v6 to ls1?
07-08-2008, 11:23 AM
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v6 to ls1? i have a 2000 3.8L v6 camaro and i want to put an ls1 engine into it and im wondering about the differences of the v6 model camaro and the v8 etc how many things must be replaced and if i were to get a ls1 engine w/ tranny from another camaro like an ss would it be easier or would i have to get diff tranny 
07-08-2008, 12:43 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier & cheaper in the long run to simply sell it & buy a real LS1 powered car?!?
Is the car currently an M5 car? If so, then yes, you'd probably better change it.
(V6=Manual 5-speed, V8=Manual 6-speed)
If it's an A4, with the 4L60E, then maybe not.
But I don't know if the V6 cars got the same 4L60E automatic transmission.
We need more information.
Is the car currently an M5 car? If so, then yes, you'd probably better change it.
(V6=Manual 5-speed, V8=Manual 6-speed)
If it's an A4, with the 4L60E, then maybe not.
But I don't know if the V6 cars got the same 4L60E automatic transmission.
We need more information.
07-08-2008, 09:14 PM
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Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
Of course not everyone can get deals like I do, but..
I'll have $5k total into a hardtop H/C/I LS1, w/ built trans, full bolt ons,suspension,and other odds and end.
Not bad I'd say....Shooting for mid 11's...I don't think i could buy one that cheap.
Of course not everyone can get deals like I do, but..
I'll have $5k total into a hardtop H/C/I LS1, w/ built trans, full bolt ons,suspension,and other odds and end.
Not bad I'd say....Shooting for mid 11's...I don't think i could buy one that cheap.
07-09-2008, 02:21 AM
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try a search, theres a lot of threads about it. in a nutshell, youll need everything from gas tank to suspension (front), to engine/trans, conputer, electrical...the list goes on. its not a simple swap. this is why everyone says to just buy the car already.
07-09-2008, 02:09 PM
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my car is a automatic but ive seen some deals on used ls1s out of other camaros for just over 2k with a tranny and i love the car its the first one ive bought plus the vin says its a v6 for insurance and being 18 and a male thats ALOT cheaper but yeah
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07-09-2008, 02:59 PM
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you will spend more money in the conversion than you would in the insurance... insurance does take a fun chunck but parts+shop time+future probs=$$$$$$$$$$$
buy a ls1 car and have it done right the first time around
buy a ls1 car and have it done right the first time around
07-09-2008, 03:57 PM
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i keep hearing how hard it is to do this switch and how easy it is at the same time... im not asking people to tell me its not worth my time or money i just want to know what all will need replaced changed modified etc
07-09-2008, 04:23 PM
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Quick rundown! i will be swapping my v6 for a forged 347 on july 22nd(atleast attempting bahaha) as far as what you need ATLEAST; Motor, tranny, front suspension, ecu/harness, gauge cluster, ls1 radiator, ls1 driveshaft, gas tank can stay the same, but i would upgrade fuel pump. Rearend(depends what you have now, but can possible keep the rear. Honestly their is alot of **** nickel and dimeing me right now. BUt then again i have over 10k into a forged motor/built tranny car conversion!
07-09-2008, 04:24 PM
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I completely understand your problem with sentimental value. I too have that problem with my V6.
It would be more worthwhile if you put another engine in it besides the LS1. I'd rather see you swap a V6 for another LS engine than a perfectly good LS1 F-body for a LS2,3,6,7,9,A.
I was contimplating doing this to my V6 for a long time. But I think I'm going to wait until GM comes out with the fifth gen LS engines in a crate package.
Just get a doner car, look at both of them and note the differences. Take lots of pictures. Ask lots of questions. Have lots of patience. And like others have said, it's not the cheapest route. And you most likely will never get anywhere close to what you put into it if you decide to sell it later on down the road.
I know that the LS2 through LS7 will work with the Camaro's LS1 computer. You will need to use a few components from the LS1 though. There is a thread on here that talks about that. I think it's called L98 swap... not sure.
Good luck with your car!
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Make sure you put some quiet exhaust on your car so it will be a great sleeper!
It would be more worthwhile if you put another engine in it besides the LS1. I'd rather see you swap a V6 for another LS engine than a perfectly good LS1 F-body for a LS2,3,6,7,9,A.
I was contimplating doing this to my V6 for a long time. But I think I'm going to wait until GM comes out with the fifth gen LS engines in a crate package.
Just get a doner car, look at both of them and note the differences. Take lots of pictures. Ask lots of questions. Have lots of patience. And like others have said, it's not the cheapest route. And you most likely will never get anywhere close to what you put into it if you decide to sell it later on down the road.
I know that the LS2 through LS7 will work with the Camaro's LS1 computer. You will need to use a few components from the LS1 though. There is a thread on here that talks about that. I think it's called L98 swap... not sure.
Good luck with your car!
EDIT:
Make sure you put some quiet exhaust on your car so it will be a great sleeper!
07-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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im not realy worried about my car being stolen or anything i live in a small town and all but idk maybe there is a different route to higher performance and leaving it a v6?
07-11-2008, 08:41 PM
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if you want to gasin a hige performance exploration for the v6 check out fullthrottlev6.com, there is some fast **** over there, depends on your goals, i got my car in the mid 13's trapping 105 mph, but the ls1 is where its at!
07-12-2008, 10:24 AM
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many v6 are in the 11's, daily drivers.
2 v6's that i know of are in the 10's (1 daily driver).
and then u have Tim Kings TT v6...8's. (i'd DD this ride, just have to removed the wheelie bar and parachute..LOL)
2 v6's that i know of are in the 10's (1 daily driver).
and then u have Tim Kings TT v6...8's. (i'd DD this ride, just have to removed the wheelie bar and parachute..LOL)
07-12-2008, 01:59 PM
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dan has/had one helluva DD 11 second ride too! muchless the v6 nitrous car that can take a bigger shot than most LS1's!
07-12-2008, 02:11 PM
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11.40 was the best pull that night, got kicked(kinda) but the run prior was whats posted on ftv6 recently.
i dont bother posting unless i have a back up run for confirmation...anything within .15 i considered backed up.only reason i posted the 11.7 run on that site is because i felt it was very well backed..and they redid the timeslips.
yeah, you read that correctly. mid 11's over a year ago.
many knew of it, but kept it under wraps per my request since i felt it wasnt backed up.
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07-12-2008, 10:04 PM
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dan i knew that for a GOOD while now, i just kept hush hush about it! and btw im REALLY pissed about the whole situation at ftv6 and i DID speak my mind to a number of ppl about it! i
