Northwest Members - Sinc everyone is doing clutches....




NW94Z
07-15-2008, 11:59 AM
Going to R&R the clutch in my daughters 91 RS Saturday and was wondering if anyone knows a place close to Mill Creek/ Clearview/ Snohomish that can turn the flywheel? I'm trying to eliminate as much downtime as possible. The goal is to have the car finished by Saturday late afternoon.


TwoFast4Lv
07-15-2008, 12:01 PM
Call me when you need it ;)

sidewayz28
07-15-2008, 12:25 PM
lol i wish you luck... my clutch swap has been a royal PITA... doesnt help that im a rookie


NW94Z
07-15-2008, 01:40 PM
Call me when you need it ;)

If all goes well I expect to have the flywheel off by noonish. Then it's just a matter of putting it all back together. Do you think I should consider anything with the hydraulics? At least bleeding them.

lol i wish you luck... my clutch swap has been a royal PITA... doesnt help that im a rookie


Positive thoughts, positive thoughts. I think the hardest part will be getting to the bolts on top of the bellhousing or tranny (may separate it from the bellhousing to make access easier) and then actually getting the tranny down and out of the way by myself with a jack. Everything else should be accessible and pretty straight forward.

This will be my first clutch install what could go wrong....:eyes:

sidewayz28
07-15-2008, 05:10 PM
This will be my first clutch install what could go wrong....:eyes:

LOL!!! :jest: DONT say that! haha im getting my ass kicked by my clutch..
taking the tranny out of the bellhousing seems like it was the easiest way.. and youll need like 2 feet of extension :D

sidewayz28
07-15-2008, 05:11 PM
find my clutch thread in the manual section if you want pics and some good info.

NW94Z
07-16-2008, 12:50 PM
find my clutch thread in the manual section if you want pics and some good info.

Just finished reading your write up on your clutch install. Holy GEEEZ man talk about a saga. Definitely does not give me a warm fuzzy when contemplating doing the job myself. Getting the tranny off and on sounds like a two person job. I'll be dealing with a T-5 which I believe is considerably lighter but now you have me worried. I've gotta have this done in one day start to finish. Maybe I'll just take it to a shop and have them do the work.

Positive thoughts, positive thoughts.

sidewayz28
07-16-2008, 03:43 PM
lol, i just ran into constant problems... and a lot of it comes from my inexperience i believe... theres no WAY i could physically do the trans install by my self... right now we've got a neat set up... we got a jack holding the rear of the tranny, and a smaller CTS spare tire jack ontop of a dolley holding the front of of the tranny... we just adjusted both heights until we were able to slide the input shaft in... now we have the slave sitting against the PP, and have 1 more inch until the tranny is sitting flush with the bellhousing... SO CLOSE!!!!!!

Tylerb59
07-16-2008, 04:08 PM
I could write a book with all the fun I had my first clutch swap saga similar to Sideway's on my first Mustang. It involved a dremel.

I know what needs to be done now and know paying a professional like Ellis is worth the money for the time and frustration saved. Working on cars can be fun, however time spent on the road is always better.

Best of luck. It's always a great feeling once you button the car up yourself.

NW94Z
07-16-2008, 08:49 PM
lol, i just ran into constant problems... and a lot of it comes from my inexperience i believe... theres no WAY i could physically do the trans install by my self... right now we've got a neat set up... we got a jack holding the rear of the tranny, and a smaller CTS spare tire jack ontop of a dolley holding the front of of the tranny... we just adjusted both heights until we were able to slide the input shaft in... now we have the slave sitting against the PP, and have 1 more inch until the tranny is sitting flush with the bellhousing... SO CLOSE!!!!!!

Sounds like your past the worst. Sometimes little things like trying to line up dowels or holes to run bolts through while not complicated can be a real pain in the ass. Once it's done though it always feels good.

I could write a book with all the fun I had my first clutch swap saga similar to Sideway's on my first Mustang. It involved a dremel.

I know what needs to be done now and know paying a professional like Ellis is worth the money for the time and frustration saved. Working on cars can be fun, however time spent on the road is always better.

Best of luck. It's always a great feeling once you button the car up yourself.

Damn no more clutch install horror stories or suggestions of such.

I agree on the great feeling once completing a job. In the last 6 weeks since picking this car up for my daughter I have replaced all the original suspension (had my own saga getting the front lower a arms back on with the springs), new steering (center link, tie rod ends, idler arm, ball joints etc...), new brakes including front rotors with a bearing rebuild, window motor and a cooling/ fan issue that took me 4 weeks to trouble shoot and resolve. Gotta say it's been a lot of fun and rewarding.

Now i just have to get past this clutch. new one came in today so i should be set for Saturday. Ellis what's your going rate for Saturdays. :emb:

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 12:56 AM
LOL sorry to say....but i mis-aligned my clutch, and im back at square 1!!!!! :jest:
Somone tell me why i waste my time with this crap!?!??!?!?

NW94Z
07-17-2008, 09:32 AM
LOL sorry to say....but i mis-aligned my clutch, and im back at square 1!!!!! :jest:
Somone tell me why i waste my time with this crap!?!??!?!?

Really sorry to see that, but I wouldn't say your back at square one. Square one would be pulling the tranny off. Your more in the middle. I'll check your other post to see what went wrong.

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 01:44 PM
lol feels like square 1 man...
but i guess i cant feel too negative, i've definitly made my share of mistakes with this deal so i've learned a ton...

i have a question: when i was tightening my PP down, i think i used too much thread lock b/c it started dripping down the flywheel and what not... when i took off everything again, it looks like some thread locker got on the clutch disc and has dried on to both side... not a ton, but its clearly visible and i tried rubbing it off but its dry.... am i in trouble?

NW94Z
07-17-2008, 02:44 PM
lol feels like square 1 man...
but i guess i cant feel too negative, i've definitly made my share of mistakes with this deal so i've learned a ton...

i have a question: when i was tightening my PP down, i think i used too much thread lock b/c it started dripping down the flywheel and what not... when i took off everything again, it looks like some thread locker got on the clutch disc and has dried on to both side... not a ton, but its clearly visible and i tried rubbing it off but its dry.... am i in trouble?

I saw you ask this in your other thread. I honestly don't know the answer. When I read stuff about not having any grease or lubricant of any kind on the clutch I stop and wonder sometimes about how much is to much. I can see having lots of oil or grease being a bad thing but a smudge or two here or there....? I would think it would burn off after a few uses of the clutch. So last night I was reading the instructions that came with the new clutch and it went into some detail about adjusting the pivot on the fork and measuring clearances with a feeler gauge. Did you do any of this? Everything I have read online suggests people just remove the old clutch bolt up the new one and call it a day.

Maybe Ellis will chime in with some answers?

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 03:24 PM
nah, never read anything about the feeler gauge.. you would think they'd come from the manufacturer ready to bolt on..
Man i REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hope i didnt mess up the clutch disc with that thread lock

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 03:26 PM
thats cool u live in mill creek, im pretty close... i live right off of 145th... i like to call it "Sea-shore"

NW94Z
07-17-2008, 06:58 PM
thats cool u live in mill creek, im pretty close... i live right off of 145th... i like to call it "Sea-shore"

Where exactly is 145th? I'm off of Snohomish-Cascade. About 12 minutes from the New Mill Creek town center. I'd come over and give you a hand if I didn't have so much to get done between now and Monday night. Came home early today to go to an orientation dinner for my daughters College, taking my son to the airport tomorrow night, clutch job Saturday, Car show Sunday, work Monday and I fly out to Texas Monday night for the rest of the week. If your still working on your clutch when I get back I'll stop by.

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 08:01 PM
its right before northgate mall..
HOPEFULLY ill have the clutch done before that :jest:
maybe if you need a hand your self i can stop by... id love to break in the new clutch :)

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 08:05 PM
oh yeah, the guy at spec said to just use some sand paper over the stained areas..
So got the clutch back in, ITS DEFINITLY ALIGNED!!! kept the alingment tool in through out the whole torquing down process (i obviously screwed that up the first time :( )
got the clutch housing on, and now im off the get some FOOD!!! and then me and my buddy are going to try and get the tranny in

Tylerb59
07-17-2008, 08:47 PM
try and get the tranny in

Wah wah.

At this point I'm not sure if I'd be saying "try".

=P

sidewayz28
07-17-2008, 08:56 PM
lol, my bad.. im GOING to get the tranny back in.. if not tonight............. tommorow..... etc. etc.

NW94Z
07-18-2008, 01:30 AM
its right before northgate mall..
HOPEFULLY ill have the clutch done before that :jest:
maybe if you need a hand your self i can stop by... id love to break in the new clutch :)

Good luck!

sidewayz28
07-20-2008, 01:16 AM
lol....you wont believe it. but the t56 is now getting replaced with a th400

NW94Z
07-20-2008, 01:27 AM
lol....you wont believe it. but the t56 is now getting replaced with a th400

Your talking about your car? Your scrapping the whole clutch thing and going Auto?

sidewayz28
07-20-2008, 02:24 AM
lol yeah..

TwoFast4Lv
07-20-2008, 10:35 AM
Hey Guys sorry I mssed some of this.

I was out in the shop doing a bunch of stuff. I started at 7am and worked until 3pm then took a break and had to go recover a car up at Northern Lights. We did not get back until after 10pm with a Pizza from Jeno's here in Monroe :D

I did have my Phone on waiting for your call's :D

The Lock tite on the Clutch will need to be cleaned off with brake cleaner. Do not want to leave it on there even to go back in Nates car.

As far as the fealer gauge deal 99.99% of the time all is well. We Do check the Twin Disk setups that way though but I have yet to find one out of spec.

The Biggest thing, and I can not stess this enough, is to NOT let the transmission hang from the disk half way inserted. This bends the center of the disk and will cause a bunch of problems. Cutch not releaseing , clutch sticking on shifts, clutch dragging making it hard to shift and or get in gear along with many other problems. With the wieght of a t56 it is real easy to do this and ruin a clutch before you even start. T5s are more forgiving as they are much lighter...but many time so are there clutches ;)

Good luck guys. call me if you need any thing

sidewayz28
07-20-2008, 11:57 AM
thanks for the info ellis, i'll let Nate know!

NW94Z
07-20-2008, 08:09 PM
Hey Guys sorry I mssed some of this.

I was out in the shop doing a bunch of stuff. I started at 7am and worked until 3pm then took a break and had to go recover a car up at Northern Lights. We did not get back until after 10pm with a Pizza from Jeno's here in Monroe :D

I did have my Phone on waiting for your call's :D

The Lock tite on the Clutch will need to be cleaned off with brake cleaner. Do not want to leave it on there even to go back in Nates car.

As far as the fealer gauge deal 99.99% of the time all is well. We Do check the Twin Disk setups that way though but I have yet to find one out of spec.

The Biggest thing, and I can not stess this enough, is to NOT let the transmission hang from the disk half way inserted. This bends the center of the disk and will cause a bunch of problems. Cutch not releaseing , clutch sticking on shifts, clutch dragging making it hard to shift and or get in gear along with many other problems. With the wieght of a t56 it is real easy to do this and ruin a clutch before you even start. T5s are more forgiving as they are much lighter...but many time so are there clutches ;)

Good luck guys. call me if you need any thing

Thanks Ellis.

Clutch is in and works like a charm.

sidewayz28
07-21-2008, 02:33 AM
nice!