Dynamometer Results & Comparisons - JPR S2 H/C Package **Part 2** SLP Dyno Results

Well after reading posts on here for the last two weeks about everyone doubting dyno numbers, I took it upon myself to do an independent dyno session. This morning I took the car to SLP in Toms River. They put you in a glassed off room and keep you away from the car. My car put down 456.1rwhp and 406.2ft-lb. SAE corrected with 3 degrees of knock retard across the band on the second pull. Unfortunately Joe wasn't able to be there to see this baby work its magic.

Now I am 100% convinced that JD's dyno is dead on. I am very pleased with the results!!!

I will post this SLP dyno sheet as soon as I can get it scanned.

Thanks again to JPR for everything, this is a kick ass car!

Ron

Are you running an electric water pump on the car? If so.. is it one of Joe's?

Way to go,congrats to JPR and you Ron.That is an impressive set up.

Joe really did his homework on this package and the R&D involved with it.

BTW-this is an automatic not a M6,kick ass numbers.

Awesome numbers! :D But I gotta wonder, what are they going to look like after a convertor and rearend?

I dont think a verter will lower the number at all,if anything,due to it being lighter and LOCKED it may add a few ponies.IMHO.

Thgat is one awsome combo!! Cant wait to see that out at the track

Good luck with it

I dont think a verter will lower the number at all,if anything,due to it being lighter and LOCKED it may add a few ponies.IMHO.



:huh: Was the stock verter not locked on the dyno or something? :confused:

I still think it'll lose a few with a converter. :cool:

Awesome. Congrats!

I dont think a verter will lower the number at all,if anything,due to it being lighter and LOCKED it may add a few ponies.IMHO.



With like a 3500-4K stall? No way, he'll be losing a few for sure. A couple guys have also noted a 27-30RWHP loss going to a 12 bolt with gears.

a 12 bolt takes 30hp to run,holly shit???!!! :)

Congrats bro...
That about sums it up...

The only thing thats gonna hurt u is the converter choice and gear ratio that u said your run. (3.42/3600)

If u want to lay down a 10 Sec pass its gonna need a TCS 4200/4.10's with a 26in ET Drag.

But it'll still run 11.3 all day long with the smaller verter/gears....

Good luck....

so if all of you guys are saying this car will loose lets say 20 rwhp then over 430 true hp through an automatic is awesome. great job Joe i cant wait to see what you come out with next ;)
blk01ws6 congrats on th #'s and thanks for dynoing on an independant dyno to prove to us what kinda power you are making, lots of luck to yah. enjoy :drive:

Very nice #'s. Congrats. JPR has really got a great combination together. :cheers:An independant dyno was not necessary for me to believe the numbers. :cool:


Bruce

Probaly will lose 10-15rwhp through a new convertor, and 20-30rwhp with a 12bolt.

I want to see track times from thing, once you get your new converter? :burn:

Later,
Jordan

20-30 rwhp loss with a 12 bolt? lol It depends on some things I have seen personally a 3 rwhp loss going to a 12-bolt with 4.10s, but may the car got stronger from one dyno to the next since the motor was fairly new.

Nice numbers...

OK....So based on what 2 or 3 different people on this post are saying is that JPR's Shop car with a light weight converter and going from 3.23 to 3.42 gears pulling 456 at the rear with the same exact head and cam package will pull close to 480 at the rear if we put his stock converter and 3.23 gears back into the car???? Hummmm.....Cant wait to see this package on an M6 car. What will the next round of excuses be then.

Oh and I dont remember Ron ever saying anything about running a 12 bolt in the car so why does that issue keep coming up?
Eric

I lost 11RW going to a 12-bolt/4.10 over my 10-bolt 3.73's.
From what I understand Ron's car is only getting 3.42's and no 12-bolt.

IMO he wont lose to much doing that.
But it wont be the best gear for the setup.

With Joe's EWP and a loose verter it'll still put down over 440RWH...

I lost 11RW going to a 12-bolt/4.10 over my 10-bolt 3.73's.
From what I understand Ron's car is only getting 3.42's and no 12-bolt.

IMO he wont lose to much doing that.
But it wont be the best gear for the setup.

With Joe's EWP and a loose verter it'll still put down over 440RWH...





Does the car have one of the new electric water pumps on it now? I thought he was testing one of them? I am very interested in JPR's water pump.

I had no doubt.. Congrats to you and JPR..

"Hummmm.....Cant wait to see this package on an M6 car. What will the next round of excuses be then."

Depending on how everything works out with my bonus in 15 days, that might be me.

It'll be run on a full bolt-on 2001 M6 SS (cutout, FTRA, MTI lid, ASP pulley, Jet Hots, Hooker Y, Hooker cat-back, ported TB, ported MAF, Fernco, Fram filter, !PCV, !FRA, NGK's) with a Spec 3 Ceramic, chrome moly driveshaft, stock 275/17's and a 3.42 10-bolt to begin with.

If I'm doing the math right in my head, it should lay down something North of 470 rwhp on a Dynojet.

Here's some of my math...

Joe = The Man

Camaro SS + 470 rwhp = dead Viper (if I can hook it reasonably).

AWESOME NUMBERS! BUT i do think it is insane to think that this guy will lose 20-30 rwhp with a convertor and moser 12 bolt. i have seen about a 10 rwhp difference when going with 4.10s and HD eaton posi (much less if a locker or spool). also a big convertor that has a higher efficiency shouldnt loose power to the point that people are talking. i wish we could just stop trashing and doubting a better R&D head and cam COMBO with all the boltons. oh well. always haters. Joe's shop car made huge power AND backed it up with some great ET didnt it?

great results from a great hand porter, I wouldnt think it would lose any power going to another converter when both will be locked. the guys at slp,s jaws must have droped after that pull, we all know slp will not do any dyno tricks

Nice to see confirmation. Having met Joe and seen him work at the track with his customer, I know he's into results and not BS. :cool:

Awesome results. Get it to the track and let us know.

PS, do you have any kind of valve reliefs in your pistons?

Grats once again, I just may have to save up the rest of the money to get the flycuts for his cam, what an awesome setup.

PacerX,I hope it all works out for you,would be a kick ass set up for your car.

If most of the performance converters claim 96-97% efficiency locked,is that not better than a stock converter?They are lighter than stock also.Not a big deal but would be nice to know.

If I'm doing the math right in my head, it should lay down something North of 470 rwhp on a Dynojet.

Here's some of my math...

Joe = The Man

Camaro SS + 470 rwhp = dead Viper (if I can hook it reasonably).



Those numbers are solid roller territory if you ask me. Take a look at some of the big bore motors too and see what they are putting down...they are barely more. BTW, Vipers with traction are not easily beaten by a 3.42 10 bolt Camaro. Honestly, its great to see people putting down good numbers, but some of these just dont seem too realistic. HVLD heads+solid roller 346=500+rwhp :huh:

Great To see everything checked out. I have dynoed at JD's as well and now we know his dyno is accurate. Doesnt seem fare that he had to spend extra money to prove to all of us that his chit was legit. Great Work Joe.

awesome set up.
FYI...he's not using electric water pump. pistons were flycut.

you made same HP as previous dyno but with KR; i guess since the motor is breaking in and loosening up, you are now making more power. if that KR wasn't there, 460+?

Great numbers!

Why do you think you are getting the KR? How much timing are you running?

Matt

That is some serious competition for the LG X2 cam package. How much is this package with/without install and tuning???

Mike

Oh yeah hows it sound?

Nobody doubted it wasnt legit?
It was more of a what kinda power will he lose threw a verter/gears kinda response.

I'd like to see the final outcome once the gears and converter go in the car with and without the EWP on the car.

That would be kinda interesting to see what or if he loses anything and how much the pump`was worth.

I personally dont think he's gonna lose much considering he still has 3 degree's of KR to get rid and that'll be worth some Hp.

Looks good to me....