nitrous daves plate-works as advertised!
09-07-2008, 06:53 PM
#1
nitrous daves plate-works as advertised! long story short i used it on my head and cam motor and on the 150 jets it picked up 145 rwhp and 155 rwtq, then i finally got around to trying it on my 416 on friday and it picked up 205 rwhp and 210 rwtq on the 200 shot. and that was with 4* of timing pulled from the na runs. i will try and upload the dyno graph in the dyno section in the next day or 2. nice product!
09-07-2008, 10:30 PM
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09-07-2008, 10:45 PM
#5
With this much tq we want it a little softer down low, lol. Mine was sprayed around there also, IIRC. I will be moving some of the hit into the 2nd stage to help control my tq as the IRS can't handle that much tq when i hook. it looks like you have at least 600tq in a linear curve and that's going to make for fast car for certain. I would be carefull with to much timing and those numbers, just be safe.
09-07-2008, 10:51 PM
#6
With this much tq we want it a little softer down low, lol. Mine was sprayed around there also, IIRC. I will be moving some of the hit into the 2nd stage to help control my tq as the IRS can't handle that much tq when i hook. it looks like you have at least 600tq in a linear curve and that's going to make for fast car for certain. I would be carefull with to much timing and those numbers, just be safe.
right now we have it at 20 on the n20. 24 n/a. on the dyno it made 0 knock and sounded very clean. we are going to take it for a ride on the street and do a 4th gear pull and data log it to make sure it remains that way with a load on it before i start trying to take it down a track though.
09-08-2008, 10:55 AM
#7
Looks like the a/f is still rich too, careful running it too rich you can lift the ringlands just as easy as you can melt something from it being too lean.
Good pwr gain though, your timing is about as high as I'd go unless you're running good fuel, like the torco 118nos, C16 or c23 If you're on a fuel like that you're probably safe, if this is a pump gas setup, you're in the danger zone IMO.
Good pwr gain though, your timing is about as high as I'd go unless you're running good fuel, like the torco 118nos, C16 or c23 If you're on a fuel like that you're probably safe, if this is a pump gas setup, you're in the danger zone IMO.
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09-09-2008, 12:05 PM
#8
Looks like the a/f is still rich too, careful running it too rich you can lift the ringlands just as easy as you can melt something from it being too lean.
Good pwr gain though, your timing is about as high as I'd go unless you're running good fuel, like the torco 118nos, C16 or c23 If you're on a fuel like that you're probably safe, if this is a pump gas setup, you're in the danger zone IMO.
Good pwr gain though, your timing is about as high as I'd go unless you're running good fuel, like the torco 118nos, C16 or c23 If you're on a fuel like that you're probably safe, if this is a pump gas setup, you're in the danger zone IMO.
im running c16 in the standalone fuel cell and 93 octane in the tank.
09-09-2008, 01:46 PM
#10
I would highly reccommend ditching the 93 in the main tank.
For the cost of putting good fuel in the car, I wouldn't take a chance of having some shitty pump gas possibly take something out.
If it's a race only car, and you have say a 2 gallon cell in the nose you can ditch the stock tank completely, and save yourself about 50 lbs by the time you're done, just run the nitrous system and the EFI off the same tank.
For the cost of putting good fuel in the car, I wouldn't take a chance of having some shitty pump gas possibly take something out.
If it's a race only car, and you have say a 2 gallon cell in the nose you can ditch the stock tank completely, and save yourself about 50 lbs by the time you're done, just run the nitrous system and the EFI off the same tank.
09-09-2008, 02:06 PM
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09-09-2008, 07:01 PM
#13
LS2 bait.. Great numbers...
I have to ask. What lenth lines are you using feeding our plate.. I done a vette install for vette magazine and we seen the same results with the rich spike with our plate using the two ft hoses. On most applications the airfuel hits good and steady which proves our plate is the best solution for making HP with out flow restrictions on the fuel side of the plate...
However I am still stumped by the fuel rich spike on the vette. The tunner said it was something in the torque management or convertser. Something like that.lol BUt now I see it on yours as well so I have to ask..
As for over all airfuel. I personally like the 11.5 to 11.8. With this tune up you have aenough area that if cool night air hit the car and it burned alittle leaner it would not hurt anything...
Every application is different but on most of the cars we tune we start off about 18 degrees totle timming on a 200 shot. There is not alot of power to be made VS the risk of running to much timming.. Watching for Knowck retart can be misleading. The best way to tune it in is to read the plugs. If you look inside the plug at the porcylin you can see if there are early signs of detonation. This would show by having tiny silver specs on the porcylin. This can be seen with a spark plug reader..
It looks like the system made the exact power it is rated to do. I would be very happy with that..
Please send some pics over for our customer page.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/customerCars/help.asp
Thanks
Dave
I have to ask. What lenth lines are you using feeding our plate.. I done a vette install for vette magazine and we seen the same results with the rich spike with our plate using the two ft hoses. On most applications the airfuel hits good and steady which proves our plate is the best solution for making HP with out flow restrictions on the fuel side of the plate...
However I am still stumped by the fuel rich spike on the vette. The tunner said it was something in the torque management or convertser. Something like that.lol BUt now I see it on yours as well so I have to ask..
As for over all airfuel. I personally like the 11.5 to 11.8. With this tune up you have aenough area that if cool night air hit the car and it burned alittle leaner it would not hurt anything...
Every application is different but on most of the cars we tune we start off about 18 degrees totle timming on a 200 shot. There is not alot of power to be made VS the risk of running to much timming.. Watching for Knowck retart can be misleading. The best way to tune it in is to read the plugs. If you look inside the plug at the porcylin you can see if there are early signs of detonation. This would show by having tiny silver specs on the porcylin. This can be seen with a spark plug reader..
It looks like the system made the exact power it is rated to do. I would be very happy with that..
Please send some pics over for our customer page.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/customerCars/help.asp
Thanks
Dave
09-09-2008, 09:42 PM
#14
i ended up with a 35 fuel and 78 n20. fuel presure in the tank is 45 psi. this is a street car, this setup is actually not intended for a race setup but just a little something i wanted for insurance. i will make some track passes with it but i only go 3-4 times a yr.
and dave the plate is hardlined with about 11.5" on the fuel side and 16 on the n2o side. we had started at 16* and ended up leaving it at 20* when we were done. and i forgot to mention but this was done with bottle pressure between 920-930 also. so i have a little room there to get the pressure up a bit and lean it out a little more there also.
and dave the plate is hardlined with about 11.5" on the fuel side and 16 on the n2o side. we had started at 16* and ended up leaving it at 20* when we were done. and i forgot to mention but this was done with bottle pressure between 920-930 also. so i have a little room there to get the pressure up a bit and lean it out a little more there also.
09-10-2008, 04:33 AM
#15
holy **** a 35 nitrous and a 78 fuel, jesus I have mine jetted a little rich (63 nitrous 43 fuel) and I'm running it off the rail not a standalone, so the fuel pressure is probably mroe like 55 psi.
I'd make a track run with a fresh set of plugs and get a read on them, with the jetting you're running I dunno how it's not leaner then that.
I'd make a track run with a fresh set of plugs and get a read on them, with the jetting you're running I dunno how it's not leaner then that.
09-10-2008, 08:06 AM
#16
i ended up with a 35 fuel and 78 n20. fuel presure in the tank is 45 psi. this is a street car, this setup is actually not intended for a race setup but just a little something i wanted for insurance. i will make some track passes with it but i only go 3-4 times a yr.
and dave the plate is hardlined with about 11.5" on the fuel side and 16 on the n2o side. we had started at 16* and ended up leaving it at 20* when we were done. and i forgot to mention but this was done with bottle pressure between 920-930 also. so i have a little room there to get the pressure up a bit and lean it out a little more there also.
and dave the plate is hardlined with about 11.5" on the fuel side and 16 on the n2o side. we had started at 16* and ended up leaving it at 20* when we were done. and i forgot to mention but this was done with bottle pressure between 920-930 also. so i have a little room there to get the pressure up a bit and lean it out a little more there also.
going from 920 psi in the bottle to 1000 psi wont dont much at all to the tune up. The lower you start the run (i run mine at 950) the less bottle drop you will see on the big end.
09-10-2008, 08:10 AM
#17
holy **** a 35 nitrous and a 78 fuel, jesus I have mine jetted a little rich (63 nitrous 43 fuel) and I'm running it off the rail not a standalone, so the fuel pressure is probably mroe like 55 psi.
I'd make a track run with a fresh set of plugs and get a read on them, with the jetting you're running I dunno how it's not leaner then that.
I'd make a track run with a fresh set of plugs and get a read on them, with the jetting you're running I dunno how it's not leaner then that.
Your tune is rich
You need the 78N jet also
