Anyway, the mph is not crazy IMO. As long as you are happy don't worry about trying to convince everyone else. Good luck,

Larry

THANK YOU! I appreciate that, I'm going back to the track tonight but I'm going to driving it myself this time.

If plenty of people have traped 112 with bolt ons, and they believe that, why would I have to spray to trap 114. Your numbers are off, not mine.

I thought this thread was going to die, that's why I have not posted on the last page. But if you guys are going to keep it going than fuck it. Alot of you keep talking about what you have been with your car. I don't give a shit. I am a know Corvette racer who has proven my self. If you don't want to lesson than don't, but stop calling bs. I ran in both lanes, and ran the mph more than once, stop saying the track was not right. I have told you guys if any of you live in my area, then come see the car be a judge for yourself. If you have an a4 and went 112, than what do you thing a well driven 6speed will go. And don't say a cam because some one has said they heard the car and did not hear a cam. My vette did not pick up the mph that this car did from the 1/8 to the 1/4 put it happen. So when we do it again what will the problem be?

112MPH with bolt ons is the high end and 2.5 more MPH is a lot. Especially when he doesn't have everything. ram air kit, ported TB, and a pulley in cold dry air should go 116-117. Does that seem about right to you? And I didn't read everyones post in this thread but if someone said they went 112 in an A4 with similar mods as you, they are either lightweight, lying or maybe they race at MIR as well.

Be that as it may, I think the really unbelievable part is the gain from the 1/8. Your C5Z with its less weight, better aerodynamics, and more power doesn't gain as much. It should far exceed the top end pull of a bolt-on F-body. Yet it doesn't, but that's not odd to you. Mr. known corvette racer, ha.

We don't want to listen? (Atleast I think thats what you meant.) You're the one who doesn't want to listen. 87mph to 114mph in a ful exhaust/lid-only M6 WS6 is not possible. What is causing that is what's in question. There's either more to the car or something with the track.

You think that because someone couldn't hear a cam that it's not there. There are cams design with stock idle being the main goal. It could even be an LS6 cam, which would sound like a stock C5Z yet have a solid 20 rwhp more.

If you really knew anything about these cars you would question it yourself. Seriously. My car has went 88mph in the 1/8, so I can only assume it would go ~112 in the 1/4, but if I took it to Rockingham and it went 114+ I would brag to everyone about the slip and say my car just works better than others, but I would consider the fact that something wasn't legit.

If you can run that number again, then I would believe that it's a fast car, but I would still question the unknown.

Jon

what dose the car weight, I was at 3350 went hi 113s just the cats removed.

And no one called bs on you? I believe it, the car was 3560 with me in it and I am 200lbs.


Hmm, maybe that was a typo?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=779804&highlight=

tell me what the DENSITY ALTITUDE was for the day you raced...i mean i might be able to believe it if it were 45* outside and negative DA...

just too many things dont add up...

Dude, You started shit by your Freaking Headline "Header only T/A traps 114.54mph " You knew you were going to get shit about it..I don't care how good your mph is..I will take my 11.91@111.94 anyday..

just too many things dont add up...this is what i'm saying. the car pulls 1/8 to 1/4 numbers like an 9 sec turbo car.

Hmm, maybe that was a typo?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=779804&highlight=

no? That was before I did a 25% UD powerbond, and 3:73 S60 and borrowed a set of ETstreets for the lower ET. http://www.putfile.com/tag/studderin.html
But a good driver, free mod m6 car can trap 108-110. I don't see a car with a lid, and full exhust going slower then 112. Not stupid stuff, the car sounds like its setup good. Pacesetters, ORY, magnaflow catback, no front sway, rear seat, spare, MT DRs.

I just read page 2-3-4 I dono about the 27 backhalf, that is a lot. I see what you mean chris, 22...... 24 is a great running, stock cam m6. And on a 1.7 and the weather. I see what your saying. Sure you didn't mean to type 89.27

Whats a slip of the other guys on here that day? Or the other runs? Might just be one lane shows 1/8 slower trap, 1/4 a little high?


Header only T/A traps 114.54mph = :cool:
27 backhalf on the 1st post info=:eyes:

My ol' lady's 01 SS has headers, lid, tune and has went 12.56 @ 113

Oh yea, it's an AUTO!

It was in about 35 degree weather 2 years ago. It also made 353 rwhp, 364 rwtq I posted this a long time ago in the Dyno section and had alot of non believers till some of the locals that witnessed it posted up.

My ol' lady's 01 SS has headers, lid, tune and has went 12.56 @ 113

Oh yea, it's an AUTO!

It was in about 35 degree weather 2 years ago. It also made 353 rwhp, 364 rwtq I posted this a long time ago in the Dyno section and had alot of non believers till some of the locals that witnessed it posted up.

Ok, that's fast. For whatever reason your making as much power to the wheels as the OP should be making, and it was decent weather.

An auto making the same power to the wheels as an M6 will always be faster. He left harder so he 60'ed better and got marginally better ETs but you had more MPH in the 1/8 and less in the 1/4.

Compare the slips you gain on him the whole way nearly tying at the finish line but some how he has .95 MPH more than you. How could you have ran that down?

Not only that but his previous best was 12.79 @ 109 and with only the removal of his sway bar picked up 2 tenths and 5 mph. The reduction in ET should have caused less MPH if anything.

Jon

Ok, that's fast. For whatever reason your making as much power to the wheels as the OP should be making, and it was decent weather.

An auto making the same power to the wheels as an M6 will always be faster. He left harder so he 60'ed better and got marginally better ETs but you had more MPH in the 1/8 and less in the 1/4.

Compare the slips you gain on him the whole way nearly tying at the finish line but some how he has .95 MPH more than you. How could you have ran that down?

Not only that but his previous best was 12.79 @ 109 and with only the removal of his sway bar picked up 2 tenths and 5 mph. The reduction in ET should have caused less MPH if anything.

Jon

Do you feel as if this is your duty to tell everone why this can't happen? Did I say the only thing different was removal of the sway bar? NO

Well someone posted that. You didn't say anything was different.

As long as someone keeps arguing I gonna be here, because I have no life and I'm bored.

I ran there the same day. 4 runs, 3 in the right lane, 1 in the left. I think he was always running in the right lane (tower side). All my runs were nearly identical. ET and MPH didn't vary between the two lanes. The air was terrible as it was hot and humid. I ran between 13.08 and 13.19 all between 105-106 mph. Better air would have gotten me a 12.9X and maybe another 1-2 mph. I didn't notice a cam by the idle, but like someone posted, you wouldn't hear an LS6 cam anyway. I video taped one run, but he spun bad off the line and ran a low 13 at 113. I can post it, but I don't see how it would help prove or disprove anything.

Well I took my car to the track yesterday(me driving), didn't do as good as procsls6. I out weigh him by about 50to60lbs and I had a 1/2 a tank of gas and it was very humid. My first pass the car was hot I ran a 12.75@112.49 with a 1.887 60'. I drove 60miles went straight to tech and made the fisrt pass never shut the car off. Not bad

Dude, You started shit by your Freaking Headline "Header only T/A traps 114.54mph " You knew you were going to get shit about it..I don't care how good your mph is..I will take my 11.91@111.94 anyday..



exactly and then you find out it also has SLP intake,y-pipe,catback,m/t's,i think some weight reduction and who knows what else

I'd say a full weight M6 F-body would need about 390rwhp to go 114mph in average air.


or 385rwhp cause thats what i dyno'd and i hit 114mph

Hey I dynoed 340rwhp, before TB porting, stock exhaust manifolds, cutout opened, and ran a best of 12.42 @ 113, w/ a 1.89 60', but 1/8 mile I was at 89mph.

I just went to the track last Saturday and ran a 12.79 at 112.9 with a 2.0 60ft with bolt ons only in 85 degree weather so I believe that car ran a 12.55 at 114.

and this was on Nitto dr's

I just went to the track last Saturday and ran a 12.79 at 112.9 with a 2.0 60ft with bolt ons only in 85 degree weather so I believe that car ran a 12.55 at 114.

he still has 1.5mph or 15rwhp on you and it was 90* weather...just a little to much man plus the 1/8 to 1/4 dont add up...my guess is that if he is telling the truth it has a small ls6 cam that he doesnt know about...other wise with full bolt ons and cool - da air he will be in the 120mph range at close to full weight

I was there too, Some of you must understand that MIR (Maryland International Raceway) is one of the Best tracks in the area, it has the best air around and the track prep is by far the best. at less that 100 ft asl and always has a nice river breaze that keeps humidity down.
I also ran my Best there (12.41 @ 109.35) 1.845 60ft on 275/40 17 BFG DR's
Stock Tranny and Motor just Bolt-ons.

The OP Car was running like clock work it was awesome to witness..
I do not know him and never met him so no bias here.

I was there too, Some of you must understand that MIR (Maryland International Raceway) is one of the Best tracks in the area, it has the best air around and the track prep is by far the best. at less that 100 ft asl and always has a nice river breaze that keeps humidity down.
I also ran my Best there (12.41 @ 109.35) 1.845 60ft on 275/40 17 BFG DR's
Stock Tranny and Motor just Bolt-ons.

The OP Car was running like clock work it was awesome to witness..
I do not know him and never met him so no bias here.



Thanks, I wish I would have meet you, did you have a mustangforum.com sticker on your car? If so I think I saw you. I

Thanks, I wish I would have meet you, did you have a mustangforum.com sticker on your car? If so I think I saw you. I

No Stickers on my car, I was with the Black mustang with red stripes that looked like a V6 but had a 5.4L 3V F150 Engine with a Turbo, he was running 11.6 still trying to dial the car in, new engine and 4R70 Race tranny with trans brake. 8 lbs boost and 480hp 550tq
http://www.rygen.net/stang/

Were there record setting passes the night that you were there? Do you think that electronics are always right? Just because it's right most of the time, don't mean it's right all of the time. Shit does happen, I have had runs that I know are not right, but it showed up on my timeslips, and I continue to tell those results. I just wouldn't argue against if it were in question.

Jon

You aint kiddin there. I went to a local track back in May with the GTP. It was in the low 80s, ran mostly 13.08-13.1s & worst run was a 13.3. My traps were all 106-107mph with 1.9-2.1 60s. I went back to the same track 3 weeks after, similar weather, might have been 5 degrees warmer. That time, my best run was a 13.19, my worst was a 13.38, trapping 104-105 with 1.9-2.15 60s. I thought how is that possible for my traps to be that much different with very similar ets & weather? BTW, a stock 2007 Impala SS there ran a 1.5 60 with a 14.6 1/4 mile time no DRs. I seen his timeslip, but no way he ran a 1.5 with that car.

am i understanding that 114mph is to high of a speed when running a 12.5 to 12.6?

The reason I ask is because i ran a 86mph in the 1/8 and 13.16 @ 110.13 in the 1/4
thats with a 60ft of 2.02

Stock gears, stock automatic tranny, stock everything motor, stock exhaust manifold, flowmaster exaust with y-pipe no cats...yes stock air lid....

am i understanding that 114mph is to high of a speed when running a 12.5 to 12.6?

The reason I ask is because i ran a 86mph in the 1/8 and 13.16 @ 110.13 in the 1/4
thats with a 60ft of 2.02

Stock gears, stock automatic tranny, stock everything motor, stock exhaust manifold, flowmaster exaust with y-pipe no cats...yes stock air lid....

no 114mph is right, they think the computer was wrong or I had more work done to the car. Their was 2people there that saw my car who said it did not have a cam. And since this post(which is very old now) I have gone 113mph with me driving the car.

no 114mph is right, they think the computer was wrong or I had more work done to the car. Their was 2people there that saw my car who said it did not have a cam. And since this post(which is very old now) I have gone 113mph with me driving the car.

Ill take your word on that...The way I look at it you have excelent top end speed....I know mine does.... I think its great being able to chase down then pass up the person your racing at the strip...

Me personally I dont see how my car hits 110 and only ran a 13.1... or is that normal?

I don't know if that is normal but my friend with a 02 ss he has been 12.70@110, He had something like a 1.9 60' maybe you just need some more seat time I know I do.

Let this DIE!

Well I do know my car doesnt hook for the life of it... Has a tremendous amount of wheel hop... I need a new torque arm (the stock one is not that healthy looking....Im sure once I get the thing to plant I will easily break 12's

Well I do know my car doesnt hook for the life of it... Has a tremendous amount of wheel hop... I need a new torque arm (the stock one is not that healthy looking....Im sure once I get the thing to plant I will easily break 12's

You're wheel hopping because you're lowered. Put your car back to stock ride height and not only only will it not wheel hop but it will look better too!

Jon

You're wheel hopping because you're lowered. Put your car back to stock ride height and not only only will it not wheel hop but it will look better too!

Jon

No sir, the car use to plant just fine when lowered, I lowered it 2 months after I had it and its been fine for the past 2 years wheel hop just recently started and its related to worn on shocks in the rear and bushing in torque arm are worn and cracking...what can I say they are old.
Me personally I like it lowered.. Looks good in my opinion. First I have heard that doesnt care for it... :)

on top of that tires have alot to do with it... every since i put these type of tires on hop got worse..

Yeah my car is lowered and it hooks just fine, and never had wheel hop. Malcolm's vet is lowered and hooks just fine. By the way it looks better lowered.

This thread is still going...should it have been closed by now...

This thread is still going...should it have been closed by now...

my car trapped 114.01....i did however have LTs, Lid, Corsa, Ram HD, Ported TB, ASP Pulley but on the stock tune. spare tire and back seat removed.

How am I getting these emails about replies that aren't even posted?