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Found out i have 1 853 head and one 241 head!! How bad is this?

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:44 PM
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Thumbs down Found out i have 1 853 head and one 241 head!! How bad is this?

Well needless to say I'm pissed. I purchased the car awhile back and the motor was very clean. I just happened to be putting in a engine temp sensor when i noticed the left side of my car had a 853 head the passenger side has a 241 I was not informed of this. This car is my Daily driver. Are there any negative effects? Please let me know.
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they arent really to much different. im sure it could throw off your tune some but I cant imagine it would do to much harm. It seems like to me if anything was gonna happen it would have happened by now
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sounds like you need aftermarked heads now. Just go ahead and do a head and cam swap. They way I look at it is if something breaks thats just an excuse to replace it with something better.
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Originally Posted by matt1289
sounds like you need aftermarked heads now. Just go ahead and do a head and cam swap. They way I look at it is if something breaks thats just an excuse to replace it with something better.
lol, thats the way i look at things!!!
Old 07-23-2008, 10:50 PM
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That's interesting..

Originally Posted by matt1289
They way I look at it is if something breaks thats just an excuse to replace it with something better.
Yup.. 3 shredded Built 4L60E's for a good T56..
Old 07-24-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
That's interesting..



Yup.. 3 shredded Built 4L60E's for a good T56..

+1 on that one.
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I doubt that it matters. The heads are so similar, and i wouldn't worry about it.


Unless you have a wife and need an excuse to buy some AFRs (or Trick-flows) then..... 'those heads make the car unreliable and must be replaced immediately. Also, in order for the vehicle to be safe the heads should be occompanied by a cam'


On a more serious note, i would want my heads to match. Not that it really matters, but i would have a hard time sleeping at night. Its like driving to lunch with a burnt out headlight. It shouldn't matter, but for some reason it bugs the hell out of you.
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Time for some AFR's to fix the problem.
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that would bother me till i change the heads
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the car is fine. don't worry about it. nothing is negatively affected. the heads are the same anyway. i would be more concerned about what took place to merit the different head..
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I have one of each also,but my heads have been worked over to be equal.Both were ported/polished,new manley valves,springs retainers,etc. Maybe yours have been done also.853 drivers and 241 pass. We may just have very rare cars,LOL. One reason this could be is when the cars were assembled and the engines put togather. They might have been just in between using or changing heads from one year to the other. I would be interested to know when your car was built.
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what is an 853 head?
Old 07-24-2008, 09:21 PM
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853s r on the 97-98 ls1s right. So do u have two different valve covers then to right?? That would be weird. I'll sell you whichever 853 head u need to match for only $2000 bucks. U want to match right? lol.......
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i am way tooooooo **** to have **** mis matched. I would honestly buy a set of new heads jsut so that they were matching....
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i have 853's on my 00. but as everyone above they are very close just the difference in the way they are cast i believe. the design of the head is the same.
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853's came on 98 and 99 models and the 98's had the perimeter bolts but 99's did not. so he should ahve the same valve covers but the ehads are damn enar identical anyhow so it wouldnt much matter
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No, 806s came on the 98s. 853s came on 99 and I believe early 2000.
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Thanks for the replys fellas. Yea I have been in the LS1 game since 98. I wasn't to worried about it but like some people stated it just bothers the hell out of me that they don't match. Also like some stated I would cam and head this car but its a daily driver. My Vette will get all the big mods. I may just search the classifieds or my just slap some ls6 heads on her.
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The switch from 853 to 241 was made sometime in 2000. My buddy's 00 T/A was built 11/99 and has 853's. My Formula was built 6/00 and has 241's. I am curious as to the build date of the car, with the remote possibility that it could have come from the factory that way. You may have one super-rare car!
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i thought the 241's were a better flowing head than the older ones,,,if that is correct,,wouldnt he be flowing differently in the 2 banks?



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